Hi.
I'm making a Bard from one of Treants suggestions, a Half-Orc Bard with Intimidate and a Snag Net. I'm currently on level 4, and I can really see sickened being a good addition to the mix of shaken, entangled and prone, since it's basically shaken with additional -2 damage too.
So I am now trying to find the best way to get someone Sickened. But most ways I've found so far has a low fortitude save to go. As of exactly this moment I have 5k gc available, but I can save more, or wait a couple of levels too. Just wondering what I want to do to give sickness effectively :-)
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Seriously though, that is a LOT of debuffs. You must be a debuffs king. Are you looking for a spell or alchemical weapon/tool?
Lol! Will ask my GM for that, and threaten him with actually turning it on!
Anything really, preferably something that lasts for a battle, and something I should be able to actually hit them with :-) using attack is actually not that bad, with all other debuffs in place, but preferably it would be the second thing to do to him in battle (after intimidating him) so something at will save would be best, I think. Or no save, of course :-D Touch AC would be OK too :-P
Yeah, since I have Dazzeling display basically the whole battlefield gets Shaken in first or second round for normally 4-5 rounds, but the net with entanglement and tripping prone, is only singletarget. But then again, when I'm done with that single target suffers -8 melee, no ranged except -4 crossbow, -2 AC, -4 dex, -2 saves, skills and ability checks, half speed, and finally needs to get up from prone, provoking Attack of opportunity, and to get loose, he needs DC 22 Escape Artist (which with Sickened would be with a total of -4 skill check) and Lastly a 17+spell level concentration check to cast spells.
That one target is close to useless, and will be more so when Sickened. But then again, it's still only one target :-)
The sight of me in the nude tends to work.
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Make your net (or another weapon) Cruel, and hit them with it after you intimidate them.
There is also the Dirty Trick maneuver. Single Target and short duration, but a kick to the nethers does the trick.
"Vomit Swarm! BLEAAAAHRGHLORGLE!"
Lazurin Arborlon wrote: The sight of me in the nude tends to work. *looks at the picture from last time he did it*
*Makes a fort save, doesn't roll a Nat 20 vs DC 9001.*
*vomits uncontrollably*
Leifen88 wrote: Hi.
I'm making a Bard from one of Treants suggestions, a Half-Orc Bard with Intimidate and a Snag Net. I'm currently on level 4, and I can really see sickened being a good addition to the mix of shaken, entangled and prone, since it's basically shaken with additional -2 damage too.
So I am now trying to find the best way to get someone Sickened. But most ways I've found so far has a low fortitude save to go. As of exactly this moment I have 5k gc available, but I can save more, or wait a couple of levels too. Just wondering what I want to do to give sickness effectively :-)
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How about a kiss?
Disclaimer: Not actually the best way.
Cruel net should be pretty good, even with the low duration, since he will always be Shaken and It's autosickened with the already close to autohitting net since it's against touch AC :-)
I have found several spells..
Distressed tone (multiple targets, OK duration)
Curse of Disgust (3rd level spell, basically ensures Sickened for a long time, if done right)
Pox Pustules (Not Bard spell, but bonus - 4 Dex, might want to get this somehow)
Also a Rod of Nettles could be used, though a pretty low fortitude, but with high reward, and auto dex penalty is a good one anyways.
Lash of the Howler is an alternative too, specially since I'm proficient with the whip too.
Firefoot powder could also be usable, though also here it's a low DC 14 fort.
I am not a sorcerer or a tiefling, and the Cleric needs to heal, but otherwise a good suggestion :-) And it's surely a point that it doesn't need to be me who is doing the sickening :-)
Any other thoughts? :-)
Could play a bard type that gets a familiar, get improved familiar and go for a familiar that can make others sickened naturally or through UMD.
In general,one of the easiest ways for anyone who cam be in melee to apply the sickened condition is whirling hold, a three feat investment that allows sickened for roundd equal to strength or dex modifier. For your case though, I agree with the rod of nettles
It's a 2 feat investment but you could take the feats Racial Heritage[Ogre] and Corrupted Flesh. Its even possible to upgrade it later on from sickening everyone around you to full blown nausea via the feat Pungent Stench
Just get a cruel net like already stated. Intimidate and then use the net. No feats. Just a +1 enhancement
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