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I think I saw Arishem the Judge in a particular scene, though it's hard to say. (Not really a spoiler, as it isn't outright stated, nor does it play any particular impact on the storyline, just what seems like a cool Easter Egg.)


I just got back from seeing this movie. I loved it. It was very good.

My only complaint...and it is rather minor...

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The end credits scene....was meh. I mean I am old enough to remember Howard the Duck...but really the 80's movie had better special effects....and why are Howard and Cosmo hanging around with the guy who put them in cages?


I saw it yesterday. I was pretty unfamiliar with the characters, plot, etc., etc., but still thought it was pretty entertaining. Also, is it just me or did Drax look like a bulked-up, blue Sexy Putin?

Went home afterwords and was subjected to the hetero life partner watching all three Matrix films. I much preferred GotG.


Cthulhudrew wrote:

I was thinking it was Reality, but it could be Power. The only one confirmed, I believe, is Space (the Tesseract). Aether could be Reality, I guess, or Power. (Frankly, the visuals of it seem more like Space, to me, and the visuals of the Tesseract seem more like Power, but who the heck am I to say?)

There's also whatever is in Loki's staff (presumably Mind).

I have a sneaking suspicion that the Cask of Ancient Winters (used in the first Thor) will turn out to be Time. Which leaves one more, yet to be revealed. Given that the Collector hasn't had much to do in the films yet, I am also curious if they are planning on doing the Korvac saga for a future Avengers film (in which case that might be where/when they bring in the final stone).

Guardians is estimated to pull in around $95 million this weekend (a low-ball estimate from what I've read). Pretty good.

My favorite of the movies is still Winter Soldier, which I feel was the most nuanced, paced, and well-written of them all so far, but this is up there. Avengers is probably my number 2, but this gets close to #3 for me, though I'm not yet sure. I'll take in another viewing soon to see how it holds up on repeats. Enjoyed the heck out of it, though.


I remember reading that they were originally projecting a 65 Million opening weekend, so getting 90+ million is actually really good.


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I was a little unhappy with Gamora. She's played up as an uber assassin and daughter of thanos, but has betrayed thanos at the start of the movie, doesn't kill anyone, and seems to just get knocked out and taken prisoner by everyone from prisoners to intergalactic raiders


Matthew Morris wrote:

My indepth, spoiler filled review.

** spoiler omitted **

Aside, do we know which Infinity Gem was in the movie?

I slightly disagree with this review. You forgot...

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We are Groot


John Kretzer wrote:
Matthew Morris wrote:

My indepth, spoiler filled review.

** spoiler omitted **

Aside, do we know which Infinity Gem was in the movie?

I slightly disagree with this review. You forgot...

** spoiler omitted **

Not to quibble with either review, but...

Spoiler:
"I am not a gun."
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Excellent movie. I enjoyed it immensely. As others have noted, it doesn't make it into my top couple (that's The Winter soldier and The Avengers), but it's very solid. I only have a couple of minor complaints (noted in the spoiler below.).

BigNorseWolf wrote:
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See, I was okay with her demonstrated battle prowess. She only 'got captured' in the sense of allowing groups of people to drag her around for a moment before doing anything...when she chose to get out of 'being captured' it actually went pretty well.Besides, being outnumbered matters

My issue with Gamora was that she seemed to get less character development than the others...well, maybe except for Groot, but he's a special case. Hopefully they'll fix that next movie. My other issue with this movie was that the fight scenes in the Kree ship got a little busy, which I always consider an issue. And...that's the sum of my complaints.

Dark Archive

Just saw it.

Spoiler:
I think my favorite bit is the adult humor that snuck in like Quill telling Gamora that his 'filthy' ship is even worse under black light, 'it looks like a Jackson Pollack painting.'

(We usually pick our favorite parts with the kids on the way home, and I wasn't about to explain that part, so I went with something more like, 'I'm pretty sure the answer to that is, 'I am Groot.'')

I don't have a problem with Gamora's showing, because I never really liked her anyway. With a team including Phyla-Vell, Moondragon and / or Mantis, it's like the Avengers all over again (where they ignore the super-powered Wasp and Scarlet Witch to have the Black Widow, an acrobat whose good with a gun, as the sole Marvel movies 'super-heroine.'). Why is Marvel so hesitant to put super-powered women in their movies about super-powered men?


Set wrote:
it's like the Avengers all over again (where they ignore the super-powered Wasp and Scarlet Witch to have the Black Widow, an acrobat whose good with a gun, as the sole Marvel movies 'super-heroine.'). Why is Marvel so hesitant to put super-powered women in their movies about super-powered men?

