Does a Ring of X-Ray Vision see through magical darkness?

[Expletive]

^Topic. What if you're trying to look into a box containing an object with deeper darkness cast on it. For that matter, what if there is no box? Could you still see 20ft through the darkness effect?

[Liam Warner]

Expletive wrote:

^Topic. What if you're trying to look into a box containing an object with deeper darkness cast on it. For that matter, what if there is no box? Could you still see 20ft through the darkness effect?

I'd say no, there's a difference between darkness (no light) and Darkness (the magical effect being radiated). You aren't just looking into a box with no light your looking into a box with magical darkness blocking your ability to see. Specifically see this from the deeper darkness descriptor . . .

Areas of dim light and darkness become supernaturally dark. This functions like darkness, but even creatures with darkvision cannot see within the spell's confines.

So if you can normally see in the dark deeper darkness prevents that therfore I'd rule it also prevents you seeing anything inside its radius with the ring of X-Ray vision (which only say's you can see normally in areas of no illumination) since it specifically states the radiated darkness prevents darkvision working whereas the spell regular darkness on the other hand states beings with that can see in its effects normally.

[aceDiamond]

I don't think you can see through darkness because darkness is not an object. But I would rule this as "You see naked people, but you don't know WHERE they are."

Isn't that 95% of the use of that item?

[Liam Warner]

aceDiamond wrote:

I don't think you can see through darkness because darkness is not an object. But I would rule this as "You see naked people, but you don't know WHERE they are."

Isn't that 95% of the use of that item?

For guy's certainly, another reason to have magical protections against scrying along with the dispel invisibility spells on bathrooms.

[aceDiamond]

Lead undergarments also help.

[Kayerloth]

No. Deeper Darkness is not "with the viewer seeing as if he were looking at something in normal light even if there is no illumination but a magical effect (as stated by Liam). Likewise if the object(s) within the box were rendered invisible you would not see it/them, though I'd probably say in this case if you could also use See Invisible then you would see the objects inside the box. So True Seeing plus X-ray vision and you'll see whatever is inside the box as long as you can 'penetrate' the solid material between you and the object(s) and no other magic is involved.

[Zhayne]

aceDiamond wrote:

I don't think you can see through darkness because darkness is not an object. But I would rule this as "You see naked people, but you don't know WHERE they are."

Isn't that 95% of the use of that item?

I think you're thinking of the Ring Of X-Rated Visions.

[Liam Warner]

Zhayne wrote:

aceDiamond wrote:

I don't think you can see through darkness because darkness is not an object. But I would rule this as "You see naked people, but you don't know WHERE they are."

Isn't that 95% of the use of that item?

I think you're thinking of the Ring Of X-Rated Visions.

Hmmm I remember one sheet of medical errors people sent round (real things doctors scribbled in a hurry that read differently) contained the phrase "Patient was examined, X-Rated and sent home."