Wait, HOW many bloodlines do you have?


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First off, let me preface this by saying this build is probably too ludicrous to use as a pc, but could make for a memorable NPC if he gets a chance for some dialog before the combat happens.

Half-Elf Paladin2/Oracle3/DragonDisciple4/___2
Traits: Magical Knack (Oracle);
Lv01 Pal: Power Attack; Skill Focus: Knowledge: Planes
Lv02 Pal:
Lv03 Ora: Racial Heritage: Kobold; Nature Mystery; Nature's Whispers
Lv04 Ora:
Lv05 Ora: Scaled Disciple
Lv06 DrD:
Lv07 DrD:
Lv08 DrD:
Lv09 DrD: Eldritch Heritage (Abyssal)
Lv10 ___:
Lv11 ___: Improved Eldritch Heritage
Aim for Cha > Str > Con > everything else. You're going to be rocking a massive boost to Str from the DD levels and IEH.

The level 7 feat, Curse, Ora3 revelation, second trait, and which class you take at 10 and 11 are left open to do as you will. You could go paladin for those 2 levels then go back into oracle, maybe grabbing oath of vengeance. You could make this an antipaladin instead, focus on all that CE glory. 4 more levels of DD wouldn't be bad I think. I like the haunted curse for the extra spells known, but tongues or others could be good too.

What would you do with this build?
Can you make one with even more heritages? This one boasts Human, Elf, Kobold, Dragon, and Demon.

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well... you wouldn't gain any additional racial benefits from it, but an elvish aasimar with scion of humanity would have elf, celestial, human, kobold, and fiend...

the angelkin aasimar in particular has the perfect stat adjustments for that build- though you would lose the free skill focus, and paragon surge


Something that was pointed out to me was that you can add more heritages in there by taking bloodrager or arcanist. Or possibly crossblooded sorcerer draconic/X.

For the first 5 levels, you can potentially do paladin 4/oracle 1, keeping the feats at the same levels.

Sczarni

Can you qualify for bloatmage before level 10?

If you can get the bloatmage capstone ability, you could (in theory) drink a pint of your own blood to gain all the bloodline powers of any bloodline you qualify for. For this build, you could pick Abyssal, Draconic, Kobold, Imperious, Celestial (since you're a paladin), probably Arcane (since you're a spellcaster)...

Not that any GM I know would let someone get away with that, but...


A human with the Focused Study alt. trait can get another skill focus at 8th level. If you push Eldritch heritage (abyssal) up to lvl 7, you can take a second Eldritch heritage at lvl 9, maybe Serpent, for the bite attack? That would fit pretty decently with the Anti Paladin idea as well, with the poison.

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revaar wrote:
A human with the Focused Study alt. trait can get another skill focus at 8th level. If you push Eldritch heritage (abyssal) up to lvl 7, you can take a second Eldritch heritage at lvl 9, maybe Serpent, for the bite attack? That would fit pretty decently with the Anti Paladin idea as well, with the poison.

you cannot take more than one eldritch heritage. no feat can be taken more than once unless it specifically says it can- eldritch heritage does not make that allowance.


I'm not sure, but can u qualify for dragon disciple with oracle (i thought it only works with sorceror w/ dragon bloodline, and bard


nate lange wrote:
revaar wrote:
A human with the Focused Study alt. trait can get another skill focus at 8th level. If you push Eldritch heritage (abyssal) up to lvl 7, you can take a second Eldritch heritage at lvl 9, maybe Serpent, for the bite attack? That would fit pretty decently with the Anti Paladin idea as well, with the poison.
you cannot take more than one eldritch heritage. no feat can be taken more than once unless it specifically says it can- eldritch heritage does not make that allowance.

Really? Crap, I thought it said you could take it more than once. Well, crap...


aasimar scion of humanity with racial heritage (lets say ratfolk for fun), an EH line, and goes into the crossblooded sorcerer AT and levels in bloodrager.

wear a Robe of Arcane Heritage and watch it go nuts.

or as above, focused study human with racial heritage, three EH bloodlines, two sorcerer bloodlines, and a bloodrager bloodline.


Snow_Tiger wrote:
I'm not sure, but can u qualify for dragon disciple with oracle (i thought it only works with sorceror w/ dragon bloodline, and bard

Scaled Disciple lets one qualify for DD with spontaneous divine casting classes. However normally it's only available to kobolds, thus racial heritage. Half-elves can take racial heritage because they count as humans.