In fairness, the Widow fit better than most of the other choices as coming from the SHIELD side of the recruiting. Super agent kind of thing. Most others I can think of would have required a lot more setup, probably a movie of their own.

Not that that would have been a bad thing, but definitely harder and riskier to do.

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There is one thing I would have added to the movie:

Spoiler:
Had a Kevin Bacon cameo at the end, or have Gamora watching Footloose at the end.


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This movie exceeded all of my expectations and was better than avengers, IMHO.


Gamora was probably chosen to be part of the MCU Guardians because of her connections to Thanos, who they have been slowly setting for Avengers 3, what with all the infinity stones and what nots

Spoiler:

I would say the only real weak point, that causes Winter Soldier to edge it out in my mind for "best Marvel Movie", is the treatment of Villains. not counting mooks or the Ravagers, we had 4 or 5 different villains (depending on how you view Yondu or The Collector), but not enough time to develop any of them. Korath was pointless, and should have been cut from the movie and more given to Nebula, who also needed development (Although at least Nebula escaped and so might get more development later). Ronan was a pretty one note villain as well. Granted...if you are going to be one note, religious fundamentalist/genocidal maniac isn't a bad note, but he was still pretty bland compared to most of the other Marvel villains. Thanos and The Collector were glorified cameos. I assume The Collector will be back for GotG 2, but seemed completely pointless here.

As far as Gamora goes I actually thought it would be revealed that she was a double-agent for Thanos all along, who (correctly) had no faith that Ronan would stay loyal once he got the Gem.


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Or because she has been a member of the Guardians in the comics before the movie was even thought of. That she is Thanos daughter was probably just the cherry on top for the writers of the movie.


magnuskn wrote:
Or because she has been a member of the Guardians in the comics before the movie was even thought of. That she is Thanos daughter was probably just the cherry on top for the writers of the movie.

This, pretty much. She's been a major component of Marvel's cosmic scene since Starlin first put it on the map with his Warlock series in the 70s (along with, of course, Thanos, Drax the Destroyer, and his version of Adam Warlock), and she has been a part of the "new" cosmic lineup since it was revived with Giffen's Annihilation series, up to and including her presence among the Abnett and Lanning Guardians of the Galaxy series (upon which the movie is based in large part) and the current lineup of Bendis' version, which features the movie lineup.

Drax, Rocket, Quill, and Groot were/are also part of that lineup. Hopefully we'll see some more of the cast show up in a sequel- Cosmo (in a talking role), Mantis, Moondragon and/or Phyla-Vell (though both have really complicated backstories to work in, although Moondragon would probably be easiest). I'd love to see Bug, too.

Oh, and of course, Adam Warlock. They've absolutely got to bring him into things.


On another note, I am curious as to how Marvel will potentially develop future movies. Obviously, Thanos now has both Avengers and Guardians ties, and- while it might be cool to see it- a movie featuring both groups going up against Thanos would probably be a trainwreck. Way too many characters vying for face time in a 2 hour movie. Unless they plan on doing it as some kind of "double" feature- Avengers square off against Thanos on Earth, and then- 6 months to a year later- the Guardians square off against him in space. (Which, now that I think of it, is probably the only way to really do it, and might just fit into the sort of Hollywood- "Let's make the Hobbit into Three parts!" mentality).

I also wonder whether or not the groundwork they've laid with the Collector might not be setting up the Korvac Saga for a future Avengers film. (Or maybe even as the plot to Guardians 2, considering that the original Guardians were closely involved in the Korvac saga in the comics.)

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So, does this movie have a plot? do character motivations make sense? When watching the movie, should I bother listening to the dialog?

I will probably watch the movie at some point during the following week, and I already heard it was very fun - I just want to make sure my expectations are calibrated for what I'm going to get. Thanks in advance :)

Ohh, also, is there a tie between this and the rest of the MCU? Asking as one who never read the comics.


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Lord Snow wrote:

So, does this movie have a plot? do character motivations make sense? When watching the movie, should I bother listening to the dialog?

I will probably watch the movie at some point during the following week, and I already heard it was very fun - I just want to make sure my expectations are calibrated for what I'm going to get. Thanks in advance :)

Ohh, also, is there a tie between this and the rest of the MCU? Asking as one who never read the comics.

Wow cynic much?

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Lord Snow wrote:
So, does this movie have a plot?

