I have searched and could not find if what I am doing is correct or not. In my case it has to do with Monk Flurry of Blows but I will also give an example with the extra attacks from BAB.
As we all know, Power Attack is -1atk/+2dmg increasing the values at each BAB multiple of 4. So a BAB of 4 means -2atk/+4dmg. What I want to know is how to apply the numbers from Power Attack. One interpretation is "BAB of Class Level" the other is "BAB of Melee Attack being made".
(Remember, the FAQ states that a monk uses his improved BAB when using Power Attack. Improved BAB of a Monk is that they use their Level as BAB when doing the Flurry of Blows)
Lets start with a Level 6 Monk:
BAB: 4
FOB: 4/4/-1
Using a single melee attack I know how to apply Power Attack. The BAB is 4 so that means if I use PA then it would be -2atk/+4dmg.
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What I am wondering is if the FoB becomes:
Attack = 2/2/-2
Damage = 4/4/2
Because "bab" of first 2 melee attacks is 4 but "bab" of last melee attack is -1, the first 2 lose 2atk gain 4dmg but the last one only loses 1atk and gains 2dmg.
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The other possible set is because the Improved BAB used in Fob is the Monk Level which is 6. This means FOB would look like this:
Attack = 2/2/-3
Damage = 4/4/4
All melee attacks lose 2atk and gain 4dmg.
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By the Same logic as above:
When any class gets to BAB 6/1, does that mean Power Attack is handled like:
Attack = 4/0
Damage = 4/2
or
Attack = 4/-1
Damage = 4/4
Please let me know if this has been answered and where but I could not find the answer.
I think you're making this more complicated than it actually is.
Monks have medium BAB, you calculate Power Attack based off that, regardless of whether or not they are flurrying.
The damage never scales down on iterative attacks. Your BAB is whatever your highest attack is at, and that is the number that you apply to all of your attacks.
Flurry of Blows (Ex): Starting at 1st level, a monk can make a flurry of blows as a full-attack action. When doing so he may make one additional attack using any combination of unarmed strikes
or attacks with a special monk weapon (kama, nunchaku, quarterstaff, sai,shuriken, and siangham) as if using the Two-Weapon Fighting feat (even if the monk does not meet the prerequisites for the feat). For the purpose of these attacks, the monk’s base attack bonus from his monk class levels is equal to his monk level. For all other purposes, such as qualifying for a feat or a prestige class, the monk uses his normal base attack bonus.At 8th level, the monk can make two additional attacks when he uses flurry of blows, as if using Improved Two-Weapon Fighting (even if the monk does not meet the prerequisites for the feat).
At 15th level, the monk can make three additional attacks using flurry of blows, as if using Greater Two-Weapon Fighting (even if the monk does not meet the prerequisites for the feat).
A monk applies his full Strength bonus to his damage rolls for all successful attacks made with flurry of blows, whether the attacks are made with an off-hand or with a weapon wielded in both hands. A monk may substitute disarm, sunder, and trip combat maneuvers for unarmed attacks as part of a flurry of blows. A monk cannot use any weapon other than an unarmed strike or a special monk weapon as part of a flurry of blows. A monk with natural weapons cannot use such weapons as part of a flurry of blows, nor can he make natural attacks in addition to his flurry of blows attacks.
Power Attack (Combat)
You can make exceptionally deadly melee attacks by sacrificing accuracy for strength.
Prerequisites: Str 13, base attack bonus +1.
Benefit: You can choose to take a –1 penalty on all melee attack rolls and combat maneuver checks to gain a +2 bonus on all melee damage rolls. This bonus to damage is increased by half (+50%) if you are making an attack with a two-handed weapon, a one handed weapon using two hands, or a primary natural weapon that adds 1-1/2 times your Strength modifier on damage rolls. This bonus to damage is halved (–50%) if you are making an attack with an off-hand weapon or secondary natural weapon. When your base attack bonus reaches +4, and every 4 points thereafter, the penalty increases by –1 and the bonus to damage increases by +2. You must choose to use this feat before making an attack roll, and its effects last until your next turn. The bonus damage does not apply to touch attacks or effects that do not deal hit point damage.
Now, I could see it being argued that Monk Level = BAB when using FOB as it states it in the CRB (so a level 4 Monk would qualify for -2/+4), but I think the text in the PA description is clear enough to nullify it, IMO.
Power Attack works off your BaB at the time of making the attack. Once you hit 4/8/12/16/20 BaB you're locked in.
Flurry is the only ability that actually raises a character's BaB, and it interacts the same way. An 8th level Monk has a -2/+4 Power Attack when not Flurrying, and a -3/+6 Power Attack when Flurrying.
Flurry is the only ability that actually raises a character's BaB, and it interacts the same way.
Until the Warpriest comes out.
Flurry is the only ability that actually raises a character's BaB
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You gain a +4 enhancement bonus to Strength, Dexterity, and Constitution, a +4 natural armor bonus to AC, a +5 competence bonus on Fortitude saves, and proficiency with all simple and martial weapons. Your base attack bonus equals your character level (which may give you multiple attacks).
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I think I was REALLY overthinking it. The responses here showed me the 2 places where I was confusing myself.
First:
I didn't look close enough at what Flurry and the additional Attacks really are. The additional attacks are not "attacks with a different BAB value" they are "additional attacks, same BAB, with a penalty".
(me getting too detailed)
Flurry is actually (Lvl-2)/(Lvl-2)/(Lvl-5-2) resulting in 4/4/-1 for the 6th level monk.
and
Attack is actually (BAB)/(BAB-5) when your BAB reaches 6/1
Second:
Answer is actually right in the Power Attack description:
You can choose to take a –1 penalty on all melee attack rolls and combat maneuver checks to gain a +2 bonus on all melee damage rolls
"All means all, any means any" is usually the way to interpret these things. So ALL of the attacks are made with the same penalty/buff.
(me getting too detailed, again)
Power Attack Flurry is actually (Lvl-2-2)/(Lvl-2-2)/(Lvl-5-2-2) resulting in 2/2/-3 because of using the monk level as the BAB. At level 8 of course the penalty/buff would change for the monk using Flurry.
and
Power Attack is actually (BAB-2)/(BAB-5-2) resulting in 4/-1. And when BAB reaches 8 of course the penalty/buff would change for that attack.
Thank you all for the help. I have always found great, detailed answers when reading this board. Glad that was true when I asked a question too.