AndIMustMask wrote:

aasimar scion of humanity with racial heritage (lets say ratfolk for fun), an EH line, and goes into the crossblooded sorcerer AT and levels in bloodrager.

wear a Robe of Arcane Heritage and watch it go nuts.

or as above, focused study human with racial heritage, three EH bloodlines, two sorcerer bloodlines, and a bloodrager bloodline.

Sadly Eldritch Heritage can't be taken multiple times. Everything else is fun though.


Ooh, I just remembered, the bloodline traits from ultimate campaign.

Half-elf (or other half human, including aasimar with scion of humanity)
racial heritage
elritch heritage
crossblooded sorcerer
bloodline trait

possibly bloodrager, if they drop the 'no multiclassing with the parent classes' bit from the hybrid classes.
=7or8 different bloodlines. You are Mongrel Man, defender of the weak.


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You can do better than that.

Dhampir based Aasimar, Scion of Humanity Crossblooded Sorcerer (Draconic/Orc?) 1/Paladin 2/Dragon Disciple X with Racial Heritage Half-Elf, Eldritch Heritage (Abyssal? Elemental would be pretty boss too), and Adopted (Catfolk, perhaps?)

You are now part:

Human
Vampire
Celestial
Dragon
Orc
Elf
Abyssal/Elemental

Who was raised by Catfolk (or the race of your choice).

Replace with the Kobold one if you really want the Oracle stuff.


Darigaaz the Igniter wrote:
Snow_Tiger wrote:
I'm not sure, but can u qualify for dragon disciple with oracle (i thought it only works with sorceror w/ dragon bloodline, and bard

Scaled Disciple lets one qualify for DD with spontaneous divine casting classes. However normally it's only available to kobolds, thus racial heritage. Half-elves can take racial heritage because they count as humans.

AndIMustMask wrote:

aasimar scion of humanity with racial heritage (lets say ratfolk for fun), an EH line, and goes into the crossblooded sorcerer AT and levels in bloodrager.

wear a Robe of Arcane Heritage and watch it go nuts.

or as above, focused study human with racial heritage, three EH bloodlines, two sorcerer bloodlines, and a bloodrager bloodline.

Sadly Eldritch Heritage can't be taken multiple times. Everything else is fun though.

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Quote:

Prerequisites: Cha 13, Skill Focus with the class skill of bloodline selected for this feat (see below), character level 3rd.

Benefit: Select one sorcerer bloodline. You must have Skill focus in the class skill that bloodline grants to a sorcerer at 1st level (for example, Heal for the celestial bloodline). This bloodline cannot be a bloodline you already have. You gain the first-level bloodline power for the selected bloodline. For purposes of using that power, treat your sorcerer level as equal to your character level – 2, even if you have levels in sorcerer. You do not gain any of the other bloodline abilities.

i see nothing here about not being able to take more than one--only that you have to choose a different bloodline (one that you dont already have) for every one. long as you got the cha and skill focuses i'm not seeing the issue.


AndIMustMask wrote:
i see nothing here about not being able to take more than one--only that you have to choose a different bloodline (one that you dont already have) for every one. long as you got the cha and skill focuses i'm not seeing the issue.

While it's true that there's no rule that prevents you from taking a feat more than once, there is a rule that says you can't benefit from the same feat more than once unless it's explicitly spelled out in the feat description.

Quote:
Benefit: What the feat enables the character (“you” in the feat description) to do. If a character has the same feat more than once, its benefits do not stack unless indicated otherwise in the description.

Nowhere in the Eldritch Heritage description does it have any qualifications for taking it more than once. So if you take it more than once, you don't gain anything from it beyond what you gained the first time.


AndIMustMask wrote:


i see nothing here about not being able to take more than one--only that you have to choose a different bloodline (one that you dont already have) for every one. long as you got the cha and skill focuses i'm not seeing the issue.

It's a general rule that Feats can't be taken more than once unless they specifically say they can.

Eldritch Heritage does not say it can be.


This thread gives me 3.5 flashbacks...


Rynjin wrote:

It's a general rule that Feats can't be taken more than once unless they specifically say they can.

Eldritch Heritage does not say it can be.

I just tried looking for that rule in the PRD, and I didn't see it. What I did see was the rule saying that taking a feat more than once is pointless unless the feat has some special qualifier.

It makes for the same general concept since there's no mechanical benefit for taking most feats more than once, but it allows players to make the really stupid decision of doing it anyway.

Silver Crusade

Here's a REALLY GOOD example...

Fleet

You are faster than most.

Benefit: While you are wearing light or no armor, your base speed increases by 5 feet. You lose the benefits of this feat if you carry a medium or heavy load.

Special: You can take this feat multiple times. The effects stack.

Notice that Special? Does your feat in question have that wording?


Should be named Mutt.

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