paizo.com Recent Posts in Discussion thread for Pupsockets Guide to Early entry with Spell-Like Abilitiespaizo.com Recent Posts in Discussion thread for Pupsockets Guide to Early entry with Spell-Like Abilities2013-11-11T11:15:09Z2013-11-11T11:15:09ZRe: Forums: Advice: Discussion thread for Pupsockets Guide to Early entry with Spell-Like AbilitiesCoeusFreezehttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2qcjk?Discussion-thread-for-Pupsockets-Guide-to#202017-06-06T05:49:03Z2017-06-06T05:49:03Z<p>There's one trick based on equipment which hasn't been mentioned yet. The Djezet special material from Shattered Star adventure path and the Technology Guide has the ability to increase the level of a spell by 1 whenever it is used as a material component. You never have to use it, but if you have it on your person you technically count as being able to cast a spell of one level higher.</p>There's one trick based on equipment which hasn't been mentioned yet. The Djezet special material from Shattered Star adventure path and the Technology Guide has the ability to increase the level of a spell by 1 whenever it is used as a material component. You never have to use it, but if you have it on your person you technically count as being able to cast a spell of one level higher.CoeusFreeze2017-06-06T05:49:03ZRe: Forums: Advice: Discussion thread for Pupsockets Guide to Early entry with Spell-Like AbilitiesUnArcaneElectionhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2qcjk?Discussion-thread-for-Pupsockets-Guide-to#192015-02-19T16:27:15Z2015-02-19T16:27:15Z<p><a href="http://paizo.com/threads/rzs2rzyg?New-FAQ-on-spelllike-abilities" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">We got hosed.</a> (See <a href="http://paizo.com/paizo/faq/v5748nruor1fm#v5748eaic9qow" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">the new FAQ itself</a>.)</p>
<p>EDIT: Also see <a href="http://paizo.com/threads/rzs2rzwh&page=2?SLA-FAQ-Reversal" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">this other thread</a>.</p>We got hosed. (See the new FAQ itself.)
EDIT: Also see this other thread.UnArcaneElection2015-02-19T16:27:15ZRe: Forums: Advice: Discussion thread for Pupsockets Guide to Early entry with Spell-Like AbilitiesGisherhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2qcjk?Discussion-thread-for-Pupsockets-Guide-to#182014-11-02T20:44:36Z2014-11-02T20:44:36Z<p>Pupsocket, it looks like you missed a couple of religion traits from Inner Sea Gods.</p>
<p><b>0 Level Arcane
<br />
Light-Bringer</b> grants <i>light</i> once per day as an SLA. Requires being a worshipper of Sarenrae. Caster level is character level.</p>
<p>(This shouldn't be confused with the Lightbringer racial ability available to elves.)</p>
<p><b>0 Level Divine
<br />
Stabilizing Touch</b> grants <i>stabilize</i> once per day as an SLA. Requires being a worshipper of Pharasma.</p>Pupsocket, it looks like you missed a couple of religion traits from Inner Sea Gods.
0 Level Arcane
Light-Bringer grants light once per day as an SLA. Requires being a worshipper of Sarenrae. Caster level is character level.
(This shouldn't be confused with the Lightbringer racial ability available to elves.)
0 Level Divine
Stabilizing Touch grants stabilize once per day as an SLA. Requires being a worshipper of Pharasma.Gisher2014-11-02T20:44:36ZRe: Forums: Advice: Discussion thread for Pupsockets Guide to Early entry with Spell-Like Abilitiesgraystonehttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2qcjk?Discussion-thread-for-Pupsockets-Guide-to#172014-11-02T20:32:30Z2014-11-02T20:32:30Z<p>You're missing the 2 traits from the Occult Mysteries pg. 37.</p>
<p>The Lantern Bearer for light and The Patriarch for know direction.</p>You're missing the 2 traits from the Occult Mysteries pg. 37.
The Lantern Bearer for light and The Patriarch for know direction.graystone2014-11-02T20:32:30ZRe: Forums: Advice: Discussion thread for Pupsockets Guide to Early entry with Spell-Like AbilitiesGisherhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2qcjk?Discussion-thread-for-Pupsockets-Guide-to#162014-11-02T20:20:01Z2014-11-02T20:20:01Z<p>Weird, it is still crashing my computer browser, but works fine on my ipad.</p>Weird, it is still crashing my computer browser, but works fine on my ipad.Gisher2014-11-02T20:20:01ZRe: Forums: Advice: Discussion thread for Pupsockets Guide to Early entry with Spell-Like AbilitiesVRMHhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2qcjk?Discussion-thread-for-Pupsockets-Guide-to#152014-11-02T11:02:22Z2014-11-02T11:02:22Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">Gisher wrote:</div><blockquote> There seems to be something wrong with the guide. google docs keeps crashing my browser every time that I click on the link. This wasn't a problem before now.</blockquote><p>It works for me, but does start up in "editing mode".Gisher wrote:There seems to be something wrong with the guide. google docs keeps crashing my browser every time that I click on the link. This wasn't a problem before now.
