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Sharoth wrote:
My guess is Power. So far we have four of the six in play.

James Gunn confirmed that in a Q/A on twitter.

Also...
"WE... ARE..."
I totally teared up at that moment. I'm not ashamed to admit it.

Loved this movie!
Going to see it again next weekend!


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SeeDarkly_X wrote:

"WE... ARE..."

I totally teared up at that moment. I'm not ashamed to admit it.

Spoiler:
These made me smile: this and this.

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Lord Snow wrote:
MMCJawa wrote:

Yeah Days of Future Past really is a completely different movie. Also while I liked Days of Future Past, I can't really say it was a "fun" movie.

For Spoiler reasons, I can't really go into too much detail with Rocket, but he is definitely not a silly talking animal sidekick. He's got some pretty heavy emotional damage going on...

I guess my litmus test would be, did you like the TV show Farscape? Because honestly that is the closest show/movie I can compare it to, especially with how the characters interact, the humor, Quill's personality, etc.

If your mostly drawn toward gritty dark movies ala Nolan Batman, Winter Soldier, etc, you might be disappointed.

I never even heard of Farscape until now. Would you recommend it?

And Avengers is my favorite super hero movie to date, and I wouldn't say it's dark and gritty :)

I heartily recommend the series, with the caution that it suffers from first seasonitis, a common malady for science fiction shows. Great blend of humor, adventure, and darkness, has probably one of the greatest TV science fiction villains of all time, and the use of Jim Henson effects gives it a really unique vibe that allows it to deviate a bit more than usual from the bumpy forehead aliens of other shows.

I am pretty sure that Guardians has as much Farscape DNA as it does from the old comics.

and on the humor scale, not sure where I would rank it compared to the other Marvel movies. Maybe a bit more than Avengers, but then that might be cancelled by also having a bit more in the way of sad scenes.


Lord Snow wrote:
As for the talking raccoon- it's just that the presence of a small, furry animal as a main characters could hint that the movie errs very strongly to the silliness end of the scale. It is certainly unusual, which is why I wanted my expectations managed.

He looks just like a raccoon, not cartoony at all. When he shoots the gun that facial expression gives me flashbacks to almost losing some parts of my anatomy very near and dear to me.

He has a few humorous shots, but he's usually a pretty serious and occasionally tragic character.

X men days of future past was supposed to be deep according to some critics. Guardians... is not. It knows what it is and has a blast with it.

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MMCJawa wrote:
Lord Snow wrote:
MMCJawa wrote:

Yeah Days of Future Past really is a completely different movie. Also while I liked Days of Future Past, I can't really say it was a "fun" movie.

For Spoiler reasons, I can't really go into too much detail with Rocket, but he is definitely not a silly talking animal sidekick. He's got some pretty heavy emotional damage going on...

I guess my litmus test would be, did you like the TV show Farscape? Because honestly that is the closest show/movie I can compare it to, especially with how the characters interact, the humor, Quill's personality, etc.

If your mostly drawn toward gritty dark movies ala Nolan Batman, Winter Soldier, etc, you might be disappointed.

I never even heard of Farscape until now. Would you recommend it?

And Avengers is my favorite super hero movie to date, and I wouldn't say it's dark and gritty :)

I heartily recommend the series, with the caution that it suffers from first seasonitis, a common malady for science fiction shows. Great blend of humor, adventure, and darkness, has probably one of the greatest TV science fiction villains of all time, and the use of Jim Henson effects gives it a really unique vibe that allows it to deviate a bit more than usual from the bumpy forehead aliens of other shows.

I am pretty sure that Guardians has as much Farscape DNA as it does from the old comics.

and on the humor scale, not sure where I would rank it compared to the other Marvel movies. Maybe a bit more than Avengers, but then that might be cancelled by also having a bit more in the way of sad scenes.

Just be aware that if you watch the series, make sure you also have a copy of the made for tv movie The Peacekeeper Wars. The show ended on the worst cliffhanger ever, and you need to watch the movie for closure.