Yes. It's relatively simple at heart (though there are some flourishes), but definitely there.

Lord Snow wrote:
do character motivations make sense?

Yes. If you pay attention to what characters are actually like rather than what they say they're like, anyway. Some of them are lying (even to themselves).

Lord Snow wrote:
When watching the movie, should I bother listening to the dialog?

Yes. The dialogue is, like, 80% of the comedy, and it is comedy gold. This movie is an action comedy. A good one. And honestly, the comedy was better than the action, IMO. Not that the action wasn't good, it was, the comedy was just better.

Lord Snow wrote:
I will probably watch the movie at some point during the following week, and I already heard it was very fun - I just want to make sure my expectations are calibrated for what I'm going to get. Thanks in advance :)

No problem. I'm always happy to be of assistance. :)

Lord Snow wrote:
Ohh, also, is there a tie between this and the rest of the MCU? Asking as one who never read the comics.

Yes. Thanos shows up, one of the characters is from Earth, and it shares a character with Avengers (the guy who was giving Loki orders) and makes at least one reference to it. The connections aren't huge, but they're there.

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Deadmanwalking, thanks, that was helpful :)

I don't really know who Thanos is, but I guess watching the movie is as good a way to find out as any.

John Kretzer - after walking into Days of Future Past with the expectations of getting a really good X-Men movie, I got what I considered a very bad movie. Since then I've been thinking that had I came into the theater expecting nothing more than to see a couple of cool actions scenes and experience that awesome Quicksilver scene everyone was raving about, I might have enjoyed the movie for what it was rather than what I wanted it to be. And with a movie called Guardians of the Galaxy that has a talking raccoon in it... can you see why I wanted to make sure what to expect before walking in? :P

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Lord Snow wrote:
Deadmanwalking, thanks, that was helpful :)

Like I said, happy to be of assistance. :)

Lord Snow wrote:
I don't really know who Thanos is, but I guess watching the movie is as good a way to find out as any.

Indeed!

Lord Snow wrote:
John Kretzer - after walking into Days of Future Past with the expectations of getting a really good X-Men movie, I got what I considered a very bad movie. Since then I've been thinking that had I came into the theater expecting nothing more than to see a couple of cool actions scenes and experience that awesome Quicksilver scene everyone was raving about, I might have enjoyed the movie for what it was rather than what I wanted it to be. And with a movie called Guardians of the Galaxy that has a talking raccoon in it... can you see why I wanted to make sure what to expect before walking in? :P

I'd expect to laugh.

I actually liked Days of Future Past, so our tastes might not synch up, but I'm pretty sure the comedy elements of Guardians of the Galaxy are pretty close to universal barring a language barrier. Expect amusement plus some cool action scenes and I doubt you'll be disappointed.


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I just saw it. I loved it. It was everything I wanted from it. I was thinking I'd review it, but I've got no idea how to, because I can't think of any way to describe how much I loved it.

I'm also going to admit something. I cried. Gods but I cried. I'm not ashamed to admit it (though I suspect that if I wasn't several glasses of wine down, it probably would have been me just tearing up a little instead of actually crying. Thankfully it was silent). Those who have seen it will probably know where it happened, but if you can't figure it out.

What set me off (Spoilers, duh, and dialog may not be 100% correct):
When Ronan's ship is crashing, and Groot forms himself into a cage to protect the others...
Rocket: "No Groot, you can't... you'll die. Why are you doing this?"
Groot: "We are Groot..."

It was so obvious that he was trying to say "We are friends", and just couldn't get the last word, and holy crap it just hit me right in the feels. Of all the things I ever thought could make me cry, Vin Diesel voicing a CGI tree man wasn't one of them...


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Tinkergoth wrote:
** spoiler omitted **

If you find Vin Diesel's voicework in GotG moving, you should probably Netflix or borrow from your public library a copy of The Iron Giant: great story, superb animation that still looks great almost 15 years later, and directed/co-written by Brad Bird (of Pixar's The Incredibles). And plenty of feels.

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thejeff wrote:

Hmmm. They're not selling me on it.

I haven't read the current comic either, though I'm at least vaguely familiar with the characters - and have an old fondness for Rocket Raccoon.

But this trailer didn't work for me. Why should I care about any of these people: an egotistical petty con-man and thief, a psycho, an assassin, a car thief and his muscle? Right now, I'm on the side of the cops. Keep these guys locked up.

