I'm not sure where you get that level of inflation. Every source I've see shows the minimum wage peaked in 1968 at $1.60, which would be ~$10.77 in today's dollars.
1945's was $0.40, which is well below today's in real dollars.I could easily be persuaded that the standard measures of inflation understate it, but by almost 10 times?
Why not tie it to real productivity instead?
Nothing is too good for the working class!
Fight for $45/hour!
Vive le Galt!
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Comrade Anklebiter, could we make it $54.40 or fight? It might make it easier to remember for the history buffs...
Not my phrasing ...Yep. You have no idea what you are talking about. I too can post
paper after paper with "empirical evidence" to support my point -- this is called politics.You need to learn to think for yourself.
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I have a number of nobel laureates on my side ...
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Real Nobel laureates? And, they're on your side? One could imagine
your parents are so proud of you. Btw, you should do whatever they say
without question (like bending over.)
( amazing. ::shakeshead )
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A Nobel Prize winning economist would not disagree with anything I've said.
3.
I'm not sure how I feel about enumeration, but I'll roll with it for a while.
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$54.40 and a Union or Fight!
[Makes a list of all the cool new things I'm gonna buy]
No interest in improving the minimum wage?No interest in wasting our time. White House petitions are a true waste of time because the power to do anything about the minimum wage rests with Congress, not the President. Writing your Congressman is simmilarly a fruitless endeavour when we see Congressman voting against what over 70 percent of their constituency favors because they are in thrall to the folks who write fat campaign donation checks.
In addition to that, to call the presentation of your presentation on the White House site, sophomoric would be an act of insulting sophomores everywhere.
And yet you had enough time to waste to write a post to Yellowdingo...
True dat.
For $54.40/hour, a union and a 30-hour work week or fight!
Not my phrasing ...Yep. You have no idea what you are talking about. I too can post
paper after paper with "empirical evidence" to support my point -- this is called politics.You need to learn to think for yourself.
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I have a number of nobel laureates on my side ...
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1.
Real Nobel laureates? And, they're on your side? One could imagine
your parents are so proud of you. Btw, you should do whatever they say
without question (like bending over.)( amazing. ::shakeshead )
2.
A Nobel Prize winning economist would not disagree with anything I've said.3.
I'm not sure how I feel about enumeration, but I'll roll with it for a while..
Goalposts to be changed shortly.
I highly doubt your claim that 0 Nobel Prize winning economists would support an increase in the minimum wage.[/url]
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Why do I care if you highly doubt things? Ooooh. You're going to link
more articles at me of things you can't do for yourself. Interesting ...
Learn to think for yourself.
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You made the claim that no Nobel Prize economist would disagree with anything you've said.
Do you want to go ahead and admit you were incorrect? Or try to disguise that fact with more blather? Because your statement was clearly incorrect.
True dat.
For $54.40/hour, a union and a 30-hour work week or fight!
$1000.00/hour and a 1-hour work week, with 5 weeks paid vacation.
You made the claim that no Nobel Prize economist would disagree with anything you've said.
Ah! But you said:
I highly doubt your claim that 0 Nobel Prize winning economists would support an increase in the minimum wage
YOU MOVED THE GOAL POSTS! That's not what I said. (You did the 1-<contrary> move, and you got caught.)
Do you want to go ahead and admit you were incorrect? Or try to
disguise that fact with more blather? Because you clearly MOVED THE GOAL POSTS.
And now you're a hypocrite.
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Edit: I've defeated you too many times. I'm done with you.
You're going to have to break that down for me.
You made a claim. I showed that your claim was incorrect.
Feel free to dispute either of those facts.
You're going to have to break that down for me.
You made a claim. I showed that your claim was incorrect.
Feel free to dispute either of those facts.
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fyi, feigning ignorance is the standard "i just got my ass kicked" signal.
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Why do I care if you highly doubt things? Ooooh. You're going to link
more articles at me of things you can't do for yourself. Interesting ...Learn to think for yourself.
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He was simply providing evidence, troll. Look into it.
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I like Economics. It's good stuff. Fun stuff. Also, I've come to
realize the Minimum Wage Laws are Socialism in disguise. I didn't
realize this until you guys pointed it out so desperately.
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I like Economics. It's good stuff. Fun stuff. Also, I've come to
realize the Minimum Wage Laws are Socialism in disguise. I didn't
realize this until you guys pointed it out so desperately..
Bored now. Go troll another thread.
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I like Economics. It's good stuff. Fun stuff. Also, I've come to
realize the Minimum Wage Laws are Socialism in disguise. I didn't
realize this until you guys pointed it out so desperately..
Dude, I could of told you that.
$54.50 or Fight!
Vive le Galt!
(See, IT? I can do incrementalist, too.)
He provided evidence that refuted your claims.
When?
