Does your table have unspoken rules?


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Here unspoken rule refers to something that is not outright banned in the table, but everyone or at least most people have voiced a distaste to something and it's usually frowned upon. People might want to do it, but they usually don't to respect the rest of the table.

Ours is the use of "save or die" effects, both for players and GM. Only once can I remember them being used. Even then no one expected it to work when our Magus won initiative and used Phantasmal Killer on one of the bosses. The saves weren't too bad and this boss had good saves on both fort and will. And he rolled incredibly bad for both of them, dying instantly. That was the most anticlimactic fight we had, which really got us all to laugh.

I'd also say summoners are banned, but at least 2 GMs have outright banned them from their games (we tend to rotate who is the GM).


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No Evil or extremely disruptive characters.


Don't snottily quote the rules, Counselor.


Delivered-Food-and-South-Park break once per session.


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Don't be a jerk.

While this is a general life rule, some of the corollaries this spawns for our table are:

-Don't significantly out-optimize the rest of the party/GM.

-Don't significantly under-optimize relative to the rest of the party/GM.

-If someone else brings snacks for the table, don't hoard them to yourself.

-Don't keep arguing when people are getting bored, or upset.

-Don't try to control other people's characters, or boggart their scene.


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-Don't try to control other people's characters, or boggart their scene.

THIS :-)


Most of ours are non-mechanic, and some are non-game:
Don't cheese out your character
Don't derail the plot without good reason ('good reason' here means it must act as an extension to the plot, not change it for everyone)
Be part of the team
Don't wake the children
Don't turn up late
Be a good guest at the table
Respect the GM

[joke] I break a few of these every so often, but justified as I'm the most important player ;-) [/joke]

Slightly off-topic:
Rules I wish we had:
Get on with the round
Don't tell us how powerful your character is
Work out your modifiers ahead of the roll
Don't read the module

Yes, I break some of these occasionally as well!


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Be a decent houseguest, and respect the host's boundaries, auch as:

  • Don't open the host's refrigerator/cupboard/pantry without asking first.
  • Stay out of the non-public areas of the house.
  • Don't snoop in the bathroom medicine cabinet.
  • Don't use foul language around children
  • Be respectful of non-gamers in the house
  • Etc. These should be common sense.

On smoking:

  • Ask before lighting up in the house, and don't do it if your host asks you not to.
  • Keep your cigarette breaks short.
  • Don't throw your butts in the flowerbed.

Don't touch other players' dice without asking first.

Don't bogart the snacks/drinks-- especially if you don't bring any to share.

If there's alcohol, don't get sloppy.

Have your stats in order so you don't have to re-calculate everything every time it's your turn.

If the GM is trying to set a mood, please play along. (i.e. If the GM is trying to set up a tragic/scary/disturbing scene, don't crack jokes or quote Monty Python.)

Grand Lodge

Haladir wrote:


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  • Don't open the host's refrigerator/cupboard/panty without asking first.
  • Yes...keep out of the host's knickers!


    There... I fixed it!

    Regarding a typo I made but managed to correct before I hit "post"...

    Hopefully, guests would stay out of the pubic areas of the house... unless it was that lind of party.


    "Panty" and "pubic," eh, Haladir?

    Someone's either getting too much ... or not enough.


    1.Don't be a jerk.

    2.Try not to over-optimize. Highly effective characters can happen all on their own, but just be careful not to go out of your way to over-specialize and crush the rest of the table in the process.

    Sovereign Court

    Bogart things? Captain?


    Don't talk about fight club.


    We try to stay within a certain level of effectiveness. We had a bunch of unoptimized characters, and a new player joined with an archer paladin, doing more damage than the four of the rest of us put together. Nobody ever said anything, but it was probably pretty obvious how we felt about it, because after the second session he came back with a character more in line with what everyone else had. We've been able to keep it pretty even since then, without anyone making a rule.