MMCJawa wrote:

I guess my litmus test would be, did you like the TV show Farscape? Because honestly that is the closest show/movie I can compare it to, especially with how the characters interact, the humor, Quill's personality, etc.

I definitely saw some parallels to Farscape when I was watching Guardians.


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I love Farscape. But I disagree that there is any intended inherent or formulaic parallel to it in Guardians.
Even if you can find defined archetypes in it, the characters and story are original and quite different from Farscape.
Sure, the "DNA" is present because nothing that exists now in the genre can say it wasn't influenced in some way by anything previous in the same genre.
But I would be careful about assigning too much similarity here when there isn't all that much.

Let it be itself more than an homage to something else and I think it satisfying in its own right.


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They weren't saying the two were directly link, but rather that "if you enjoyed this.... you might also enjoy this...." kind of thing.


At least for me, there were a couple of moments where I thought, "This reminds me of Farscape," a show I very much enjoyed. I never thought the movie borrowed from Farscape, but I would definitely say (as Irontruth put it), if you enjoyed Farscape, you will most likely enjoy Guardians.

And vice versa. :)

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LazarX wrote:


I suspect that Marvel leveraged their rights for Spiderman and the X-Men in order to use the profits from those movies to finance Marvel Studios, which is the company you're thinking of.

More a case of them selling the rights to have enough money to continue to exist as a company altogether. This was well before Marvel Studios or Disney.


Well yeah...I don't know if Gunn/Marvel went and borrowed Farscape elements, so much as Gunn tends to use similar themes in his work.


I just saw it and loved, one of the best movies I have seen this year.

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Put my hands on the first season of Farscape which I will start watching soon. Ordered tickets for a screening of Guardians of the Galaxy in IMAX tomorrow evening. All primed up and ready to go about both there things :D


MMCJawa wrote:
Well yeah...I don't know if Gunn/Marvel went and borrowed Farscape elements, so much as Gunn tends to use similar themes in his work.

I'm not a horror fan, so I have not watched anything other than Slither from him in that regard...

However I would absolutely say Gunn used the same elements unique to his style and language that I recognize from both Super and The Specials.

Maybe even a bit of PG-Porn too. ;)

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Heh. My daughter worked for one of the companies that did the 3D conversion for the movie, Studio D. She had to convert a "very sad" close-up of Rocket. Which meant she spent like three days staring at that teary-eyed little guy.


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I AM GROOT!

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I don't see how that's any more relevant than the last 83 times you said it.

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WHAT?! How can't you hear. He didn't mean I am groot. He meant I am groot!

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Didn't get a chance to see Thor 2 at the theater and haven't had the time to watch it at home, so I did not know the tesseract contained an infinity gem. With that in mind, I just realized how dumb Thanos really is.

In The Avengers, Thanos sent Loki to open a portal for his troops so they could conquer Earth. Based on the end of Captain America: The First Avenger, Loki was influencing Dr. Selvig while he was working with the Tesseract. That was how it was activated and brought Loki to Earth.

If Thanos was smart, he should have had Loki kidnap Selvig and had him build the device off planet. Then he could have activated it any time and in multiple places. Earth would have had no way of knowing there was about to be an invasion and would not have been able to coordinate a defense. Thanos would have conquored Earth --- End of story!

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If villains were smart, there's be no movies. They would have already won.


Can Thanos' troops and enslaved spacewhales breathe in space though? Thanos is hanging around a asteroid belt or something that apparently has an atmosphere. He may need to land directly somewhere breathable.


You can also assume that Loki had reasons of his own and may not have explained all the details to Thanos. That's always a good assumption with Loki.
But then I never liked Loki as a lackey.

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BigNorseWolf wrote:
Can Thanos' troops and enslaved spacewhales breathe in space though? Thanos is hanging around a asteroid belt or something that apparently has an atmosphere. He may need to land directly somewhere breathable.

you think Thanos needs to breathe, sleep or is still a slave to things like gravity? bwahahahahah! ;)

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Charles Scholz wrote:

Didn't get a chance to see Thor 2 at the theater and haven't had the time to watch it at home, so I did not know the tesseract contained an infinity gem. With that in mind, I just realized how dumb Thanos really is.