Let me go back to enumeration:
1. No nobel winning economist will disagree with what I've said.
2. I'm certain a nobel winning economist could support raising the minimum wage -- no doubt in my mind.
3. Hurray for Public School
4. that guy did MOVE THE GOAL POSTS ! ah hahaahahahaa...
5. I think we have sock-puppets in play.
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Bored now. Go troll another thread..
I like Economics. It's good stuff. Fun stuff. Also, I've come to
realize the Minimum Wage Laws are Socialism in disguise. I didn't
realize this until you guys pointed it out so desperately..
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Look, I can do it too: Bored now. Go troll another thread.
WAIT!! Why don't you *start* an interesting thread.
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Edit: are you a sock puppet?
Great link.
He provided evidence that refuted your claims.When?
Let me go back to enumeration:
1. No nobel winning economist will disagree with what I've said.
2. I'm certain a nobel winning economist could support raising the minimum wage -- no doubt in my mind.
3. Hurray for Public School
4. that guy did MOVE THE GOAL POSTS ! ah hahaahahahaa...
5. I think we have sock-puppets in play.
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I'm still waiting for you to point out which goal post I moved.
As far as I'm aware, I'm just working off the one you set, where you claimed that no Nobel Prize economist would disagree with anything you said.
Edit: I guess I could have gone with the "anything" to mean anything ever, regardless of context or location, but that wasn't my intent. I'm only referencing things you've said in this thread.
I'm still waiting for you to point out which goal post I moved.
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It's up there in my post. What you're doing now is delaying, because your in pain. (It's a normal human reaction.)
Please, don't start saying you can't read anymore...
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YOU'RE A GOAL POST MOVER. <-- my new nickname for you.
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I think Michelle Obama should get a Nobel Prize for Separating Two Fools Who Can't Not Do Selfies and Clown off at Nelson Mandela's Funeral.Talk about your Dane Bramage.....
Helle Thorning-Schmidt is pretty hawt for a Stooge of the Plutocracy.
$1000.00/hour and a 1-hour work week, with 5 weeks paid vacation.True dat.
For $54.40/hour, a union and a 30-hour work week or fight!
Vive le Galt!
I'm still waiting for you to point out which goal post I moved..
It's up there in my post. What you're doing now is delaying, because your in pain. (It's a normal human reaction.)
Please, don't start saying you can't read anymore...
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YOU'RE A GOAL POST MOVER. <-- my new nickname for you.
No, you didn't. You dissed public schools. You mentioned how much you like Economics. You accused people of being sock puppets. You accused me of moving the goalposts.
You did not actually articulate how I moved the goal posts.
Now, I mentioned that you would move the goal posts. Since I predicted it, I will go ahead and highlight where it happened.
1. No nobel winning economist will disagree with what I've said.
2. I'm certain a nobel winning economist could support raising the minimum wage -- no doubt in my mind.
What was nice was you even recapped your earlier point and then immediately backtracked as if you had intended it all along. You've made the claim that the minimum wage is bad for the economy. You've made the claim that no Nobel Prize winning Economist would disagree with anything you said. I linked an article where 7 Nobel Prize economists disagree with your stance on minimum wage.
You should make some more snide comments about my critical thinking skills and/or public education, it will show off your superior logic and debate skills. Or maybe just another appeal to hypocrisy.
Bad Irontruth! Don't feed the troll.
Eh, Grand Magus is going to post regardless of responses. He has to educate us, because evidently public schools didn't.
Eh, Grand Magus is going to post regardless of responses. He has to educate us, because evidently public schools didn't.
Also, I may be your sock puppet. All this time and I never knew...
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Eh, Grand Magus is going to post regardless of responses. He has to educate us, because evidently public schools didn't.Also, I may be your sock puppet. All this time and I never knew...
Lucky for you I'm not a member of the RHCP.
Lucky for you I'm not a member of the RHCP.
I am now officially traumatized. Thank you for that. :)
WAIT!! Why don't you *start* an interesting thread.As if you're one to complain.
Oh, GM and yd threads are always interesting. As are Marx Brothers movies, and for roughly the same reason. Absurdist humor is often fascinating.
You're almost as whacked out in your analsysis as Dingo is in the threads he starts.
Not nearly as funny though.
See? I knew you loved Comrade Dingo.
Din-go! Din-go! Din-go!
I propose we raise the minimum level of dingo.
What is the LD50 on dingo nuttiness anyway?
I'm unaware of any reported deaths yet, despite an exposure measured in.... well, I think he got three votes for one of his petitions once. So that would be measured in,... three.
Hey thanks for the info Irontruth, It was interesting reading. While i don't have anything to add that wouldn't be redundant, other than my support for an increase in the minimum wage, I would like to say I find the repetition of "learn to think for yourself" and similar refrains to be the fallback position of those for whom the evidence does not support.