Maybe that's one of Grickin's Darkwing Duck-style boasts.
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Given the MVP thing, they might just start with clerics picking an alignment for their core which determines which alignment-specific spells they get, what type of energy channelling they start with, etc. Then over time they can add the trappings and specialized skills for various gods when that becomes a crowdforging priority.
I see no reason for a wizard to engage in god-bothering, so 'none of the above' (or below) for me. Beings that powerful should be able to take care of themselves, so I'm only concerned with what mortals must deal with. Maybe I'll hold some philosophical affinity for what Aroden represented, but one can hardly call that 'worship'.
If I make a ranger at some point for the DT, I might go with the Green Faith style of pantheism, if I pick up some druid-lite spells. People are a part of nature, so it doesn't need personification.
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One thing I think that could be cool is to allow people chosing a faith and this faith giving them a bonus and a penalty in different stats and/or skills. For example: a deity that favours battle giving a bonus to some martial skill but a penalty in a social skill.
If you choose to worship no deity no change will occur. Of course it would be implemented further in the game and not for EE.
Just an idea that came up in my mind.
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One thing I think that could be cool is to allow people chosing a faith and this faith giving them a bonus and a penalty in different stats and/or skills. For example: a deity that favours battle giving a bonus to some martial skill but a penalty in a social skill.
If you choose to worship no deity no change will occur. Of course it would be implemented further in the game and not for EE.
Just an idea that came up in my mind.
Ehhh, just seems like a checkbox on your character's sheet. What I mean is, every martial character will worship the martial god, every wizard character will worship the wizard god, every aristocrat will worship the socialite god...
The only ones affected are roleplayers (who may be inferior in their chosen skills because their god's bonuses and penalties don't match up) and people who play "jack-of-all-trade" characters, who would be the only martial characters that care about their social skills taking a hit (to use your example). I'd just as soon not have bonuses and penalties for non-clerical worship, unless a more robust system is developed around it.
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One thing I think that could be cool is to allow people chosing a faith and this faith giving them a bonus and a penalty in different stats and/or skills. For example: a deity that favours battle giving a bonus to some martial skill but a penalty in a social skill.
If you choose to worship no deity no change will occur. Of course it would be implemented further in the game and not for EE.
Just an idea that came up in my mind.
Ehhh, just seems like a checkbox on your character's sheet. What I mean is, every martial character will worship the martial god, every wizard character will worship the wizard god, every aristocrat will worship the socialite god...
This is indeed a problem I forgot to weight.
Maybe only if the bonus/penalties are not so foccused and impactating (just ones that add some flavour without affecting combat, diplomacy etc) it could work.
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There was discussion of limiting initial deities to nine. There is discussion here. But where that list came from in the blog, I do not know. It is harder to search now that it is no longer available as a single page.
Stephen Cheney ticked off the nine starting deities in a video presentation about 8 months ago...although I don't recall which one or where. I think the first of the "sit down with the developers" videos.
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Which one is Golgotha?
The link that Gedichtewicht shared is them, but I think they're currently planning to focus on necromancy and military power, probably as LE, so an Urgathoan with your goals may fit in well there.
Since success in PFO will depend heavily upon community membership, I'd encourage anyone to check out groups which align with their interests so they don't have to scramble to figure out what the various groups are like whenever chartered companies and settlements officially become available. Cards on table: Golgotha is now a Pax division, and I'm also a Pax member (but of the Aeternum division) so take my suggestion as you will. Nihimon has collected a list of introductory/recruiting threads, so you can use that to check out other groups to see if they;re compatible with your goals.
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Sarenrae (pronounced SAER-en-ray[1]) teaches temperance and patience in all things. Compassion and peace are her greatest virtues, and if enemies of the faith can be redeemed, they should be. Yet there are those who have no interest in redemption, who glory in slaughter and death. From the remorseless evil of the undead and fiends to the cruelties born in the hearts of mortals, Sarenrae's doctrines preach swift justice delivered by the scimitar's edge.
No, I think this follower has just the right amount of wrath.
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Sarenrae (pronounced SAER-en-ray[1]) teaches temperance and patience in all things. Compassion and peace are her greatest virtues, and if enemies of the faith can be redeemed, they should be. Yet there are those who have no interest in redemption, who glory in slaughter and death. From the remorseless evil of the undead and fiends to the cruelties born in the hearts of mortals, Sarenrae's doctrines preach swift justice delivered by the scimitar's edge.
No, I think this follower has just the right amount of wrath.
Sweet redemption!
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Sarenrae (pronounced SAER-en-ray[1]) teaches temperance and patience in all things. Compassion and peace are her greatest virtues, and if enemies of the faith can be redeemed, they should be. Yet there are those who have no interest in redemption, who glory in slaughter and death. From the remorseless evil of the undead and fiends to the cruelties born in the hearts of mortals, Sarenrae's doctrines preach swift justice delivered by the scimitar's edge.
