Damage Reduction, have I been doing it wrong?


Rules Questions


Ok, so the old DR rules, with +3 overcoming Cold Iron etc.

I always assumed that you need an actual +3 Enhancement bonus on the weapon to overcome Cold Iron, and that a +2 Flaming weapon would not be enough, even though it also costs +3 to make.

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Weapons with an enhancement bonus of +3 or greater can ignore some types of damage reduction, regardless of their actual material or alignment.

Under the Magic Weapons section they usually differentiate between Enhancement Bonus (the actual +x on a weapon) and "Weapon Bonus" (the total number for determening price), so I figured it was clear.

Now however, DR/epic in Mythic Adventures states that for DR/epic those special abilities count. A "+1 Keen Flaming Burst Holy" counts as a +6 for that and overcomes DR/epic.

So, does the same apply to normal DR too, or is that a special case for Epic DR?

Sczarni

Special case for Epic, I believe. This came up in another discussion.


To overcome cold iron you need an actual +3 weapon, not a +2 flaming.

Epic is a special case.

Shadow Lodge

From what I could see with a quick scan of DR/Epic, it requires an enhancement bonus of +6 or greater but a +4 or +5 bane weapon is equal to a +6 or +7 enhancement bonus.

But that was just a quick scan.


The original epic rules did require a +6, but when mythic came out they decided to use the alternate rule of anything adding up to +6.


On the PRD it has a table that says "Weapon Enhancement Bonus Equivalent", which is what got me thinking.

Is't a "+2 flaming" a "+3 equivalent" ?

Maybe they changed it when Mythic Adventures came out? I don't have my actual CRB to check what's in there here.


Equivalent in that case means equivalent to the normal way to bypass DR. +3 is equivalent to Cold Iron and Silver. +4 is equivalent to Adamantine. +5 is equivalent to Alignment-based weapons.

That is not the same as "modified bonus" which is Enhancement bonus + equivalent enhancement bonus from special abilities.


Oh, ok, that way of reading the table makes sense, I get it now.

Thanks

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