Plus, it doesn't quite hang together: Quill is arrested on his own and it feels like and origin story: They all meet in prison and bust out to ... do whatever the actual plot is about (Nebula and the Collector, apparently), but the cops already know their the Guardians of the Galaxy, so it isn't an origin?
Maybe there's more to it and it will make sense in context.

Right now it feels more like a bad gritty SF dystopia movie than a super-hero SF team. Except we don't even have any reason to think the cops are the bad guys and the Guardians aren't just a bunch of criminals.

Let me give you a major hint.... The Trailers lie. I went to the movie convinced on the trailers that it was going to stink higher then Pepe Le Peu. Not only did the movie not suck, it was bloody awesome. Most of what you see as incongruous is because the trailers are out of context. The Guardians do not exist as a group or even a name, when our future heroes are arrested.

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Lord Snow wrote:

So, does this movie have a plot? do character motivations make sense? When watching the movie, should I bother listening to the dialog?

I will probably watch the movie at some point during the following week, and I already heard it was very fun - I just want to make sure my expectations are calibrated for what I'm going to get. Thanks in advance :)

Ohh, also, is there a tie between this and the rest of the MCU? Asking as one who never read the comics.

Ye, Very much so, Definitely.

The Guardians had at best, a tenuous connection to the MCU because they were originally set in the far future with a totally different team lineup. Star Lord's original stories were not part of the Marvel Universe at all. His origin was reworked, and and he was relatively recently grafted to the Guardians as was Gamora, all of which were recently integrated into the mainline comics universe. The events in the movie DO tie into the Marvel Movie Universe and will serve a a lead up to the Avengers movie featuring Thanos.


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Ambrosia Slaad wrote:
Tinkergoth wrote:
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If you find Vin Diesel's voicework in GotG moving, you should probably Netflix or borrow from your public library a copy of The Iron Giant: great story, superb animation that still looks great almost 15 years later, and directed/co-written by Brad Bird (of Pixar's The Incredibles). And plenty of feels.

Oh ye gods, I'd forgotten he was the Iron Giant. Yeah, now it makes more sense.


yeah...this was the first Marvel movie to make me teary-eyed. And there are not a whole lot of movies that have done that.

As for MCU tie-ins

Thanos was the guy showed in the after credit sequence of the Avengers. He provided Loki with his alien army. He is also trying to collect the infinity stones, a set of magic McGuffins that will give him ultimate power. Already revealed Infinity stones include the Tesseract from Captain America: The First Avenger and Avengers, and the Aether, from Thor 2: Dark World.

And yeah...the trailers didn't really reveal the plot very well (which is a good thing). Also several things in the trailer WERE not in the movie, and were just shot for the trailer.


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Lord Snow wrote:

Deadmanwalking, thanks, that was helpful :)

I don't really know who Thanos is, but I guess watching the movie is as good a way to find out as any.

John Kretzer - after walking into Days of Future Past with the expectations of getting a really good X-Men movie, I got what I considered a very bad movie. Since then I've been thinking that had I came into the theater expecting nothing more than to see a couple of cool actions scenes and experience that awesome Quicksilver scene everyone was raving about, I might have enjoyed the movie for what it was rather than what I wanted it to be. And with a movie called Guardians of the Galaxy that has a talking raccoon in it... can you see why I wanted to make sure what to expect before walking in? :P

I was only kidding...well mostly. You should understand though that the X-Men movie is made by a different Movie company and is not part of the MCU. Personally I wished that the Marvel got the movie rights for all their properties back. It is from the same company that gave us Iron Man, the Avengers, etc. Not the X-Men, Spider Man or the FF movies.

Also the talking raccoon...I don't get why that would mean the movie can not have a plot of good dialogue...especially from somebody who plays a game like Pathfinder.


Tinkergoth wrote:

I just saw it. I loved it. It was everything I wanted from it. I was thinking I'd review it, but I've got no idea how to, because I can't think of any way to describe how much I loved it.

I'm also going to admit something. I cried. Gods but I cried. I'm not ashamed to admit it (though I suspect that if I wasn't several glasses of wine down, it probably would have been me just tearing up a little instead of actually crying. Thankfully it was silent). Those who have seen it will probably know where it happened, but if you can't figure it out.

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Yeah I'll admit I did too though I was not surprise by it as you were because I also remembered Iron Giant.


I thoroughly enjoyed it. I cried too, but I also had some things in real life happen this weekend that have put me in a crying mood in general. The movie hits a couple of really cool features IMO...

