Confirmation Questions


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I'm currently running "The Confirmation" scenario and have run into a few questions. I've tried looking through the boards, but am still confused.

1: For the chronicle sheet, I cross out any of the items that I didn't pick to be found in the room B4: Undead End, right?

2: My group met with Uori and talked with him, but were unable to maek him anything more than indifferent. Does that mean that they didn't "negotiate" with him so I have to reduce their gold?

3: Finally, since this scenario is a repeatable one. If I run this more than once, do I get GM credit for each time or only the first time I run the scenario?

Sovereign Court 4/5

1) Correct.

2) I think so, but don't quote me on that one.

3) Every time on a different lvl 1 character each time! Ain't that grand?

Grand Lodge 4/5 **** Venture-Captain, California—Sacramento

I thought it was only reduced if they left him unfriendly or hostile. IE if he chases them out of the room and won't let them investigate the shrine.


Okay thanks. The GM credit one was bugging me, been trying to get an answer on that for a while and hadn't gotten any response.

Kinda a follow up on question 1. Does the character that I apply the gm credit to for a particular game, only get the items that the players got or do I get access to all items?

Grand Lodge 3/5

I'm going with the don't quote me on this one, but I've been leaving all items on my GM chronicle sheet as available since as the GM, you get full prestige, even if the players don't get full prestige, I'm assuming you get full rewards, even if the players don't.

Also, on a side note for GM credit, you can apply it ONCE to a 2nd level character and infinite to 1st level characters (following the not more than once per character rule of course).


Alright, so just like if you were playing the scenario. That makes sense, just wanted a second opinion.

Grand Lodge 4/5 **** Venture-Captain, California—Sacramento

You get all items, unless you chose not to have one or more


Just found another question. If the players go and take on room B5 instead of B4, do they get any of the items listed? The book doesn't say that they find anything, but it seems weird that a group wouldn't get any of the items just because they took a different path.

Shadow Lodge 3/5

If you don't visit a room then you don't get the items. They can, however, choose to go back and investigate the other direction after the final fight. I had a group do this once.

Grand Lodge 4/5 **** Venture-Captain, California—Sacramento

That said, they still get the money from the encounter, they just don't get the extra chronicle item access

5/5 5/55/5 ** Venture-Captain, Germany—Hamburg

It's actually part of the Secondary Success condition to visit both areas, so it's assumed that a good Pathfinder goes the extra mile to explore everthying ;)
So feel free to cross all the items off the sheet of they didn't explore that area.


Okay. I remember that exploring both areas was part of the secondary success, but you could still get the secondary success without visiting both (if I remember right). Just seemed weird that they put all the items in one room and didn't even them out a little.

But thank you for the responses.

5/5

*all* of those items aren't in that room. Only a couple of them ever are.

1/5

Enjoyed running this last night - I have a couple of questions:

1.

p15, 1st columns, 2nd complete paragraph wrote:
If the PCs improve his attitude to helpful... he offers them his wand of shiled of faith as a sign of goodwill.
p15, UORI, Combat Gear wrote:
wand of shield of faith (CL 6th, 10 charges),

My players did their best to put Uori at ease and convince him that the Pathfinder Society was not going to put an end to the gillmen's days of pilgrimage. They gave him the cloak of resistance +1. I crossed it off the chronicle sheet. A player called me on that and I replied that yes, it is gone but you should have the option to get a wand of shield of faith instead. It was not on the Chronicle sheet. Intentional? What did I miss?

2. Just to clarify, the Chronicle Sheet for GM Credit: Does the GM get all the items (including all the items from B4)? If not, the GM gets to choose which 2 items from B4 to include on the Chronicle sheet?

Thanks for the clarification. :)

Grand Lodge 4/5 **** Venture-Captain, California—Sacramento

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1. It is supposed to be there, Paizo has been promising an errataed chronicle sheet for months, we are still waiting.

5/5

2. All of them.

1. Hey John... *poke*

Grand Lodge 4/5 5/55/5

Uri Meca wrote:

Enjoyed running this last night - I have a couple of questions:

1.

p15, 1st columns, 2nd complete paragraph wrote:
If the PCs improve his attitude to helpful... he offers them his wand of shiled of faith as a sign of goodwill.
p15, UORI, Combat Gear wrote:
wand of shield of faith (CL 6th, 10 charges),

Uri, you just write it in on the chronicle sheet. The cost is 900gp limit 1.

The Exchange 5/5

Totenpfuhl wrote:
Uri Meca wrote:

Enjoyed running this last night - I have a couple of questions:

1.

p15, 1st columns, 2nd complete paragraph wrote:
If the PCs improve his attitude to helpful... he offers them his wand of shiled of faith as a sign of goodwill.
p15, UORI, Combat Gear wrote:
wand of shield of faith (CL 6th, 10 charges),
Uri, you just write it in on the chronicle sheet. The cost is 900gp limit 1.

I don't think we can just add stuff to the chronicle sheets...

4/5 ****

We cannot.

If there were to be an official clarification we could, but the closest we have is Baird asking John to add it, which is unfortunatly not good enough.

1/5

Thanks for the feedback everyone. :)

To address the conflicting impressions

Totenpfuhl wrote:
Uri, you just write it in on the chronicle sheet. The cost is 900gp limit 1.
Pirate Rob wrote:
We cannot. If there were to be an official clarification we could. ...
FLite wrote:
1.It is supposed to be there, Paizo has been promising an errataed chronicle sheet for months, we are still waiting.

Has Paizo promised an errataed chronicle sheet? Can you point us where that promise was made, FLite? If that's the case, that sounds like an official clarification to me. Rob, the discussion you link in the "We cannot." hypertext seems to be addressing the issue of online folks formatting their own chronicle sheets, not the issue of making transparent corrections on a legit chronicle sheet.

I agree that of course one cannot just be adding things willy-nilly to chronicle sheets. In this instance, though, it struck my players odd, as it did to me, that their altruism is costing them an option when the adventure scripts a trade off and that trade off is not present on the chronicle.

After posting in this thread, I did come across discussion of this topic on another thread where the advice was to just add it to the chronicle as the author has clarified is was a simple omission from the chronicle sheet.
(and here and sort of here too)
And more:

FLite wrote:
Can we get confirmation from John or Mike that the Uori's wand is supposed to be on the sheet?

But I haven't come across that confirmation yet. There was another post in that thread from a GM (Blackbot?) adding it himself to the sheet. So a mix of interpretations there. I'm inclined to email my players to confirm for them that it should be on.

The Exchange 5/5

When I sit down at a table, and a PC produces something non-standard (for example: a wand of shield of faith, CL 6th, with 10 charges), I might ask the player where he/she got it (as I have played almost everything and do not recall seeing one). If they were to then say in a scenario that I had played, it might cause me to ask to see the chronicle... If it had the line written in, it would trouble me. I would be concerned that the judge might have just added something on a whim. Not good in a Organized Play environment. Other judges would assume that the player had just added it on his own, but I tend to trust my players. Thing are not just added to a chronicle, as people make mistakes - even in the example line above the "limit 1" appears to have been dropped... indicating that it is not limited?

Grand Lodge 4/5 **** Venture-Captain, California—Sacramento

I don't have the time or energy to go look, but I thought John Compton said something about it on one of these threads.

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