Godzilla (2014)


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I think there are worse choices then DiCaprio but the idea of a Godzilla movie getting an Oscar nod would be very interesting.

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Jaelithe wrote:

Could you just imagine Cranston Oscar-nominated—for Godzilla?

Or even better, G itself nominated for Best Picture?

I'd like to see Godzilla win for Best Actor, but I guess I'll just have to settle for this.


Odraude wrote:
Man, Godzilla getting an Oscar before Leonardo DiCaprio would be a travesty ;)

{casts contact other director} M. Night says the twist is DiCaprio is the dude wearing the rubber Godzilla suit. ;)

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This movie is sounding better with everything I learn about it...

Here's what is being reported as a description of Godzilla from the side of a box for an action figure for the movie:

"Possibly the last of an ancient species of giant amphibious creatures that evolved at a time when the surface of the Earth was over ten times more radioactive than it is today. Godzilla can convert his radiation stores into a violent, focused exhalation of atomic ray. Rarely seen, but spoken of in ancient Pacific Island myths, "Gojira" was last spotted in 1954, when the U.S. Navy encountered and attempted to kill him with an atomic blast in the Pacific Ocean. Since then, the giant creature has been living in the deep ocean – until a threat to his survival from an ancient foe forces him to reappear."

That last sentence gives me goosebumps.


Velcro Zipper wrote:

This movie is sounding better with everything I learn about it...

Here's what is being reported as a description of Godzilla from the side of a box for an action figure for the movie:

"Possibly the last of an ancient species of giant amphibious creatures that evolved at a time when the surface of the Earth was over ten times more radioactive than it is today. Godzilla can convert his radiation stores into a violent, focused exhalation of atomic ray. Rarely seen, but spoken of in ancient Pacific Island myths, "Gojira" was last spotted in 1954, when the U.S. Navy encountered and attempted to kill him with an atomic blast in the Pacific Ocean. Since then, the giant creature has been living in the deep ocean – until a threat to his survival from an ancient foe forces him to reappear."

That last sentence gives me goosebumps.

Oooo, nice if true.

Nice nod to the original, without mentioning the 'Oxygen Destroyer'.

Also (just to be safe)

Spoiler:
the name of Ken Watanabe's character: Daisuke Serizawa is the same name as the scientist from the original film who developed the oxygen destroyer.


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I just saw this. It was glorious. It really felt like Garth Edwards had a lot of love and respect for the source material. I don't want to spoil anything, so that's all I'm going to say. Just, glorious.

Actually I'll say one more thing. I love Bryan Cranston and Ken Watanabe.


Were did you see the movie?


I'm looking forward to this over Memorial Day weekend next week. I've never seen a movie that Ken Watanabe was in that I didn't really, really enjoy. When I realized he was in this, I felt pretty confident that it'd be a good film.

Not saying that he's the reason why, but just that he's been, in my experience, an indicator of goodness. =P


Dragon78 wrote:
Were did you see the movie?

Local cinema here in Canberra. Was opening night last night.

EDIT: Also just noticed that my earlier comment has a typo. Gareth Edwards, not Garth Edwards.

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Saw it last night on a Cinemark XD screen (IMAX Lite, essentially). It suffers from the same problems as any kaiju film - irritating humans, not enough monster fights.

Other than that, though (and maybe not enough Bryan Cranston), the movie just flat out rules. Go see it on the biggest, loudest screen you can find. Twice. Seriously, don't worry or wonder if you should maybe wait. Go ASAP, to the biggest, loudest screen you can find.

(Oh, and there's no stinger, so no need to sit through the credits if you don't want to.)


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Liked the people, liked the build up, liked the pay off. Tinkergoth said it better than me. Everything I hoped for.

Kvantum wrote:
the movie just flat out rules. Go see it on the biggest, loudest screen you can find. Twice. Seriously, don't worry or wonder if you should maybe wait. Go ASAP, to the biggest, loudest screen you can find.

Repeated for truth.

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Saw this on IMAX last night. If you're a lifelong fan, you owe it to the King of Monsters to see this on the biggest screen possible. Seeing him fully revealed, especially when he fights the Mutos, is awe-inspiring.

For anyone who's actually on the fence about seeing this, Godzilla radiates awesome. Gareth Edwards does a terrific job building up to the main event and I really hope this film makes the money it needs for him to do his own version of Destroy All Monsters. Godzilla totally sets up the possibility for there being more kaiju lurking across the planet, and I think Toho will be happy enough with this movie to let Legendary use more of their beasts.