-It's hilarious without being a comedy
-Tons of action, but it all serves to further the plot
-Music selection and pop culture references are great without being overbearing
-A long movie, but the pacing and cohesive nature of each act were great

There were a couple of scenes that I felt were weak. I love Glen Close, but the writing/editing/directing of the Nova Prime scenes in particular felt forced. They felt like they were from another movie and cut to make them look like they belonged.


Lord Snow wrote:

Deadmanwalking, thanks, that was helpful :)

I don't really know who Thanos is, but I guess watching the movie is as good a way to find out as any.

John Kretzer - after walking into Days of Future Past with the expectations of getting a really good X-Men movie, I got what I considered a very bad movie. Since then I've been thinking that had I came into the theater expecting nothing more than to see a couple of cool actions scenes and experience that awesome Quicksilver scene everyone was raving about, I might have enjoyed the movie for what it was rather than what I wanted it to be. And with a movie called Guardians of the Galaxy that has a talking raccoon in it... can you see why I wanted to make sure what to expect before walking in? :P

Do yo like ANY superhero movies?


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Jackson Pollock paintings

You're either laughing right now or you'll thank me later.


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So,

Spoiler:

does this mean that Howard the Duck will be the Nick Fury of the remaining Phase II movies?

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BigNorseWolf wrote:
Lord Snow wrote:

Deadmanwalking, thanks, that was helpful :)

I don't really know who Thanos is, but I guess watching the movie is as good a way to find out as any.

John Kretzer - after walking into Days of Future Past with the expectations of getting a really good X-Men movie, I got what I considered a very bad movie. Since then I've been thinking that had I came into the theater expecting nothing more than to see a couple of cool actions scenes and experience that awesome Quicksilver scene everyone was raving about, I might have enjoyed the movie for what it was rather than what I wanted it to be. And with a movie called Guardians of the Galaxy that has a talking raccoon in it... can you see why I wanted to make sure what to expect before walking in? :P

Do yo like ANY superhero movies?

X-Men 2, Captain America 2, Avengers, Dark Knight, The Incredibles, Watchmen, were all superb.

All three Iron man movies, X-men 1, X-men 3, Wolverine (the one with Japan), The first two Spiderman movies (not the Amazing Spiderman, the one before that), Batman Begins & The Dark Knight Rises, and probably some others I'm forgetting now, are all on the scale of good to excellent.
The two Thor movies, Fantastic 4, Spiderman 3, both Amazing Spiderman, Captain America 1, X-Men: First Class and X-Men: Days of Future Past, X-Men Origins: Wolverine, Man of Steel, were on the scale from terrible to bad.

So I enjoyed *most* superheroes movies, I'd say, at least of those I've seen. I know there were like a thousand Batman movies before Christopher Nolan stepped in, and that most of them were hilariously bad, but haven't watched them so they don't count, I guess.

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I was only kidding...well mostly. You should understand though that the X-Men movie is made by a different Movie company and is not part of the MCU. Personally I wished that the Marvel got the movie rights for all their properties back. It is from the same company that gave us Iron Man, the Avengers, etc. Not the X-Men, Spider Man or the FF movies.

Also the talking raccoon...I don't get why that would mean the movie can not have a plot of good dialogue...especially from somebody who plays a game like Pathfinder.

Yeah, I know X-Men belongs to a different company, it's just that similarly to X-Men: Days of Future past, Guardians of the Galaxy was getting almost identical hype - everyone is talking about how fun and awesome it is. Since it's mostly the same people (because it's almost everyone) who is saying the same things, I fear I might find myself once again not enjoying the movie for the same reasons. Hence, my questions about the story, characters, and dialog.

As for the talking raccoon- it's just that the presence of a small, furry animal as a main characters could hint that the movie errs very strongly to the silliness end of the scale. It is certainly unusual, which is why I wanted my expectations managed.


John Kretzer wrote:

I just got back from seeing this movie. I loved it. It was very good.

My only complaint...and it is rather minor...

** spoiler omitted **

Spoiler:
Howard the Duck was only part of the scene, he is Marvel property after all, but in the background you can apparently see Adam Warlock's opened cocoon - I admit I was focused on Howard too, so I missed it, might have to see it again.

Lord Snow wrote:
Yeah, I know X-Men belongs to a different company, it's just that similarly to X-Men: Days of Future past, Guardians of the Galaxy was getting almost identical hype - everyone is talking about how fun and awesome it is. Since it's mostly the same people (because it's almost everyone) who is saying the same things, I fear I might find myself once again not enjoying the movie for the same reasons. Hence, my questions about the story, characters, and dialog.