    Or basically everything Billygoat said, minus the snacks part.

    Sovereign Court

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    GM(me) prefers bourbon over whisky but all offerings of spirits are apreciated.


    Hama wrote:
    Bogart things? Captain?

    Abscond, run off with, steal, borrow in excess of fairness.


    Greil9 wrote:
    Does your table have unspoken rules?

    My table doesn't speak; it's just a table. If it has rules, they're definielty unspoken...

    But more seriously, there was kind of an unspoken rule with my old group that nastiness will be answered with nastiness. If the group started to pull dirty moves and nasty tricks, monsters would suddenly become equally nasty.


    We have three when playing at my place (so pretty much every game). First one is more of a joke than anything else, second and third are what I'd consider to be rules of common courtesy whenever you're visiting anyone, whether it's for gaming or not.

    The first one just started after the correlation was noticed, the second came into being when it became obvious that I was less than happy with the situation, and the third has been in place right from the start.

    Rule 1: Chocolate milk (ideally Big M Real Kakao Double Choc)shall be provided for Tinkergoth, lest he become a vengeful GM

    Reasoning:
    This started when the players noticed a correlation between particularly gruelling sessions and whether or not I'd had my chocolate milk fix for the night. Pretty sure it was just a case of the False Cause Fallacy in play, but they don't like to take chances.

    Rule 2: Thou shall not raid Tinkergoth's selection of fine single malt Scotch without invitation, or any of the other top shelf spirits/the premium ciders. The rest of the booze is fair game, within reason

    Reasoning:
    This was implemented when I found out that one of the guys had done significant damage to my 16 year old Lagavulin and my quarter-cask Laphroaig in a single evening.

    Rule 3: Don't be a twit

    Reasoning:
    Means exactly what you think it does. Covers all jerkish behaviour in and out of game

    EDIT: Rule 3 has been modified. Because apparently changing one of the letters to an a in that word makes it offensive. Sometimes I have to laugh at the words that get auto-censored on here.


    Sexual content strictly PG13. Liasons with NPCs are fine, but it will be "fade to black". No descriptive mid-coitus Con rolls.

    Sovereign Court

    No third person.


    If a significant other calls a player or gm away for some "personal" time there shall be no complaints.

    Sovereign Court

    haruhiko88 wrote:
    If a significant other calls a player or gm away for some "personal" time there shall be no complaints.

    Really? Um, no. There shall be many complaints.


    Hama wrote:
    haruhiko88 wrote:
    If a significant other calls a player or gm away for some "personal" time there shall be no complaints.
    Really? Um, no. There shall be many complaints.

    Don't be a cock-blocker bro.


    Maybe in your group but in my group the usual response from players or the gm is a witty cheer or backhanded compliment, followed by who wants to sub him in for stats (if it's mid combat, if it's not combat we just say they go somewhere for their profession or research or whatever). After all the player or gm isn't complaining.

    Sovereign Court

    If I am not going to go away for some personal time, because I made a commitment to my friends, neither shall they. Or they can not come that day.


    Given that I nearly pulled the plug on two groups entirely when it (sadly very briefly) looked like I was going to start spending almost every weekend riding to Sydney to spend time with a special someone, and my the players reactions all fell into the "relationships come first" camp, withne guy phrasing it by just uttering a bunch of cheers, wolfwhistles, repeated use of the phrase "hubba hubba" and accompanying physical gestures, I'm going to say my group is in agreement with haruhiko88 on this one.


    Not so much an unwritten rule, but I only play RPGs every other weekend at the moment. My wife started working as a traveling consultant a year-and-a-half ago, and now she is only home from when her plane lands on Friday afternoon, to when it takes off Monday morning... Every other weekend. So... "No gaming when Hal's wife is home."

    Freud might say this situation would explain my earlier typos...


