Form of the Dragon III


Rules Questions


When under the effect of this spell are the granted attacks all at your full BAB? Or do they work like they do for dragons ie bite/tail full and claws/wings at -5?

Thanks in advance.


Actually, claws are primary attack and get full BAB. Only wings are at secondary attack IIRC.

Nothing in the spell description says otherwise so the bite/claws/tail attacks seem to be made at full BAB and wings at -5.


Take a look at the Bestiary -> Universal Monster Rules: Natural Attacks.
This is a general rule for all natural attacks.

There you will find a table with all natural attacks and their attack type. Bites, Claws, Gores, Slams, Stings and Talons are primary attacks. All other attacks are secondary attacks.

So the 'Form of the Dragon' has three primary (bite, 2xclaws) and three secondary (2xwings, tail) attacks.


Oh yeah! D'oh.

Cheers.


Sorry, I thought that dragon's tail slap is primary attack but it is secondary.


What about damage, do you add 1.5 x on just the bite?


As per Bestiary entry:

Bestiary/Dragon wrote:

Bite: This is a primary attack that deals the indicated damage plus 1-1/2 times Strength bonus.

Claws: These primary attacks deal the indicated damage plus Strength bonus.
Wings: Wing attacks are secondary attacks that deal the indicated damage plus 1/2 Strength bonus.
Tail Slap: A tail slap is a secondary attack that deals the indicated damage plus 1-1/2 times Strength bonus (this is an exception to the normal secondary attack rules).

Ruyan.


Is that an ability of the dragon or the natural attack? It's a physical property, so I imagine they'd get the extra Reach with the bite an the various STR bonuses.


Bizbag wrote:
Is that an ability of the dragon or the natural attack? It's a physical property, so I imagine they'd get the extra Reach with the bite an the various STR bonuses.

Yes - you get the natural attacks of the form, which includes all of that.

Complicated attacks from Form of the Dragon III:
3 Primary, 3 Secondary
2 Str * 1.5, 2 Str * 1, 2 Str * 0.5 - and those don't match up exactly.
+ PwrAtk at 150%, 100%, and 50%

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