Some notes about Godzilla:

If you pay attention to the opening credits, the names of the cast and crew are surrounded by text leaking clues about Godzilla. The text is quickly covered up by white lines like it's being redacted so you have to read fast to make it out. It's a really cool effect and a neat addition to the credits.

The Mutos are a great addition to the list of monsters in Godzilla's world, and their special attack is freakin' sweet. They reminded me of giant Madagascar hissing cockroaches.

spoiler:
It makes me wonder if the actual hissing roach crawling around Brody's dilapidated house was meant as subtle foreshadowing.

For the benefit of those who haven't seen it yet, all I'll say here is the audience I was with freaked out when they saw the blue light in the fog.

Bryan Cranston said in an interview that the poster in his son's bedroom at the beginning of the film showing two giant monsters fighting one another has the Kanji for "Let them fight!" written on it. By now most people will know those are the words Ken Watanbe says as Godzilla and the Mutos are converging on San Francisco. I don't read Japanese, but knowing that made the scene a little more awesome to me. It's like this kid's childhood fantasy of towering monsters beating the snot out of each other was becoming reality, and I can't approve of this enough.

Now I really want a T-shirt showing Godzilla and the Mutos with the words "Let them fight!" written between them done in the style of a Showa era Godzilla movie poster. This needs to be a thing.

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How is the 3D?

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Having recently seen it, all I can say about the 3D is; while not bad, it didn't really feel like it added much to the film, it seemed rather flat most of the time

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As in it still looked a 2D movie, or there was no in your face 3D (which is the kind of 3D I prefer)?

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No 3D in your face, a fair number of shots looked like they where in 2D, every now and then you'd get the monsters in the background, or what have you, but it was really tame 3D

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I'm seeing it with a bunch of friends Sunday. A couple want to see it in 3D. So we going 3D. Just wondering how it was thanks.


From what I heard, they were pretty much forced into doing the 3D conversion by the studio, but they filmed it with only 2D in mind. I chose 2D for that reason.

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The movie is good enough to see in both formats.

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I'm seeing it on Tuesday, but sadly I can't see it in IMAX it's starting too late in the day.


I'm going with two of my adult college age kids Sunday. Even the wife may come along :) Really looking forward to it.


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I loved it. Little too much human focus but it worked well to give you a real feel of what it would be like caught between giant monsters. Some really nice scenes where you get a view of the things from ground level and just realize who massive they are.

have to say when I saw that blue light starting up in the fog it brought a huge grin to my face as I said "Here we Go"

Did not disappoint in the slightest, really feel I got my $12 worth


Y'know, Serizawa got it exactly wrong. The Mutos are the apex predators. Unluckily for them, their prey animal is the kaiju equivalent of a hippopotamus: the most aggressive herbivore (or radiovore) in the world. :D

Godzilla: giant radioactive hippo.


Greylurker wrote:

I loved it. Little too much human focus but it worked well to give you a real feel of what it would be like caught between giant monsters. Some really nice scenes where you get a view of the things from ground level and just realize who massive they are.

have to say when I saw that blue light starting up in the fog it brought a huge grin to my face as I said "Here we Go"

Did not disappoint in the slightest, really feel I got my $12 worth

I loved it too.

And as for the blue light in the fog...that was also my 'I'm seeing this only because you've been obsessing on it' hubby's reaction. When my daughter said 'what?' his response: "He's charging up!"

I also liked that Serizawa always said "Gojiria" while the American military said "Godzilla".

Couple of issues:

1: Ford's "Heroes Exemption". DO NOT go anywhere with that man. You WILL die!
2: Um, so you've got a dormant critter that lives on radiation - where do you stash it? Right in the middle of a radioactive storehouse! And then you don't notice it waking up and digging it's way out of your supposedly secure storehouse.
3: I was looking forward to some of the scenes from the trailers: the pep talk before the jump and the trashed Statue of Liberty. Sigh... Never trust trailers.

But hey, it's a Godzilla movie, and it was true to the spirit of the original. Even the design of the big guy reminded me of that.

And yes, I have the original (dubbed) Japanese version and the original Raymond Burr American version. :)


I have more mixed feelings about this movie. Didn't hate it, but can't say I loved it. I admit I probably had too high an expectation for the movie:

Spoilers:

The Good :

Godzilla looked amazing...no attempt to Americanize him or make him more "realistic". He's a faithful adaptation of the Japanese monster we all know and love

Mutos made good monsters/opponents. The female reminded me a bit of cloverfield, I think because of the long stilt-like legs, but otherwise no complaints here.

