Can creatures relying on darkvision see shadows?


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Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Superscriber; Pathfinder Starfinder Roleplaying Game Subscriber

I'm referring to the monstrous--rather than the mundane--variety of shadows.


Yes.

Darkvision changes how you observe the ambient like conditions. Shadows (monster) is not ambient light conditions, but a creature.


What Samasboy1 said. "Shadow" is just a name for the undead creature; they aren't actually shadows in the absence-of-light sense.


Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Superscriber; Pathfinder Starfinder Roleplaying Game Subscriber

But aren't they made of shadows? And therfore invisible to creatures with darkvision?


Pathfinder Adventure Path Subscriber

Ignoring some logic; does it say that creatures with darkvision can't see shadows (either variety?)


That's reaching back into old school flavor text, where darkvision would not allow you to perceive things which are not actual physical objects. You could not read with darkvision, nor see shadows generally.

There's been a discussion about this already.

http://paizo.com/threads/rzs2prb4?What-can-creatures-with-Darkvision-REALLY -see


"Ignoring some logic; does it say that creatures with darkvision can't see shadows (either variety?)"

Regular shadows won't ever exist in conditions where there's no light, so it hardly matters, does it? :)


Ravingdork wrote:
But aren't they made of shadows?

No, they are corrupted undead souls, filled with negative energy. Not the same thing as "an area where something blocks light" at all.

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