    Hama wrote:
    Bogart things? Captain?

    bogart (v.t.): Take more than your fair share of something consumable, especially when referring to food, alcohol, cigarettes, or illicit drugs; synonymous to "hog."

    Example: "Dude! Don't bogart the Cheetos!"

    The word is presumably a reference to the actor Humphrey Bogart, due to the perception that his film characters tend to drink and smoke excessively.


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    Chubbs McGee - is not allowed to play an Aboleth paladin called Pete.
    People playing halflings, gnomes, kender, drow, anthropomorphic animals and other forms of cheese laden munchkinism will have the "Mickey taken"at every opportune moment.
    Don't get drunk.
    Don't swear if the kids are awake.
    The DM can be bribed with chocolate and alcohol.
    It's just a game - have fun!!!!!

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    Thou shalt not go astray from the AP and force the GM to improvise, lest he make it painful for thee.


    Greil9 wrote:

    Here unspoken rule refers to something that is not outright banned in the table, but everyone or at least most people have voiced a distaste to something and it's usually frowned upon. People might want to do it, but they usually don't to respect the rest of the table.

    Ours is the use of "save or die" effects, both for players and GM. Only once can I remember them being used. Even then no one expected it to work when our Magus won initiative and used Phantasmal Killer on one of the bosses. The saves weren't too bad and this boss had good saves on both fort and will. And he rolled incredibly bad for both of them, dying instantly. That was the most anticlimactic fight we had, which really got us all to laugh.

    I'd also say summoners are banned, but at least 2 GMs have outright banned them from their games (we tend to rotate who is the GM).

    All of our rules are unspoken.

    We communicate solely by smoke signal and interpretive dance.


    Hama wrote:
    If I am not going to go away for some personal time, because I made a commitment to my friends, neither shall they. Or they can not come that day.

    Gaming before sex Hama? Seriously? You must just be a joy to hang around with. :D


    PsychoticWarrior wrote:

    All of our rules are unspoken.

    We communicate solely by smoke signal and interpretive dance.

    I though you were about to say that all of your rules are unspoken; they're all written in the core book...


    The game ticking along smoothly is more important than RAW. So is common sense.


    Tinkergoth wrote:

    Rule 2: Thou shall not raid Tinkergoth's selection of fine single malt Scotch without invitation, or any of the other top shelf spirits/the premium ciders. The rest of the booze is fair game, within reason

    Spoiler:
    This was implemented when I found out that one of the guys had done significant damage to my 16 year old Lagavulin and my quarter-cask Laphroaig in a single evening.

    And in what fashion did you justly terminate this miscreant?

    Spoiler:
    Hell, I don't even drink much, but if someone invaded my private, high-end stash, the beating would be lengthy and severe.


    PsychoticWarrior wrote:
    Hama wrote:
    If I am not going to go away for some personal time, because I made a commitment to my friends, neither shall they. Or they can not come that day.
    Gaming before sex Hama? Seriously? You must just be a joy to hang around with. :D

    I don't question his honor ... just his good sense. :)


    PsychoticWarrior wrote:

    All of our rules are unspoken.

    We communicate solely by smoke signal and interpretive dance.

    You'd be amazed at how eloquent the Hokey Pokey can be.

    Sovereign Court

    PsychoticWarrior wrote:
    Hama wrote:
    If I am not going to go away for some personal time, because I made a commitment to my friends, neither shall they. Or they can not come that day.
    Gaming before sex Hama? Seriously? You must just be a joy to hang around with. :D

    So, we're in the middle of a session and my gf texts me something along the lines of "I'm horny, come home".

    Not going home. We can have sex any other day of the week. After the session or before the session. Those several hours are devoted to my friends. If she doesn't like that, that's her problem.
    Oh and I told her so.


    Hama wrote:
    PsychoticWarrior wrote:
    Hama wrote:
    If I am not going to go away for some personal time, because I made a commitment to my friends, neither shall they. Or they can not come that day.
    Gaming before sex Hama? Seriously? You must just be a joy to hang around with. :D

    So, we're in the middle of a session and my gf texts me something along the lines of "I'm horny, come home".

