Invisibility ring

[IceniQueen]

Lets say a Barbarian, uses invisibility to sneak into a group of say 18 enemies. He then attacks one of the enemies and become visible again as per the spell. Could he on his next turn activate the ring again and continue this each round?

Seems very unbalanced if he could. A spell caster at least has to cast the spell and may get hit doing it and thus lose his spell. He also may be limited in how many times he can cast it.

[Jacob Saltband]

Thats why its a 20k gp item.

The answer is yes he can attack in one round and then become invisible again in the next round. Ring is standard action activation.

[Suthainn]

Yep, that's how it works but it's not as op as you think, for the first couple of attacks sure it works, then he eats half a dozen held actions from the enemies to attack when he appears.

The ring is a very powerful item but it costs a lot too and is taking up a slot that might hold a permanent bonus like a ring of Protection does for example.

[wraithstrike]

Yes, but but it takes a standard action to activate the ring, and the invisibility rules state that a DC 20 perception check allow you to notice when an invisible creature is within 30 feet of you, so the first attack might wake the entire camp. If one of the bad guys locates your square then he can direct everyone else to attack into that square. Yeah there is a 50% miss chance, but having 15 times to hit someone does not help.

They can also ready actions to attack once you become visible. That would allow them to attack before you can go invisible again.

[James Risner]

IceniQueen wrote:

Seems very unbalanced if he could.

You are paying 8000 gp more than it should cost for the "at will" part because Invisibility is a "good" effect.

[kinevon]

Just to reinforce what was mentioned above, but after his first attack, and before he can go invisible again, he'll have to eat an attack from 8 or more of those enemies before his next chance to go invisible again.

He likely also won't be able to get a full attack off very often wityh this trick, and, as also mentioned, after only one or two iterations of it, he'll start top eat readied attacks, and small AoEs.

And those readies could include things like trip, sunder, and disarm, so if he gets knocked down, even if he goes back invisible and stands up, he'll be in a very limited area that turn. Or have to find another weapon to use.

Maybe if he has Whirlwind Attack, Lunge and a boatload of damage in his attacks, against NPCs with low hit points...