You cannot compare Days of Future Past to GotG. Two very, very different movies. If you didn't like Days of Future Past you have no reason to worry about GotG.


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So I heard that Disney forced Marvel to include both Donald Duck and Pluto in an extra scene for the movie. Watch for Mickey in Avengers 2.

Spoiler:
LOL JK! I know who Cosmo and Howard are.

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I want a Groot to team up with Hodor from Game of Thrones.


Yeah Days of Future Past really is a completely different movie. Also while I liked Days of Future Past, I can't really say it was a "fun" movie.

For Spoiler reasons, I can't really go into too much detail with Rocket, but he is definitely not a silly talking animal sidekick. He's got some pretty heavy emotional damage going on...

I guess my litmus test would be, did you like the TV show Farscape? Because honestly that is the closest show/movie I can compare it to, especially with how the characters interact, the humor, Quill's personality, etc.

If your mostly drawn toward gritty dark movies ala Nolan Batman, Winter Soldier, etc, you might be disappointed.


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That raccoon was one of the best things in the movie. Seriously.

I would've been happy with the movie simply being entertaining, but it actually turned out good.

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John Kretzer wrote:

I was only kidding...well mostly. You should understand though that the X-Men movie is made by a different Movie company and is not part of the MCU. Personally I wished that the Marvel got the movie rights for all their properties back. It is from the same company that gave us Iron Man, the Avengers, etc. Not the X-Men, Spider Man or the FF movies.

Also the talking raccoon...I don't get why that would mean the movie can not have a plot of good dialogue...especially from somebody who plays a game like Pathfinder..

I suspect that Marvel leveraged their rights for Spiderman and the X-Men in order to use the profits from those movies to finance Marvel Studios, which is the company you're thinking of.

And as to your other question... how many gaming sessions have you seen would make for good dialogue out of all those out there?


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+1 to everyone saying it was awesome and hilarious.

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MMCJawa wrote:

Yeah Days of Future Past really is a completely different movie. Also while I liked Days of Future Past, I can't really say it was a "fun" movie.

For Spoiler reasons, I can't really go into too much detail with Rocket, but he is definitely not a silly talking animal sidekick. He's got some pretty heavy emotional damage going on...

I guess my litmus test would be, did you like the TV show Farscape? Because honestly that is the closest show/movie I can compare it to, especially with how the characters interact, the humor, Quill's personality, etc.

If your mostly drawn toward gritty dark movies ala Nolan Batman, Winter Soldier, etc, you might be disappointed.

I never even heard of Farscape until now. Would you recommend it?

And Avengers is my favorite super hero movie to date, and I wouldn't say it's dark and gritty :)


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It was funny without losing it's seriousness.
It covered almost the entire range of emotions without going overboard.
The first sad moment is only like 2 minutes into the movie, with the first laugh not too far behind that one.

The soundtrack itself is a character of a sort in the movie, and the timing of when and which song is used was brilliant.

The dialogue wasn't weak or used as a filler between action scenes, which is a major problem in a lot of superhero movies.

It was a glorious motion picture.


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Kryzbyn wrote:
alot of superhero movies.

*flies off in a mask and cape*


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...!


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Lord Snow wrote:
I never even heard of Farscape until now. Would you recommend it?

Wholeheartedly. The first few episodes after the pilot of season 1 can be a bit slow, as the writers start to figure the characters out. After that, it really starts to take off. Be warned that there are some pretty dark themes running under even the humorous moments. The characters pretty much barely tolerate each other at first, which grows to grudging respect, and eventually actual friendship. Don't give up on the "muppets", Rygel and Pilot, as they are masterfully acted and you pretty quickly forget they aren't real.


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There also used to be a similar show on Fox where a crew of misfits/criminals ended up being real damn heroes.

I forget the gorram name...


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Saw it a second time. I love the cast. Groot, Rocket and Quill each steal several scenes, sometimes from each other even.

Drax is pretty solid, but falls flat a couple times.

Gamora though bothered me and I finally realized why. About 1/3 of her dialogue seems focused on reminding the audience and the rest of the cast that they need to proceed on to the next plot point. The other 4 characters all go through some sort of transformation (or at least audience perception changes), but she doesn't feel like she changes at all. It's an inherent problem with stoic warrior types, but not insurmountable.

Rocket is amazing though. Bradley Cooper does an amazing job as the voice. The animation is so good, that you stop noticing it. The character doesn't really participate in any slapstick, which I think is important for lending him gravitas as a character. He was predominantly a dialogue character, not a visual one.

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