Undead Anatomy III and Atomie Lich


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Would you be able to take the form of an Atomie Lich using Undead Anatomy III?

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Technically can't because of the polymorph restriction of sizes but well if you are the DM...do whatever is appropriately dramatic.


Eltacolibre wrote:
Technically can't because of the polymorph restriction of sizes but well if you are the DM...do whatever is appropriately dramatic.

Polymorph restriction of sizes?


AHHH I answered my own question.

PRD wrote:
Polymorph spells cannot be used to assume the form of a creature with a template or an advanced version of a creature.

So lich would not work. Lich is an acquired template. Good to know!


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OK, so I did some thinking about this. I think the entire undead anatomy spell line is a bit weird.

So it turns out zombies and skeletons are also templates applied to a base creature. Technically speaking, you shouldn't be able to polymorph to those creatures ever. However, undead anatomy I says (bold for emphasis)

PRD wrote:
When you cast this spell, you can assume the form of any Small or Medium corporeal creature of the undead type, which must be vaguely humanoid-shaped (like a ghoul, skeleton, or zombie).

So perhaps the spell is saying that there's an exception to the rules for polymorphing. You can assume *any* undead creature. . . including those with templates. . . as long as they're vaguely humanoid shaped. There are a number of templated undead creatures, so this opens the door for lich, juju zombie, skeletal champion, penanggalen, graveknight, jiang-shi, and vampire.


Well. . . shoot.

PRD Beast Shape wrote:
When you cast this spell, you can assume the form of any Small or Medium creature of the animal type.
PRD Alter Self wrote:
When you cast this spell, you can assume the form of any Small or Medium creature of the humanoid type.

The same text is in all these spells |:

I don't know. The entire spell line seems to be broken. If you can't do skeleton, zombie, lich, juju zombie, skeletal champion, penanggalen, graveknight, jiang-shi, and vampire. . . you're going to miss out on a lot of the functionality.

Bleh.

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