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As debated Here there appears to be two camps regarding this.
A) The Paladin ability Detect Evil takes a Standard Action to activate. After activation you may then use a move action to concentrate on a single target to shortcut 3 rounds worth of concentration regarding that target.
B) The Paladin ability Detect Evil takes either a Standard Action to activate as the spell OR a Move action to concentrate on a single target to gain 3 rounds worth of Detect Evil information.
So which are you? Please vote below by favoriting your choice.
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A) You must first use a standard action before you can use a move action to concentrate on a single target.
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B) You do not need to first use a standard action to use the move action version of detect evil.
The way it is intended, A is correct.
Nawtyit, that is not the question. The question is asking how many people use A vs how many use B. For discussion regarding which way is correct please see the rules thread I linked in the first post.
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We use:
C) You can use a Move action to concentrate on a single target to gain 3 rounds worth of Detect Evil information.
As in you can only use it that way, not like normal detect evil.
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Most groups I've played with also use C.
Move action to get 3 rounds of info on a single target. No other use of the power.
Interesting. Usually just have the paladin spend a move action.
We use:
C) You can use a Move action to concentrate on a single target to gain 3 rounds worth of Detect Evil information.
As in you can only use it that way, not like normal detect evil.
Most groups I've played with also use C.
Move action to get 3 rounds of info on a single target. No other use of the power.
That's funny. I'm pretty firmly in the "B" camp. But, my last paladin got far and away the most use out of the primary SLA version. I wouldn't want the power without the original use ability.
We use:
C) You can use a Move action to concentrate on a single target to gain 3 rounds worth of Detect Evil information.
As in you can only use it that way, not like normal detect evil.That's funny. I'm pretty firmly in the "B" camp. But, my last paladin got far and away the most use out of the primary SLA version. I wouldn't want the power without the original use ability.
Most groups I've played with also use C.
Move action to get 3 rounds of info on a single target. No other use of the power.
Had little to do with what I wanted. My GM told me that it works this way and I never bothers chacking it. I always considered it much weaker than the spell but on the other hand it was faster and at will.
B) You do not need to first use a standard action to use the move action version of detect evil.
For whatever reason the board will not let me Favorite this (gives an error) so I am replying.
Our table uses this: The Standard Action version is like what any other Detect Evil at will is OR you can use the move action version for max info from one target instead. Your choice when used.
And yes you can use both in one round.
I use:
D)A Paladin can use Detect Evil as the spell or could use a Move action to gain 3 rounds worth of Detect Evil Information.This makes the most sense to me as because the ability states the Paladin can do two different things in it. "A Paladin can use Detect Evil, as the Spell." and "A Paladin can, as a Move action..."
You are in the "B" group, then. That is what it says.
Im in A group.
For those using "C" (there is only the move action version and the Standard action version does not exist), thank you for posting your house rule. :)
Regarding A and B, it appears (at least initially) the numbers are clearly in the Standard and Move action versions are separate versions of the ability camp (B).
For those using "C" (there is only the move action version and the Standard action version does not exist), thank you for posting your house rule. :)
Regarding A and B, it appears (at least initially) the numbers are clearly in the Standard and Move action versions are separate versions of the ability camp (B).
You made it very clear that you wanted to know what people actually use, not what is right. One of your options given above is a houserule, too. But you stated that you didn't want to discuss this. So why is it now relevant that C is a houserule when it is not relevant which of A and B is a houserule?
Umbranus, I'm not sure why you are reacting negatively when I said thank you.
Umbranus, I'm not sure why you are reacting negatively when I said thank you.
Sorry, my sarcasm detector seems to be broken. It pinged, it seems, without cause.
@Billygoat: Thanks I could not have explained it as good. At least not in English.
*low whistle* 31 to 4. I really did not anticipate that great a disparity. Not, of course, to assume this is scientific and within some quantifiable margin of error. But, that is an astonishing variance. I really expected something closer to 50/50...
Does that mean that Team B wins the Internet?
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I use it as B. So that the Paladin can use his first round to Detect Evil on his target (move), Smite Evil on said target if it pings as Evil (free) and attack (standard).
Rather than spend an entire round assessing whether his target is valid for his Smite while the rest of the participants start fighting for their lives.
Good thread, I like to see other folks' thoughts on these things. 1 vote for A.
For those voting with text, please favorite the appropriate post for an accurate count.
Regarding my perceived sarcasm or condescension, unfortunately tone does not carry well through text and can often be misinterpreted. That is why I try to assume people are neutral in tone when using text. :)