In The Avengers, Thanos sent Loki to open a portal for his troops so they could conquer Earth. Based on the end of Captain America: The First Avenger, Loki was influencing Dr. Selvig while he was working with the Tesseract. That was how it was activated and brought Loki to Earth.

If Thanos was smart, he should have had Loki kidnap Selvig and had him build the device off planet. Then he could have activated it any time and in multiple places. Earth would have had no way of knowing there was about to be an invasion and would not have been able to coordinate a defense. Thanos would have conquored Earth --- End of story!

Loki wouldn't do it. Remember, Loki isn't actually a minion of Thanos's per se. He's a pawn in some sense, but technically the two simply had a deal: Thanos helps Loki conquer Earth, then Loki gives him the Tesseract. In fact, mid-movie, Thanos's messenger tries to get Loki to send him the Tesseract immediately. Loki refuses.

So...if anyone's being stupid, it's Loki for thinking conquering Earth is a viable option (though I'd go with seriously crazy rather than stupid on that one, personally). And even then, just giving Thanos the Tesseract almost certainly wouldn't have helped him achieve that goal.


Deadmanwalking wrote:
Charles Scholz wrote:

Didn't get a chance to see Thor 2 at the theater and haven't had the time to watch it at home, so I did not know the tesseract contained an infinity gem. With that in mind, I just realized how dumb Thanos really is.

In The Avengers, Thanos sent Loki to open a portal for his troops so they could conquer Earth. Based on the end of Captain America: The First Avenger, Loki was influencing Dr. Selvig while he was working with the Tesseract. That was how it was activated and brought Loki to Earth.

If Thanos was smart, he should have had Loki kidnap Selvig and had him build the device off planet. Then he could have activated it any time and in multiple places. Earth would have had no way of knowing there was about to be an invasion and would not have been able to coordinate a defense. Thanos would have conquored Earth --- End of story!

Loki wouldn't do it. Remember, Loki isn't actually a minion of Thanos's per se. He's a pawn in some sense, but technically the two simply had a deal: Thanos helps Loki conquer Earth, then Loki gives him the Tesseract. In fact, mid-movie, Thanos's messenger tries to get Loki to send him the Tesseract immediately. Loki refuses.

So...if anyone's being stupid, it's Loki for thinking conquering Earth is a viable option (though I'd go with seriously crazy rather than stupid on that one, personally). And even then, just giving Thanos the Tesseract almost certainly wouldn't have helped him achieve that goal.

Nah, conquering Earth is unlikely to really have been Loki's goal.

Historically Loki has two major motivations, ruling Asgard and pissing off Thor. Anything else it looks like he's doing is just a method towards one or the other.

I'd say he's actually doing pretty well. Stint in Asgard's dungeons notwithstanding.


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Groot wrote:
I AM GROOT!

I disagree, I think the strong showing in an August release is still an anomaly. Studios that think their movies are high quality but don't want to risk competition might push more movies to late summer, but I don't think we'll see an increase overall.

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I AM SMURF!

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How come I am get to be Papa Smurf? Every time I have smurfed, I get a random unnamed Smurf. I feel smurfed.

See, now I am Grouchy Smurf.

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You know the effect of activating the smurf protocol right? it usually kills a thread outright. WHAT HAVE YOU UNLEASHED????

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With all the Groot, it seemed like a good smurf at the time.


TheJeff wrote:
I'd say he's actually doing pretty well. Stint in Asgard's dungeons notwithstanding.

All part of the plan I'm sure.

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thejeff wrote:

Nah, conquering Earth is unlikely to really have been Loki's goal.

Historically Loki has two major motivations, ruling Asgard and pissing off Thor. Anything else it looks like he's doing is just a method towards one or the other.