Fights were pretty amazing, especially Godzilla's "finishing moves"

The Bad

A lot of the human plot is kind of bad. Bryan Cranston and Elizabeth Olson really are not given much to do, especially the latter. I am not sure if there were last minute rewrites, or concerns about making the storyline too complicated, but the plot really would have been better served if they had made Cranston and the other male leads completely unrelated and given them non-overlapping plotlines. It would have also required less disbelief that Cranston's son magically shows up everywhere the monsters do, or miraculously survives so many things.

Also, given that Olson's character was a nurse and stuck in a Kaiju over run territory, they could have actually done something with that.

I kept getting aggravated that everytime I thought we were going to get a monster fight...just as the fight started, they switched to the actors. I get monster cgi was probably expensive, but come on. Stop teasing me

The Ugly

Man, for a movie called Godzilla...there was barely any actual Godzilla. Instead movie was really about the Mutos; Godzilla just shows up to deal with them, with very little fanfare or intro. Honestly I was hoping we would get some solo city wrecking from the big guy, and they would hold off a movie or two before making him all heroic.

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As a huge Godzilla fan, this movie was bad. It was so... so bad. I mean, yeah, Godzilla was awesome, but he was barely onscreen, had no motivation, and he gets touted as the savior of humanity when, for all ANYONE knew, he was another monster that just wrecked the place.

The parts with Godzilla in them were awesome, but they kept getting cut over and OVER again to cut back to a bunch of bland people we didn't care about. The first 30 minutes of the movie were great, and the first reveal of Godzilla is fantastic, but the rest is so boring that the "payout" at the end does little more than whet your appetite. This movie is one giant tease that leaves you feeling unfulfilled.


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Davor wrote:

As a huge Godzilla fan, this movie was bad. It was so... so bad. I mean, yeah, Godzilla was awesome, but he was barely onscreen, had no motivation, and he gets touted as the savior of humanity when, for all ANYONE knew, he was another monster that just wrecked the place.

The parts with Godzilla in them were awesome, but they kept getting cut over and OVER again to cut back to a bunch of bland people we didn't care about. The first 30 minutes of the movie were great, and the first reveal of Godzilla is fantastic, but the rest is so boring that the "payout" at the end does little more than whet your appetite. This movie is one giant tease that leaves you feeling unfulfilled.

Ah well. To each their own. As a huge Godzilla fan myself, it was everything I wanted it to be. I liked the use of Godzilla as the savior/anti-hero, and thought it was pretty well clear that he was there to knock f*** out of the other monsters given that

Spoiler:
he gets up and walks back into the ocean once they're dead instead of running rampant through the city. They also made his motivation pretty clear, I thought. He may have saved humanity, but that was a side effect, his primary motive was to hunt down the MUTOs. He woke up because he heard their mating calls, and they're his prey.

I really enjoyed the slow build up to the big monster fights as well, and thought the teasing was very effective. Reminded me of watching Jaws, where you don't see the shark for a large part of the film, and the build up makes it so much better.

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But why did he hunt them down? If they were prey, why didn't he eat them? What about them made them prey, if he slept beneath the ocean for seemingly millions of years? Their radioactive nature? We know he was around in the 50s, and was apparently alive and kicking, and he was probably around before that.

I'm not arguing with what the movie SAYS happens, but they don't back it up well enough.

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Davor wrote:

As a huge Godzilla fan, this movie was bad. It was so... so bad. I mean, yeah, Godzilla was awesome, but he was barely onscreen, had no motivation, and he gets touted as the savior of humanity when, for all ANYONE knew, he was another monster that just wrecked the place.

The parts with Godzilla in them were awesome, but they kept getting cut over and OVER again to cut back to a bunch of bland people we didn't care about. The first 30 minutes of the movie were great, and the first reveal of Godzilla is fantastic, but the rest is so boring that the "payout" at the end does little more than whet your appetite. This movie is one giant tease that leaves you feeling unfulfilled.

I heard too many people saying exactly this. Honestly, I'm new to the Kaiju scene and all I care about is watching the giant monster. The details are less important to me. As such, I don't think I'll be watching this on the big screen, especially since Days of Future Past will start showing in less than a week, and that's a movie I'm SURE I'm watching at an IMax.


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Just got back from seeing this one and I liked it. I would give it 4 out of five stars, it just needs more Godzilla but that is a problem most of them have really.

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Saw it. Its was good, but WTF is it with movies like this always doing big fights obsured and in the dark?

Last year we got Pacific Rim, most of the fights were at at night or underwater. Then they do pretty much the same thing in Godzilla this year.

Say what you want about the Bay Transformers, but at least many of those fights are done in clear daylight.