It works for me, but does start up in "editing mode".VRMH2014-11-02T11:02:22ZRe: Forums: Advice: Discussion thread for Pupsockets Guide to Early entry with Spell-Like AbilitiesGisherhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2qcjk?Discussion-thread-for-Pupsockets-Guide-to#142014-11-02T07:15:59Z2014-11-02T07:15:59Z<p>There seems to be something wrong with the guide. google docs keeps crashing my browser every time that I click on the link. This wasn't a problem before now.</p>There seems to be something wrong with the guide. google docs keeps crashing my browser every time that I click on the link. This wasn't a problem before now.Gisher2014-11-02T07:15:59ZRe: Forums: Advice: Discussion thread for Pupsockets Guide to Early entry with Spell-Like AbilitiesGluttonhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2qcjk?Discussion-thread-for-Pupsockets-Guide-to#132014-04-12T18:25:10Z2014-04-12T18:25:10Z<p>Derro Magister (can be taken by humans with racial heritage Derro)</p>
<p>Requires 20 charisma, gives +4 to heal, SR 10+HD, and the following SLA's CL = HD when you hit 6 HD.</p>
<p>Levitate (2nd arcane)
<br />
Deep Slumber (3rd arcane)
<br />
Modify Memory (4th arcane I guess? Bard 4 Domain spell 6th)</p>
<p>Pretty crazy feat for an oracle.</p>Derro Magister (can be taken by humans with racial heritage Derro)
Requires 20 charisma, gives +4 to heal, SR 10+HD, and the following SLA's CL = HD when you hit 6 HD.
Levitate (2nd arcane)
Deep Slumber (3rd arcane)
Modify Memory (4th arcane I guess? Bard 4 Domain spell 6th)
Pretty crazy feat for an oracle.Glutton2014-04-12T18:25:10ZRe: Forums: Advice: Discussion thread for Pupsockets Guide to Early entry with Spell-Like Abilitiessoupturtlehttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2qcjk?Discussion-thread-for-Pupsockets-Guide-to#122014-03-03T13:33:26Z2014-03-03T13:33:26Z<p>@insaneogeddon: You're counting speak with animals as a 3rd level arcane spell like ability, while it should be a 1st level divine spell like ability (because druid comes before bard in that rule you quoted). So no early access to Eldritch Knight for gnomes and sylphs.</p>@insaneogeddon: You're counting speak with animals as a 3rd level arcane spell like ability, while it should be a 1st level divine spell like ability (because druid comes before bard in that rule you quoted). So no early access to Eldritch Knight for gnomes and sylphs.soupturtle2014-03-03T13:33:26ZRe: Forums: Advice: Discussion thread for Pupsockets Guide to Early entry with Spell-Like Abilitiesinsaneogeddonhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2qcjk?Discussion-thread-for-Pupsockets-Guide-to#112014-03-03T08:07:29Z2014-03-03T08:07:29Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">Pupsocket wrote:</div><blockquote> <a href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ZFnvgbhjMibHJRft0dl_4gbcMw0-dAMUFYFlsyS7d60/edit?usp=sharing" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">This guide</a> </blockquote><p>You missed a couple things and if ever want to update I have listed the (core) specifics of the spellabilities.
<p>Races with spell like abilities, their level, the type and the specifics (as it can matter):</p>
<p>NB due to the ruling http://paizo.com/paizo/faq/v5748nruor1fm#v5748eaic9qt6 :
<br />
For spell-like abilities gained from a creature's race or type (including PC races), the same rule should apply: the creature's spell-like abilities are presumed to be the sorcerer/wizard versions. If the spell in question is not a sorcerer/wizard spell, then default to cleric, druid, bard, paladin, and ranger, in that order.
<br />
This changes it and makes some things automatically higher, others automatically lower. </p>
<p>As the spells are listed below just search them and read it as counting as what the ruling above dictates.</p>
<p>Elf:
<br />
5th Arcane (chr 15+ dream) Dreamspeaker
<br />
1st Divine AND
<br />
1st Arcane (int 11+ comp. languages, detect magic, detect poison, read magic) Envoy</p>
<p>Gnome:
<br />
1st Divine AND
<br />
3rd Arcane (chr 11+ dancing lights, ghost sound, prestidigitation, speak with animals) Gnome Magic
<br />
or
<br />
1st Divine AND
<br />
1st Arcane
<br />
(wis 11+ bleed, chill touch, detect poison, touch of fatigue) Fell Magic
<br />
or
<br />
1st Divine AND
<br />
1st Arcane
<br />
(chr 11+ arcane mark, comp. languages, message, read magic) Magic Linguist
<br />
or
<br />
1st Divine
<br />
(chr 11+ dancing lights, prestidigitation, flare, produce flame) Pyromaniac</p>
<p>HalfElf:
<br />
5th Arcane (chr 15+ dream 1x p/d) Dreamspeaker (as elf)
<br />
or
<br />
1st Arcane (charm person) Seducer (as Drow)
<br />
and
<br />
2nd Divine AND
<br />
2nd Arcane (NO STAT REQ. Dancing lights, darkness, faerie fire) Drow Magic</p>
<p>—</p>
<p>Aasimar:
<br />
3rd Divine AND
<br />
3rd Arcane
<br />
(daylight) Spell like ability</p>
<p>NOTE- with a feat (heavenly radiance) you can gain a spell like ability up to 7th Divine or 4th Arcane all under 9th level!
