Anybody else kind of impressed by how much it looks like the paizo Baphomet?Since Paizo drew from classic demonology and mythology for his depiction it would be kinda hard not to.
Second star to the right and strait on till morning. You know, like star trek.
Which is really the only reason I was worried about him having a shirt. Having seen the design now, I'm cool with it. It's not lewd, it's not trashy.
I don't want to start a debate with ya, but I will say that I don't feel that nudity, especially in art, is automatically "lewd" or "trashy" :)
Which is really the only reason I was worried about him having a shirt. Having seen the design now, I'm cool with it. It's not lewd, it's not trashy.I don't want to start a debate with ya, but I will say that I don't feel that nudity, especially in art, is automatically "lewd" or "trashy" :)
I disagree on the lewd. But the trashy was in reference to the construction being poor, or otherwise being a bad-looking piece of public display.
I disagree on the lewd. But the trashy was in reference to the construction being poor, or otherwise being a bad-looking piece of public display.Which is really the only reason I was worried about him having a shirt. Having seen the design now, I'm cool with it. It's not lewd, it's not trashy.I don't want to start a debate with ya, but I will say that I don't feel that nudity, especially in art, is automatically "lewd" or "trashy" :)
Ah, yeah, there certainly is trashy public art out there.
All the same, I find the Venus De Milo and Statue of David to be incredible pieces of work despite their "lewdity" :)
The problem is that it is a courthouse, not the legislative house. The 10 commandments would be more appropriate there. They are the basis of laws, not the legal system. A more appropriate statue for a courthouse would be of the Norse god of justice. Our legal system, jury by peers etc., came out of that, not out of Judeo-Christianity.Taking religion out of it, the 10 commandments are at least law-related.
But I'm with Penn on this one. Public property is no place for this stuff. You want to display? But some land and put it there.
Tyr, right? Somebody has got to get a state of him in front of the courthouse.
Also, it seems to me that you can have an Islamic statue without depicting Muhammad. If they can decorate a mosque, they can probably decorate some selected quotes from a Qur'an translation. The 10 commandments are basically text on a block of stone, so why couldn't Muslims also carve some text into a block of stone?
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The problem is that it is a courthouse, not the legislative house. The 10 commandments would be more appropriate there. They are the basis of laws, not the legal system. A more appropriate statue for a courthouse would be of the Norse god of justice. Our legal system, jury by peers etc., came out of that, not out of Judeo-Christianity.Taking religion out of it, the 10 commandments are at least law-related.
But I'm with Penn on this one. Public property is no place for this stuff. You want to display? But some land and put it there.
Tyr, right? Somebody has got to get a state of him in front of the courthouse.
Also, it seems to me that you can have an Islamic statue without depicting Muhammad. If they can decorate a mosque, they can probably decorate some selected quotes from a Qur'an translation. The 10 commandments are basically text on a block of stone, so why couldn't Muslims also carve some text into a block of stone?
Writing is the only type illustration okay in Islam, that and patterns.
Writing is the only type illustration okay in Islam, that and patterns.The problem is that it is a courthouse, not the legislative house. The 10 commandments would be more appropriate there. They are the basis of laws, not the legal system. A more appropriate statue for a courthouse would be of the Norse god of justice. Our legal system, jury by peers etc., came out of that, not out of Judeo-Christianity.Taking religion out of it, the 10 commandments are at least law-related.
But I'm with Penn on this one. Public property is no place for this stuff. You want to display? But some land and put it there.
Tyr, right? Somebody has got to get a state of him in front of the courthouse.
Also, it seems to me that you can have an Islamic statue without depicting Muhammad. If they can decorate a mosque, they can probably decorate some selected quotes from a Qur'an translation. The 10 commandments are basically text on a block of stone, so why couldn't Muslims also carve some text into a block of stone?
I meant to suggest decorating the quotes with some of those lovely tessellations as a background, sorry for the confusion.
And that was Electric Wizard's non-sequitur of the day folks! Tune in tomorrow for more adventures in complete nonsense!Where in the heck did you get the idea that the Ten Commandments are a purely Christian thing. They're right there in the Torah.The Burning Bush, of course.
