Price on caster's shield


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I was looking at a caster's shield because I want to keep Breath of Life handy w/o preparing it every day. I don't really need a +3 shield, so I wanted to see what the price of the scroll ability was.

The caster's shield can hold a third level spell and costs 31153 gold indicating that the scroll ability is 2,000 gold for up to a 3rd level spell. The greater caster's shield is 10,153 indicating that the cost for a 5th level scroll is only 1,000 gp.

Am I missing something obvious, or was this a completely arbitrary pricing set to the shield?


As a follow up question, what do you think would be a fair price for a +1 shield that can hold a 5th level spell?


It certainly seems like they weren't consistent.
It also look like the greater version only appears in UE? If that's the case, I'm not overly surprised that an item from the CRB wasn't consulted thoroughly before making the new one.

What other items offer similar abilities?
Spell Storing is all that's coming to my mind. But (Spell level)^2 *2k is way too much for what the shield does. I'm not sure how to finagle the mathematics though.
Mimicking the weapon enchant is another way to go, but figuring it as a +1(or more) bonus also seems a bit steep.

What it does:
A single spell (up to X level)
using spell completion (must provide M/F/DF at time of casting)
scribed at half price (presumably for the reusable scroll?)

Possible methods
1. only spell level -> (2000 / 3^2) * 5^2 = 5556
2. scroll cost -> 375 *5 = 1875 ~=2000 -> 1125 *5 = 5625 (x5 can be viewed as "scribe cost x10" to represent reuse)
3. spell level * caster level -> (2000 / 3*5) * 5*9 = 6000
4. some mix of everything -> 3^2 *200 + 1/2(375) = 1988 ~= 2000 -> 5^2 *200 + 1/2(1125) = 5563

Alternatively, say it's a "fixed cost" for the half price scribing, then figure in the price of a scroll in some multiple.
5. 375 + 1625 -> 1125 + 1625 = 2750
6. 750 + 1250 -> 2250 + 1250 = 3500
etc

I suppose fractional calculations are also available. If you peg the fixed cost at 1500, a 5th level version would be 3000.

My opinion is that it's one of the squared formulas. Likely, you could get away with (spell level)^2 *200. (I suspect this is where the greater's "1000" comes from, they forgot the squared element. Additionally, it puts the standard version at 1800, which is very close to 2000.) Otherwise, pick your favorite or offer some different math.


My goal is to convince the rest of the party to put determination on one piece of armor so i don't have to cast breath of life when they die.

Silver Crusade

My Evangelist Battle Cleric of Shelyn just bites the bullet and always carries Breath of Life. Sure, you miss out on a great 5th level spell, but at least you have the emergency healing thing covered. Not even a Life Oracle can save an ally from -30 HP. I always tell the party, "I'm not a healer cleric", so they are pleasantly surprised when Breath of Life comes out.


I'm beginning to think a normal scroll, a normal shield, and a glue stick might be the solution....

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