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ok, if you recognize the name, you know who I'm talking about.
I've created an "Auntie" PC, and so far she is a great deal of fun to run. I'm just wondering if anyone else has one out there? anyone seen (or have) an "Auntie" Baltwin PC? want to compare notes?
Any suggestions?
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IIRC, I had mine statted up as a hedge witch with the healing patron and a taste for Oldlaw whiskey. She was Gilga's sister, Olga, because I didn't want to chance violating the Community Use policy.
She was mechanically sound, and she was fun for a scenario, but I decided she wasn't for me and retrained her before level 2.
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I have a character that was an orphan (as an older orphan since he is a tiefling) and was raised by Auntie Baltwin. He references her "wisdom" on many occasions.
His arcane bond is a hook hand, which he plans to eventually turn into a wizard hook. He lost his hand when prowling out one night trying to steal some fine liquor for a Szcarni gang but got caught. Since he had a young appearance, the Szcarni didn't kill him for trespassing, but instead "taught him a lesson" by removing one of his hands. Auntie Baltwin apologized for it and actually even gave him the hook hand as an apology, which he treasures to this day.
Even though he knows she has her flaws, he still looks up to her as a role model.
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I have a character that was an orphan and was raised by Auntie Baltwin. He references her "wisdom" on many occasions.
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why thank you! that was wonderful!
It's always nice to see one of my charges doing well in the world! Brings a tear to this old ladies eye... sniff.
You sould come around again sometime and visit!
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Did you wind up keeping the "sacred prostitute" idea? I thought that was kind of interesting.
By the way, I ran a game for Auntie recently and she was quite fond of using the "unnatural lust" spell. Using it to great effect upon one of the NPCs with the target of lust being a druid's large cat animal companion (the cat was not amused). Roleplaying gold. We had much fun with that one.
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Did you wind up keeping the "sacred prostitute" idea? I thought that was kind of interesting.
By the way, I ran a game for Auntie recently and she was quite fond of using the "unnatural lust" spell. Using it to great effect upon one of the NPCs with the target of lust being a druid's large cat animal companion (the cat was not amused). Roleplaying gold. We had much fun with that one.
yeah, my younger years in the temple gave me my training in Diplomacy ...
and I assure you that mook would not have done that if he had not already been a
....Auntie cast Unnatural Lust on a Mook in the fight - sending him after the Druids Big Cat companion... He scrambles over it and hugs said kitty, and she then slumber hexed him... so, this means that later, when he wakes up, he remembers having unnaturally lustful thoughts (and actions), before he blacked out. Only to come to some time later (we searched him while he as asleep), with his clothing in dis-array, with a happy lion sitting next to him purring.
Yah... what happens in Almas, stays in Almas...
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Oh man, the looks on my players faces when I introduced them to Auntie Baldwin. Pure gold. I can only imagine what a PFS character would be like for the whole scenario.
Come to St. Louis and run a game for me! I'll even see if I can round up some other players. You wont mind if they are kids right? or some of those "little adults"? An after noon game over tea and cookies! just the thing.
(glances around at the other players)
anyone have a bottle opener, like for a bottle of beer?
(receiving a nod, excepting bottle opener)
anyone have a glass or something to drink a beer from?
(a glass is produced)
now, anyone have a bottle of beer?
(big grin)
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Nothing is wrong for an Auntie to join the Pathfinders.
Moi, has had a very successful career as a pathfinder.
You go Auntie!
Yours Truly,
Aunty Mei,
Seeker of the Society
Matchmaker & Marriage Broker
(OOC: My Aunty Mei is a grappler Barbarian with some notoriety among local PFS players. Does not help that she is a dude in drag... :P)
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Oh man, the looks on my players faces when I introduced them to Auntie Baldwin. Pure gold. I can only imagine what a PFS character would be like for the whole scenario.Come to St. Louis and run a game for me! I'll even see if I can round up some other players. You wont mind if they are kids right? or some of those "little adults"? An after noon game over tea and cookies! just the thing.
(glances around at the other players)
anyone have a bottle opener, like for a bottle of beer?
(receiving a nod, excepting bottle opener)
anyone have a glass or something to drink a beer from?
(a glass is produced)
now, anyone have a bottle of beer?