True enough. Though I tend to think his plan in Avengers definitely fell through, and he wasn't at his most stable there for a while (the staff may have been effecting his stability just like it was that of everyone else...or his time with Thanos messed him up). My point about him not turning the Tesseract over because it didn't serve his own plans stands either way, though.

thejeff wrote:
I'd say he's actually doing pretty well. Stint in Asgard's dungeons notwithstanding.

True. I think Avengers was more of a setback on the road there than part of the plan, though.


I recall seeing some theory online that the Loki actually planned to fail the entire time, to get himself outside of Thanos control, without actually opening betraying him.

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MMCJawa wrote:
I recall seeing some theory online that the Loki actually planned to fail the entire time, to get himself outside of Thanos control, without actually opening betraying him.

Possible, but I personally don't buy it. He almost got nuked, and put way too much effort into making it work.


Having seen this in both 3-D and 2-D, I have to say the 3-D version- even though not the original format- was far superior. The IMAX sound was, obviously, better, but in the darker sequences (notably the opening sequence and the Kree ship), having the additional depth of scene helped greatly to provide some contrast and be able to take in all that was going on. It was too murky in 2-D and things blended together too much (at least at my showing).


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Finally posted my initial thoughts for the film. Couldn't do a full review, because it would have been 5000 odd words of me just spewing praise. Need to see it at least once more, preferably twice, before I can attempt that.

Initial Thoughts: Guardians of the Galaxy


BigNorseWolf wrote:
Can Thanos' troops and enslaved spacewhales breathe in space though? Thanos is hanging around a asteroid belt or something that apparently has an atmosphere. He may need to land directly somewhere breathable.

He could be in the Negative Zone, which has a breathable atmosphere.


Cthulhudrew wrote:
BigNorseWolf wrote:
Can Thanos' troops and enslaved spacewhales breathe in space though? Thanos is hanging around a asteroid belt or something that apparently has an atmosphere. He may need to land directly somewhere breathable.
He could be in the Negative Zone, which has a breathable atmosphere.

Doubtful. The Negative Zone is heavily tied into Fantastic Four, and Fox has the rights to that.


Ivan Rûski wrote:
Doubtful. The Negative Zone is heavily tied into Fantastic Four, and Fox has the rights to that.

Not necessarily- the Kree and Inhumans are both strongly (and primarily) connected to the FF, but the Kree were able to be mentioned and used in Guardians, and it has been verified that Marvel Studios retains the rights to the Inhumans as well. Similarly, another FF villain- the Skrulls- are jointly shared by Fox and Marvel.

That said, despite my suggestion, I doubt that they are in the Negative Zone, but I posited that simply as an example of how/where there is such a place as open space with breathable atmosphere within the Marvel Universe.

Another such place is the Blue Area of the Moon created- incidentally by the Kree. So it's not completely unfounded that there could be a place where people can breathe in space in the MU. Heck, Thanos doesn't need to breathe at all anyway.

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you wouldn't think twice if you'd see that "Thanos float in space" scene in a comic book... so why are you guys trying to bring down the "kewwwwl" factor of it with logic and stuff? :)

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Well, going to see it in a couple hours. Fingers crossed!

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you're gonna love it... I want to see it again now! :) :) :)

don't look!:
PS: Seth Green does the voice for Howard the Duck at the end! teeheehee!!

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Oh man did I LOVE THE HELL OUT OF IT. It was amazing! Definitely the best Marvel movie thus far.

Pelvic magic...oh man the jokes. And the tear jerker at the end. It was a good ggod film.

The only thing I kinda didn't like was Nebula.

Oh and the after credits scene....hehehe, Lucas must have been screaming for days.


Slight tangent...

Anyone else annoyed by pre-credits credits? Guardians didn't have them and I was thankful.

Also, I'm kind of over the concept of the after scene. Shawarma was fine, the guardians one was fine and a few others, but overall I'm starting to find them annoying.

