Lance Build Need to Knows

[Driver 325 yards]

I am diving into making a lance build.

I was hoping some of you could chime in to let me know the lance rule, feat, class, race "need to knows."

Thanks in advance.

[rorek55]

like... mounted combat lances?

if that then the feats are
mounted combat
ride-by-attack
spirited charge
wheeling charge

and thats really -all- you -need-.

[Mauril]

You probably ought to be aware of the following FAQs as well.

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Power Attack: If I am using a two-handed weapon with one hand (such as a lance while mounted), do still I get the +50% damage for using a two-handed weapon?

Yes.

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Lance: If I have the pounce ability and I charge with a lance, do my iterative lance attacks get the lance's extra damage multiplier from charging?

No, for two reasons.

One, because a lance only deals extra damage when you’re riding a charging mount—not when you are charging.

Two, even if you have an unusual combination of rules that allows you to ignore the above limitation, it doesn’t makes sense that those iterative attacks gain the damage bonus. To make that second attack, you have to pull the lance back and stab forward again, and that stab doesn’t have the benefit of the charge’s momentum. (The Core Rulebook doesn’t state that you only get the damage multiplier on the first attack with a lance because when the Core Rulebook was published, there was no way for a PC to charge and get multiple attacks with a weapon in the same round, so that combination didn’t need to be addressed.)

Also, depending on how high a level you are playing at, you'll want to make sure to get pounce or some other similar ability, but that's universally true for martial characters.

[Falcar]

With a lance static bonus are going to be the best as they get multiplied on your charge. Also power attack is as a two handed weapon so you have the -1 +3.

Enhancements to look at are basic +1 to +5 or impact. A +1 will have almost the same damage at flaming in addition to extra attack bonus.

[thebigragu]

Vital Strike has been (heatedly) talked about a lot with Mounted Combat. If your DM agrees that it's usable in a mounted charge, as I believe it is, then the Vital Strike chain is excellent for a mounted lancer.

Read this thread to understand this, and mounted combat in general, much better.

[Driver 325 yards]

Mauril wrote:

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Lance: If I have the pounce ability and I charge with a lance, do my iterative lance attacks get the lance's extra damage multiplier from charging?

No, for two reasons.

One, because a lance only deals extra damage when you’re riding a charging mount—not when you are charging.

Two, even if you have an unusual combination of rules that allows you to ignore the above limitation, it doesn’t makes sense that those iterative attacks gain the damage bonus. To make that second attack, you have to pull the lance back and stab forward again, and that stab doesn’t have the benefit of the charge’s momentum. (The Core Rulebook doesn’t state that you only get the damage multiplier on the first attack with a lance because when the Core Rulebook was published, there was no way for a PC to charge and get multiple attacks with a weapon in the same round, so that combination didn’t need to be addressed.)

Also, depending on how high a level you are playing at, you'll want to make sure to get pounce or some other similar ability, but that's universally true for martial characters.

I honestly don't know if the second FAQ is saying that pounce and mounted charge work together or not. I completely confused.

[rorek55]

they do, but no spirited charge ( or normal charge) bonus off it.

[CWheezy]

Or at least, only on the first hit of the charge do you get it, at least for mounted skirmisher

[EsperMagic]

Can you fight with a lance while not mounted?

[rorek55]

yes, it works like any normal reach weapon.

[EsperMagic]

good to know..thats more money spent on one weapon than trying to have a second unmounted weapon

[lemeres]

rorek55 wrote:

yes, it works like any normal reach weapon.

Yeah, it is basically just a longspear with some juicy extra effects.

Anyway, in that line of thought, Combat reflexes is also nice to have on top of all that other stuff since you are still running around with a reach weapon. Why not turn yourself into a 25' across circle of pain while you are doing all that normal skewering? It at least gives you useful options for when you can't get a charge lane.

[Brotato]

EsperMagic wrote:

good to know..thats more money spent on one weapon than trying to have a second unmounted weapon

Just be a small lancer and you'll never have to worry about being unmounted. Medium sized mounts ftw.

[Driver 325 yards]

By the way, thanks.
You guys were very helpful.

[XMorsX]

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