(big grin)
I see what you did there...nanny Ogg
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I see what you did there...nanny OggOh man, the looks on my players faces when I introduced them to Auntie Baldwin. Pure gold. I can only imagine what a PFS character would be like for the whole scenario.Come to St. Louis and run a game for me! I'll even see if I can round up some other players. You wont mind if they are kids right? or some of those "little adults"? An after noon game over tea and cookies! just the thing.
(glances around at the other players)
anyone have a bottle opener, like for a bottle of beer?
(receiving a nod, excepting bottle opener)
anyone have a glass or something to drink a beer from?
(a glass is produced)
now, anyone have a bottle of beer?
(big grin)
Nanny is another "good witch"... kind of like me! (big grin)
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First Steps 1 is an active scenario. A lot of players get to meet the NPCs there, perhaps after meeting your character.
If you want to claim that your PC is a twin sister of the NPC, or just a character much like her, that's okay. If you want to claim that your character actually is the character featured in a scenario, that would make my head hurt.
Ledford, even more so. "If he's an active Pathfinder, why is he ambushing Pathfinders in an alleyway?"
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First Steps 1 is an active scenario. A lot of players get to meet the NPCs there, perhaps after meeting your character.
If you want to claim that your PC is a twin sister of the NPC, or just a character much like her, that's okay. If you want to claim that your character actually is the character featured in a scenario, that would make my head hurt.
Ledford, even more so. "If he's an active Pathfinder, why is he ambushing Pathfinders in an alleyway?"
drat! I thought it was retired...
I'll have to ensure I don't play with starting PCs I guess. That way I can play with people who have met me before, before I "saw the light" and reformed ...(i.e. Discovered how much those pesky PF were getting paid to check up on my House. Clearly I know where the money is now, and it's not in watching orphans! So I changed my line of work...).
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nosig, that works ... okay ... in that order, from NPC to PC. But the active status of the adventure means that a player would be able to explore with the PC, and then encounter the NPC. And that doesn't make any sense.
Again, Ledford's twin, or clone? Someone who was inspired by Ledford and modeled his own career after him? Go for it. But if a player sat at my table intending to play, say, Grand Master Torch ("no, the real one") or Amara Li, or any other NPC in the campaign, I'd take them aside and explain that those characters aren't available to the player. They're reserved for the campaign staff.
Same with Ledford. He already has a role to play in the campaign, and it's not to adventure as a Pathfinder.
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"What about Kyra?"
There are a lot of players who got their start with playing a pre-gen, and kept the character, and are still going strong. Doesn't that violate something?
I remember the "Year of the Shadow Lodge" adventure. It was demonstrated that the Society owns an artifact that can split a person into multiple real copies of various levels. (That's how the bad guy ends up fighting each table.) I assume that Kyra, Ezren, et al got caught in this machine. That's why there are untold multiples of each character, at various experience levels.
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nosig, a player can start with a pre-gen in any Tier, and then play First Steps.
Part of my objection is philosophical. It's not a question of wrecking somebody else's game. It's a question of: I don't think someone should try to turn Torch, or Baron Jacquo Dalsine, or Drendle Dreng, or any other extablished NPC into their own character. Play Dreng's nephew, or one of Torch's half-orc guards, or Dalsine's body-double stand in. Likewise, I've seen PCs who are Baltwin's orphans, or one of the aasimar acolytes from inside the Hao-Jin tapestry. That builds the campaign's flavor into the PC's background without conscripting a memorable NPC for the player's private use.
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nosig, a player can start with a pre-gen in any Tier, and then play First Steps.
Part of my objection is philosophical. It's not a question of wrecking somebody else's game. It's a question of: I don't think someone should try to turn Torch, or Baron Jacquo Dalsine, or Drendle Dreng, or any other extablished NPC into their own character. Play Dreng's nephew, or one of Torch's half-orc guards, or Dalsine's body-double stand in. Likewise, I've seen PCs who are Baltwin's orphans, or one of the aasimar acolytes from inside the Hao-Jin tapestry. That builds the campaign's flavor into the PC's background without conscripting a memorable NPC for the player's private use.
I'm with Chris on this.
Paizo have already drawn a somewhat similar line with third-party adventures, etc. - you can use the generic Paizo setting, but you can't use Paizo's story-line. Basing a principal character on a featured contributor to one of Paizo's plots crosses that line, IMO.