We all know sequels are coming. Let us enjoy THIS movie, without having to tease us for the next one.

/rant

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Irontruth wrote:

Slight tangent...

Anyone else annoyed by pre-credits credits? Guardians didn't have them and I was thankful.

Also, I'm kind of over the concept of the after scene. Shawarma was fine, the guardians one was fine and a few others, but overall I'm starting to find them annoying.

We all know sequels are coming. Let us enjoy THIS movie, without having to tease us for the next one.

/rant

I don't think the post-credits sequence was really teasing a new movie.

Spoiler:

I don't think we'll be seeing a Howard the Duck movie any time soon.

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Why not? Two good reasons why. One, George Lucas will have to suffer for his old shame. Two, it could be fun. After all Seth Greene.


DM_aka_Dudemeister wrote:
Irontruth wrote:

Slight tangent...

Anyone else annoyed by pre-credits credits? Guardians didn't have them and I was thankful.

Also, I'm kind of over the concept of the after scene. Shawarma was fine, the guardians one was fine and a few others, but overall I'm starting to find them annoying.

We all know sequels are coming. Let us enjoy THIS movie, without having to tease us for the next one.

/rant

I don't think the post-credits sequence was really teasing a new movie.

** spoiler omitted **

Note the bolded portion of my post. I said the Guardians one was fine.

If the after scene is mandatory (which at this point for Marvel movies, it is), I prefer ones that wrap up something that happened in the movie, or explain something that happened just a little bit. The post-credit scene was good, it had a little humor in it and importantly it told us

Spoiler:
(the viewers) that the Collector was still alive. He's playing a vital connecting role that helps tie different stories together, but his survival had nothing to do with the Guardians story, so it didn't deserve a full scene in the regular part of the movie.


Irontruth, please use spoiler tags. It's only minor, but some people here still may not have had a chance to see it yet.


Saw it tonight and as I hoped, loved it. Nice to have your expectations for a film fully met :)

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Finally got around to seeing it. It was fun and cool and kept me thoroughly entertained for a couple of hours. It proved that Marvel CAN, in fact, make movies about weird people in a weird environment and have them not suck (I'm looking at you, Thor movies).

I did not read the comics, which obviously affected the way I saw the movie.

thoughts:

1) If I recall correctly, the exact names of the characters were: Groot, Rocket, Star Lord, Green Chick, Blue Dude.

2) Somehow the movie felt like one of us nerds got lucky enough to make a movie out of his homebrew sci-fi campaign. Meaning that much of the movie felt like a roleplaying game to me (and both me brothers). I found myself thinking things like "Well, yeah, Star Lord is what, a 12th level rouge?", and that Rocket is that whacky character concept one of the players insisted on using, but is making up for it with good roleplay.

3) While the movie was really fun, with great action scenes, some of it felt like a five year old wrote a script for a B movie.
"What are you doing?! Thanos is the most power thing in the universe!"
"No, now I AM THE MOST POWERFUL THING IN THE UNIVERSE!"

questions:

1) Why is the Kree warship that Ronin is using called a "necro-craft", manned by space mummies with lazer guns and apparently piloted by those people in the throne room who wield energy spheres in their hands?

2) Star Lord is half time lord, right? because we found out he is only half human (presumably the other half also appears human like and gave him greater resistance to stuff), the race of his father is too ancient to be recognized and his mother called him "star lord", which certainly could be a slight abbreviation of "time lord".
Seriously though, he's probably half Asgardian. Right?

3) What is Groot? Are there more of his kind? Also, the Collector asked him for his remains, after he is killed, but we saw in the movie that if even a branch of him remains you can plant it and he will regrow. So can he be killed in a way that leaves parts of him behind?

4) What is that dart whistle thing thing the Yondu uses as a weapon? seems like a very powerful item.

puns:

1) Even though some of the major characters were quite grootesque , I was grooting for them the whole time.

2) If Star Lord is indeed half Asgardian, will the next movie in the series be "Asgardians of the Galaxy"?

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