Science of the blade


Pathfinder First Edition General Discussion


I think this ability for the learned duelist is redundant and basically not needed

Science of the Blade (Ex)

At 13th level, a Learned duelist is able to apply his specialized knowledge of anatomy and physiology to his bladework. The duelist can make dirty trick, disarm, and trip combat maneuvers using any one-handed piercing or slashing weapon.

This ability replaces weapon training 3.

Scarab Sages

No, it's incredibly awesome.

Dirty Trick is not normally a weapon based maneuver, meaning it cannot get the benefit of Weapon Focus or Enhancement bonuses. This explicitly allows you to make a Dirty Trick with a weapon, getting all of the bonuses of that weapon.

The disarm and trip portion is redundant though, as anyone can already make disarm and trip maneuvers with any weapon. But Dirty Trick enhancement is golden.


Not sure what's up with disarm and trip. How'd that get past proofing?

My suggested house-erratum is that a learned duelist treats any such weapon as having the disarm and trip properties.


Ok, I suppose the dirty trick part is something...which is bad cause that should be the rule and not the exception but whatever.

It also bothers me that the ability that is supposed to allow the fighter to do something else besides piercing people with pointy stick comes at level 13.


Maybe change it so that he treats any 1-h piercing or slashing weapon as if it had the Trip and Disarm property in addition to the benefit it already gives for Dirty Trick?

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