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Didn't Moses get the 10 commandments after speaking to the burning bush?
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Chronologically yes......
The bush told him to go free the Hebrewites from Yul Brenner.
Man, that Baphomet, if it actually gets built.....you know how Sooners like breaking off Longhorns and all?
That statue's head will be in a frat house in Norman less than a month after it goes up.
And that was Electric Wizard's non-sequitur of the day folks! Tune in tomorrow for more adventures in complete nonsense!Where in the heck did you get the idea that the Ten Commandments are a purely Christian thing. They're right there in the Torah.The Burning Bush, of course.
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Didn't Moses get the 10 commandments after speaking to the burning bush?
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Chronologically yes......
The bush told him to go free the Hebrewites from Yul Brenner.
I can't resist...
If you are supposed to be able to sit in it, it should definitely have a fold of skin or hair or whatever that ends up in an uncomfortable place no matter how you sit. But yes, the situation is that it isn't going to survive for long, if ever built.
And a Cayden statue needs to pour cheap beer.
Thou shall not covet is kinda a pre-stop to larceny, and a whole bunch of other gimme! related stuff.It also undermines the american way of life, wanting material things and always striving to make more moneyOnly if you accept the premise that you're greedy wanting to keep or make your own money and buy your own things...
Being covetous is wanting other people's stuff to the point of discontent with your own, not going and working for your own.
To tack actions to improve your situation, you must be discontent with your current situation. So the very idea "american dream" is a statement of discontent.
Weither to go out and work for more, or go out and steal, to have more, is not a function of discontent (or covetousness), but rather, the options available to you as to how to deal with your desire to have the possession in question.
There's lots of demons, if they're going to build one in every city let's at least have some variance.
If they come to east Tennessee I call dibs on Agares. Yoda-like falconer riding a crocodile? Yes please.
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If you are supposed to be able to sit in it, it should definitely have a fold of skin or hair or whatever that ends up in an uncomfortable place no matter how you sit. But yes, the situation is that it isn't going to survive for long, if ever built.
And a Cayden statue needs to pour cheap beer.
As long as it isn't a fountain, I hate to think where the beer would be emitted from.
What has this devolved into exactly?
And that was Electric Wizard's non-sequitur of the day folks! Tune in tomorrow for more adventures in complete nonsense!Where in the heck did you get the idea that the Ten Commandments are a purely Christian thing. They're right there in the Torah.The Burning Bush, of course.
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Didn't Moses get the 10 commandments after speaking to the burning bush?
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.Chronologically yes......
The bush told him to go free the Hebrewites from Yul Brenner.
that shifty Yul Brenner!!!
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The Church of Satan now has funding for their monument. As does the Hindu group sponsoring a Lord Hanamun statue. Both have OK City citizens requesting representation of their faith but outside sources of funding.
If one monument for [insert a religion] goes up, then any others should go up. Personally, the monuments belong on private property and the secular govt grounds should be free of religion bias. The bible doesn't belong in the courtroom anymore than the koran or torah; rumors of christian/judeo nation building notwithstanding.
Woo hoo!
Back on topic:
The Church of Satan now has funding for their monument. As does the Hindu group sponsoring a Lord Hanamun statue. Both have OK City citizens requesting representation of their faith but outside sources of funding.If one monument for [insert a religion] goes up, then any others should go up. Personally, the monuments belong on private property and the secular govt grounds should be free of religion bias. The bible doesn't belong in the courtroom anymore than the koran or torah; rumors of christian/judeo nation building notwithstanding.
No offense, but I disagree that religious symbols should not be allowed on public property. As long as preferential treatment is not given to one group over annother, I have no issues with things like nativity scenes being put up in public squares. The problems come with things like these 10 commandments, which got specific approval from the legislature to be put up without accommodations being made for other faiths.
Is nobody concerned about the guy saying "this is a faith-based state"?
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I think most of us have written him off as a nutjob who's been overridden.
Heh.