Its like they are scared to do fights during the day.


Davor wrote:

But why did he hunt them down? If they were prey, why didn't he eat them? What about them made them prey, if he slept beneath the ocean for seemingly millions of years? Their radioactive nature? We know he was around in the 50s, and was apparently alive and kicking, and he was probably around before that.

I'm not arguing with what the movie SAYS happens, but they don't back it up well enough.

The Muto cocoons were found in a Godzilla skeleton.

To me, the implication is obvious, as I said above: Godzilla is the prey of the Muto larvae, and he was trying to kill the adults before they reproduced and their offspring swarmed and ate him.


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Davor wrote:

But why did he hunt them down? If they were prey, why didn't he eat them? What about them made them prey, if he slept beneath the ocean for seemingly millions of years? Their radioactive nature? We know he was around in the 50s, and was apparently alive and kicking, and he was probably around before that.

I'm not arguing with what the movie SAYS happens, but they don't back it up well enough.

The Muto cocoons were found in a Godzilla skeleton.

To me, the implication is obvious, as I said above: Godzilla is the prey of the Muto larvae, and he was trying to kill the adults before they reproduced and their offspring swarmed and ate him.

This is pretty much what Dr Serizawa said: the MUTOs were 'parasites' that fed on Godzilla- and other-type monsters, wiping out most of them.

They were natural enemies and Godzilla had to destroy them to survive.


CapeCodRPGer wrote:

Saw it. Its was good, but WTF is it with movies like this always doing big fights obsured and in the dark?

Last year we got Pacific Rim, most of the fights were at at night or underwater. Then they do pretty much the same thing in Godzilla this year.

Say what you want about the Bay Transformers, but at least many of those fights are done in clear daylight.

Its like they are scared to do fights during the day.

My understanding is that it's cheaper and easier to do giant monster CGI if you have the mosnters show them in a dark environment, versus a sunny day.

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Many of the early Japanese Godzilla movies were at night.

Saw it over the weekend. Give 3 1/2 stars.
I wished they would have shown more of the monster fights, even the human vs monster fighting.

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Spiral_Ninja wrote:

Spoiler:
I was looking forward to some of the scenes from the trailers: the pep talk before the jump and the trashed Statue of Liberty. Sigh... Never trust trailers.

Spoiler:
I wasn't looking for it, but the destroyed Statue of Liberty was probably the Las Vegas statue.

If anyone who read these spoilers and is still going to see the movie, look out for it and let us know.


I'll be seeing it again on the weekend probably, so I'll see if I can spot it.


6/10

Not terrible, but not remarkable. Glad I saw it on Monday morning for $5 instead of for full price and glad I skimped on the snacks.

I thought Zilla was cool in his scenes, but they were far too few and far between in a two hour movie. I felt like the human plot was boring and contrived, and the lack of any notable female characters in the entire movie got under my skin a bit (and it usually doesn't). Literally every female in the movie is an accessory to a male character, which is pathetic in this day and age. I'm not in favor of forcing female characters into a plot purely to be PC, but there was no reason that at least one major character couldn't have been female.

Cranston barely has a role.


I thought it was great, although I did notice the utter lack of females. However, as any true Godzilla fan knows, there is always a lame and generally useless human subplot going on in between awesome monster mayhem. And in American Godzilla movies, that human subplot has an older white guy grafted in to help us relate.

I liked the fakeout, they did a great job with Godzilla.


Wow.

Spoiler:
I thought:

  • both Cranston and Binoche mailed it in, with both chewing scenery and all-too-obviously there for the paycheck
  • Godzilla was blocky and his origin kind of insipid
  • Watanabe was one-note throughout
  • the enemy was tailor-made to allow Godzilla to be the lone force capable of stopping them, which seemed preposterously contrived and unlikely
  • the film's plot oddly reminiscent of the Gamera reboot
  • the king's breath weapon woefully underpowered
  • the younger pair of leads earnest if not wholly convincing

In all ... much better than I feared, but far less impressive than I'd hoped or the reviews led me to believe. Two-and-a-half stars out of four. (At least five and more likely ten other Godzilla films whip this one soundly.) It just ... wasn't that good.


And yet still a 100 times better then the 98 version;)

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There was no Godzilla movie in '98. There was a monster movie about Zilla, which some stupid Americans mistake for Godzilla. Zilla appeared in Godzilla: Final Wars, where the true Godzilla made short work of it.


I definitely enjoyed that movie. It had a lot of clever and original bits, two very likeable characters, and the action itself was, of course, superb. Not quite Pacific Rim levels, but I'd say they could be put in the same class without confusing the curve, if you understand me.