    Not going home. We can have sex any other day of the week. After the session or before the session. Those several hours are devoted to my friends. If she doesn't like that, that's her problem.
    Oh and I told her so.

    You have an iron will ... and, arguably, an even harder head. ;)

    Still, I do admire your principles.

    Sovereign Court

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    Hama wrote:
    PsychoticWarrior wrote:
    Hama wrote:
    If I am not going to go away for some personal time, because I made a commitment to my friends, neither shall they. Or they can not come that day.
    Gaming before sex Hama? Seriously? You must just be a joy to hang around with. :D

    So, we're in the middle of a session and my gf texts me something along the lines of "I'm horny, come home".

    Not going home. We can have sex any other day of the week. After the session or before the session. Those several hours are devoted to my friends. If she doesn't like that, that's her problem.
    Oh and I told her so.

    Actually my reply would be "sure hit the club and bring another girl home. Ill be there in a few hours" :)

    Liberty's Edge

    I'm with Hama on this one, personally. And not just for gaming, but for any commitment I make.


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    PsychoticWarrior wrote:
    Hama wrote:
    If I am not going to go away for some personal time, because I made a commitment to my friends, neither shall they. Or they can not come that day.
    Gaming before sex Hama? Seriously? You must just be a joy to hang around with. :D

    I'm with Hama on this one.

    The fact that I place everything before sex as an asexual person not-withstanding, I will take offense at someone leaving mid-game for anything other than an emergency or feeling too ill/tired to continue, sex included in that.

    Shadow Lodge

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    Sex is just not all that. Sorry guys. Some of us aren't ruled by hormones.


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    RAI trumps RAW.

    GM trumps players.

    GM allows most things as long as she gets to read them before approving. Don't try take advantage of that.


    Jaelithe wrote:
    Tinkergoth wrote:

    Rule 2: Thou shall not raid Tinkergoth's selection of fine single malt Scotch without invitation, or any of the other top shelf spirits/the premium ciders. The rest of the booze is fair game, within reason

    ** spoiler omitted **

    And in what fashion did you justly terminate this miscreant?

    ** spoiler omitted **

    Nah, no beatings. Can't say I wasn't tempted, but I'm not by nature a violent person. An angry person, yes. Violent, no.

    Spoiler:
    I did briefly consider making him run a gauntlet of wet towel whippings. In the end though I just went with some very meaningful glances as a couple of far emptier than they should have been bottles sitting on the table as the group walked in one night. Replacements showed up a couple of weeks later, so I left it at that.


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    TOZ wrote:
    Sex is just not all that. Sorry guys. Some of us aren't ruled by hormones.

    I wouldn't say I'm ruled by hormones. Spoilering this since we're kind of getting off topic here:

    Spoiler:
    I guess some of the others are specifically talking about sex, but as I said, with my group the attitude is more "relationships take priority" (wolf whistling, pelvic thrusting player being the possible exception). I guess now and then that might involve one of the guys skiving off for a quickie, with me it's more likely to be a case of my having met someone that I'm interested in, and needing to cancel some sessions if Saturday night is the only night I can arrange at the time to woo them.

    I think the rest of my group kind of understands that after spending four years dealing with the issues from my last relationship, it's a positive thing that I'm looking at dating again, so they don't complain. After all, we're all friends outside of the gaming group as well, and want each other to be happy. The game is just a convenient excuse to get us together to hang out.


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    Aren't you violating the unspoken rules by speaking about them?

    Silver Crusade

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    When the GM uses his teacher voice, that means its time to stop talking and listen.

    Laptops, tablets, and mobile phones are fine at the table as game aids, but please don't go browsing websites other than the d20pfsrd.com unless the GM needs you to jump on facebook so he can send you a PM during the game.

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