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From a boring legal standpoint, verbatim from the title page of First Steps, Part I: In Service To Lore
Product Identity: The following items are hereby identified as Product Identity, as defined in the Open Game License version 1.0a, Section 1(e), and are not Open Content: All trademarks, registered trademarks, proper names (characters, deities, etc.), dialogue, plots, storylines, locations, characters, artwork, and trade dress. (Elements that have previously been designated as Open Game Content or are in the public domain are not included in this declaration.)
Open Content: Except for material designated as Product Identity (see above), the game mechanics of this Paizo Publishing game product are Open Game Content, as defined in the Open Gaming License version 1.0a Section 1(d). No portion of this work other than the material designated as Open Game Content may be reproduced in any form without written permission.
From a player POV, if we were all playing characters in the Star Trek Organized Play Campaign and you showed up with a character named Captain Kirk, Yeoman Rand or Lt. Stiles from Balance of Terror and claimed that your character was them, I would totally roll my eyes. If you showed up with a character like Cmdr. Peter Quincy Taggart, Lt. Tawny Madison or Guy Fleegman, who are inspired by or are heightened/parody versions of campaign NPCs, I would be totally into it.
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Yes. It clearly uses Paizo's IP, and as far as I can tell it does not fall under the type of permitted use covered by Paizo's Community Use Policy.
Under the CUP, you are allowed to "descriptively reference" characters from (some) Paizo products. That doesn't include developing whole new storylines featuring those characters.
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Yes. It clearly uses Paizo's IP, and as far as I can tell it does not fall under the type of permitted use covered by Paizo's Community Use Policy.
Under the CUP, you are allowed to "descriptively reference" characters from (some) Paizo products. That doesn't include developing whole new storylines featuring those characters.Sorry to take so long to respond to this.
ok, you caused me to worry about infringing on IP so I started checking, and found an earlier thread from someone else (Mystic Lemur , his was the second post in this thread) asking about this very issue. Here's a link to that thread.
Other Thread asking about an Auntie Baltwin PC.
three or four entries up from the linked entry from John Francis is the note from Mike Moreland that says in part....
"There's nothing in the rules explicitly forbidding making a PC named Gilga Baltwin and making her whatever you want her to be. You might consider using a different name, however, and just basing your character's concept on the established NPC to avoid confusion at the table with other players who find it hard to suspend disbelief (the same way a PC might find it hard to play with a PC named Drandle Dreng or Eliza Petulengro). "
having read this now from Mr. Moreland, I will in the future check with the other players at the table before playing this PC at a table, to be sure that the other players (and judge) will find her as enjoyable as those that have played with her so far.
I, on the other hand, will just sass people who have a problem with me until they recognize just how lucky they are to have me on hand.
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My apologies for the thread necro; I've never really been sure if posting a new thread with a similar topic is worse netiquette.
I currently have a GM Chronicle stack which I plan to use to create a witch PC. The only thing holding me back at this stage is a worthwhile backstory for the character, but running Feast of Ravenmoor at a convention this weekend gave me a burst of inspiration.
By the way, if you haven't played or run Feast of Ravenmoor, you should do something about that. I really need to make time to write a review and find some way to give the adventure seven stars.
As such, I'm figuring that Grym (the PC to whom I'm applying the Feast of Ravenmoor Chronicle) ended up rescuing her from the village -- that she was duped by her parents into the ambush encounter described in the module. Since Grym's backstory involves being part of a Varisian nomad caravan, he escorted her to them after the adventure's conclusion. However, her proximity to the events in Ravenmoor attracted the attention of something, and she ends up following Grym to Absalom in the hope that the Society and Tahonikepsu can sever the connection to whatever is haunting her dreams.
Does that seem reasonable?
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First of all, I want thank all the Pathfinders who helped my uncle with his sleepwalking problem. He's doing much better thanks to all of you (gorgous green haired, green freckled aasimar girl kisses said characters on the cheek).
Secondly, I'd like to say that characters like me are as about as close as we should get to converting npcs to pcs for the reason that npcs sometimes show up again. Take my friend Junia, (or 'j' as she likes to be called) who I met on my last adventure. It was seven years between her appearances and my player definately considered making a pc Junia but decided characters like me, or their Bone Oracle who Zyphus 'met' attending some Opera in Oppara are about as close as we should come to having pcs based on npcs/events in game.
Hope that was helpful. Hopefully we'll seeing you all around a gaming table real soon.
Elinee Thesalaki Kalkamendes