The camerawork in particular impressed me. It's been a while since I've seen an action movie where the cameraman wasn't either drunk or one-armed.

If we have to do ratings, I'd give it a pretty cheerful 7.9/10. It's no masterpiece, but it's a great, fun movie that was willing to take some real chances.

Evil Midnight Lurker wrote:
To me, the implication is obvious, as I said above: Godzilla is the prey of the Muto larvae, and he was trying to kill the adults before they reproduced and their offspring swarmed and ate him.

I think they wanted to leave it somewhat ambiguous. Godzilla seemed at times to possess some manner of sentience—the scientist guy (I'm not good with names) was espousing a kind of spiritual view of the creatures. I think we're supposed to be able to interpret it either way. Either Godzilla is a monster protecting itself, or it is legitimately some sort of custodian of nature.


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And yet still a 100 times better then the 98 version;)

Granted. :-)


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By the way, the two likeable characters were the Japanese scientist guy and Godzilla. I really like that this movie didn't just make Godzilla "big dumb beast smashing s$+*", they made him a real character who ends up becoming the incidental hero. A great nod to all the "Godzilla Vs. ____" from way back when.

I was always a bit lukewarm about the other humans (though I didn't hate them like some people here did), but Godzilla? He's a giant kobold. I can identify with that.

Tinkergoth wrote:

From what I heard, they were pretty much forced into doing the 3D conversion by the studio, but they filmed it with only 2D in mind. I chose 2D for that reason.

This. I wish someone had told me before I coughed up the dough—the 3D was just distracting. Made the night scenes pretty hard to watch. XD


I thought it was a great Godzilla movie. Anybody who thinks there was not enough of him in it really don't much about the old movies it seems.


I really liked it. Best film of the year so far, easily beating TAS2 and CA:WS.
It wasn't perfect, but it was excellent.
They criminally underused Watanabe, and Ford was bland in the extreme - they could have done so much more with his character but he was cardboard.
Much though I would have loved to see more devestation and kaiju battle, I think the movie hit home with the most important feature of a Godzilla film: it's about humans trying to cope with something beyond them, not about enjoying the carnage.


Bjørn Røyrvik wrote:

I really liked it. Best film of the year so far, easily beating TAS2 and CA:WS.

It wasn't perfect, but it was excellent.
They criminally underused Watanabe, and Ford was bland in the extreme - they could have done so much more with his character but he was cardboard.
Much though I would have loved to see more devestation and kaiju battle, I think the movie hit home with the most important feature of a Godzilla film: it's about humans trying to cope with something beyond them, not about enjoying the carnage.

True.

Still, there's noting wrong with just sitting back and enjoying the carnage once in a while.

;)


Everyone knows that the 98 movie was about Godzuki not Godzilla;) If you don't know who that is, he was the annoying sidekick character from the Hanna Barbera cartoon.

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I don't know why everyone is badmouthing the 98 movie. It was not great, but it was not bad either. It was average, a 3 out of 5.

Don't forget, the Japanese made some clunkers as well.
I have not seen all of the Godzilla movies, but of the ones I have seen, Son of Godzilla is the worst.

Here is a list of all the Godzill movies.

Godzilla (1954)
Godzilla Raids Again (1955)
King Kong Vs. Godzilla (1962)
Godzilla Vs. Mothra (1964)
Ghidrah, the Three-Headed Monster (1964)
Godzilla Vs. Monster Zero (1965)
Godzilla Vs. the Sea Monster (1966)
Son of Godzilla (1967)
Destroy All Monsters (1968)
Godzilla's Revenge (1969)
Godzilla Vs. Hedorah (1971)
Godzilla Vs. Gigan (1972)
Godzilla Vs. Megalon (1973)
Godzilla Vs. Mechagodzilla (1974)
Terror of Mechagodzilla (1975)
Godzilla 1985 (1985)
Godzilla Vs. Biollante (1989)
Godzilla Vs. King Ghidorah (1991)
Godzilla & Mothra: The Battle for Earth (1992)
Godzilla Vs. Mechagodzilla II (1993)
Godzilla Vs. Spacegodzilla (1994)
Godzilla Vs. Destoroyah (1995)
Godzilla (1998)
Godzilla 2000: Millennium (2000)
Godzilla Vs. Megaguirus (2000)
Godzilla, Mothra, King Ghidorah: Giant Monsters All-Out Attack (2001)
Godzilla Against Mechagodzilla (2002)
Godzilla: Tokyo S.O.S. (2003)
Godzilla: Final Wars (2004)

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