No, I think this follower has just the right amount of wrath.
I for one am glad that the followers of Lamashtu and Sarenrae take to the slaying of one another! Let us sit back for a while, let them play this out amongst one another, and then the heavy hammer of Law can sweep in to make right out of what is left.
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Sarenrae (pronounced SAER-en-ray[1]) teaches temperance and patience in all things. Compassion and peace are her greatest virtues, and if enemies of the faith can be redeemed, they should be. Yet there are those who have no interest in redemption, who glory in slaughter and death. From the remorseless evil of the undead and fiends to the cruelties born in the hearts of mortals, Sarenrae's doctrines preach swift justice delivered by the scimitar's edge.
No, I think this follower has just the right amount of wrath.
And I think you have both failed your god. If either of you had truely believed in patience, compassion and redemption, perhaps you'd understand that not all things are black and white. Lamashtu is a demon yes, a mother of monsters, the most powerful being ever to rise from the abyss. She is also a holy mother, a symbol of fertility and life. She does not teach her faithful to kill, but to live. To raise our young strong and according to her teachings. She is also a fierce enemy of the demon lord Pazuzu, Rovagug and the foul abomination urgathoa and her undead spawn. Perhaps with us, you could have found a ally against such dark forces. Instead you chose to raise your sword in righteous ignorance. But then that has always been the way of your kind.
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And I think you have both failed your god. If either of you had truely believed in patience, compassion and redemption, perhaps you'd understand that not all things are black and white. Lamashtu is a demon yes, a mother of monsters, the most powerful being ever to rise from the abyss. She is also a holy mother, a symbol of fertility and life. She does not teach her faithful to kill, but to live. To raise our young strong and according to her teachings. She is also a fierce enemy of the demon lord Pazuzu, Rovagug and the foul abomination urgathoa and her undead spawn. Perhaps with us, you could have found a ally against such dark forces. Instead you chose to raise your sword in righteous ignorance. But then that has always been the way of your kind.Sarenrae (pronounced SAER-en-ray[1]) teaches temperance and patience in all things. Compassion and peace are her greatest virtues, and if enemies of the faith can be redeemed, they should be. Yet there are those who have no interest in redemption, who glory in slaughter and death. From the remorseless evil of the undead and fiends to the cruelties born in the hearts of mortals, Sarenrae's doctrines preach swift justice delivered by the scimitar's edge.
No, I think this follower has just the right amount of wrath.
I'm sorry, I couldn't see your olive branch over the sounds of the horrendously deformed birth your Goddess visited upon...
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I'm sorry, I couldn't see your olive branch over the sounds of the horrendously deformed birth your Goddess visited upon...
** spoiler omitted ** Make no mistake, she would happily inflict painful and demonic mutation upon everyone if given the chance. Iomedae will swiftly bring justice to those so ready to deprive it to the unborn.
What you call mutation, I call ascension! We have all been cursed upon birth with the weakness of man. But Lamashtu is here to set us free! Under her loving guidance you can grow strong, she can rid you of your humanity, of all that which makes you weak and replace it with strength.
Do no not fear change, young one. Embrace it!
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The cosmic markings upon your soul will allow us to see whether you speak honeyed words that twist the truth of your goddess or not. Even the gods themselves are not free from the stains that their deeds leave upon their souls.
I require 9 bards and wizards with the ability to perceive alignment to good and evil, law and chaos, and the absence thereof to each to look upon this figure! If naught the 9 can see your soul, then you must be using trickery for fear of that which will be discovered.
And whereupon have I ever claimed Sarenrae, however respectful a choice, to be where I place my faith?
Sarenrae without a doubt, with a smattering of Ra, Horus and Osiris
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Mbando will worship Peace Through Vigilance.
Peace Through Vigilance: This celestial young gold dragon never sits still for more than a moment, preferring to dart and coil about in anticipation of where he might be needed next, and rarely lets his summoner get a word in edgewise. He likes to take charge in situations where his strength and magic are especially suited for a task. He refers to his patron as “Mother Iomedae,” leading some to believe that he is the offspring of the Inheritor and Apsu, god of the good dragons. He prizes gems and is especially friendly toward mortals who offer them for his services.
Given that he will not likely be in game mechanically, Mbando will also honor and revere Iomedae.
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I'm no divine caster so I'm going old school and worshiping Aroden.
The guy was so damned cool when flipping through the pages of the book that he is what sold me on Golarion as a setting. I almost rage quit when I later found out that they had killed off the coolest god in the setting. I'm not entirely sure how they justify that move.
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I'm no divine caster so I'm going old school and worshiping Aroden.
The guy was so damned cool when flipping through the pages of the book that he is what sold me on Golarion as a setting. I almost rage quit when I later found out that they had killed off the coolest god in the setting. I'm not entirely sure how they justify that move.
Aroden, as the god of humanity, may have realized that if we're ever to improve ethically and achieve some kind of heaven, we'll have to build it ourselves.