<br />
or
<br />
4th Divine AND
<br />
4th Arcane
<br />
(Lesser age resistance – a great way to ignore age penalties/abuse middle aged stat bonuses from 1st !!) Immortal Spark
<br />
or
<br />
2nd Divine
<br />
(corruption resistance) Incorruptible</p>
<p>Dhampir:
<br />
1st Divine AND
<br />
1st Arcane
<br />
(detect undead) Spell like ability</p>
<p>Drow
<br />
2nd Divine AND
<br />
2nd Arcane
<br />
(dancing lights, darkness, faerie fire) Spell like ability
<br />
and
<br />
1st Arcane
<br />
(charm person) Seducer</p>
<p>Fetchling
<br />
1st Arcane
<br />
(disguise self) Spell like ability</p>
<p>NOTE- this escalates to 6th Arcane at 9th level and 5th Divine and 7th Arcane at 13th level.
<br />
or
<br />
1st Arcane
<br />
(memory lapse) Subtle manipulator</p>
<p>NOTE- this escalates to 6th Arcane at 9th level and 5th Divine and 7th Arcane at 13th level.</p>
<p>Ifrit
<br />
1st Arcane
<br />
(burning hands) Spell like ability
<br />
or
<br />
1st Arcane
<br />
(enlarge and reduce person) Spell like ability</p>
<p>NOTE- with a feat (elemental jaunt) you can gain a spell like ability (at 15th level) that is 5th Divine and 7th Arcane.</p>
<p>Oread
<br />
1st Divine
<br />
(magic stone) Spell like ability</p>
<p>NOTE- with a feat (elemental jaunt) you can gain a spell like ability (at 15th level) that is 5th Divine and 7th Arcane.</p>
<p>Sylph
<br />
1st Arcane
<br />
(feather fall) Spell like ability
<br />
or
<br />
1st Divine AND
<br />
3nd Arcane
<br />
(speak with animals) Spell like ability</p>
<p>NOTE- with a feat (elemental jaunt) you can gain a spell like ability (at 15th level) that is 5th Divine and 7th Arcane.</p>
<p>Tiefling
<br />
2nd Divine AND
<br />
2nd Arcane (darkness) Spell like ability
<br />
Or
<br />
1st Divine
<br />
(deathwatch) Soul Seer
<br />
NOTE- with a feat (heavenly radiance) you can gain a spell like ability up to 7th Divine or 4th Arcane all under 9th level!
<br />
ability</p>
<p>Undine
<br />
1st Divine AND
<br />
1st level Arcane (hydraulic push) Spell like ability</p>
<p>NOTE- with a feat (triton portal) you can gain a spell like ability (at 5th level) that is 3rd Divine
<br />
And
<br />
with a feat (elemental jaunt) you can gain a spell like ability (at 15th level) that is 5th Divine and 7th Arcane.</p>
<p>—</p>
<p>Duergar
<br />
2nd level Arcane (enlarge person, invisibility) Spell like ability</p>
<p>Nagaji
<br />
1st level Arcane (hypnotism) Hypnotic Gaze</p>
<p>Samsaran
<br />
1st Divine AND
<br />
1st level Arcane (comp. language, death watch, stabilize) Samsaran magic –wow they get a name for their spell-like ability!</p>
<p>Svirfneblin
<br />
4th Divine AND
<br />
3rd level Arcane (nondetection, blindness/deafness, blur, disguise self) Svirfneblin magic – another named sla.
<br />
or
<br />
6th Divine AND
<br />
4th level Arcane (nondetection, magic stone, stone shape, stone tell) Stone Seer</p>
<p>Wayang
<br />
1st Divine AND
<br />
1st level Arcane (ghost sound, pass without trace, ventriloquism) Spell-like ability.</p>Pupsocket wrote:This guide
You missed a couple things and if ever want to update I have listed the (core) specifics of the spellabilities. Races with spell like abilities, their level, the type and the specifics (as it can matter):
NB due to the ruling http://paizo.com/paizo/faq/v5748nruor1fm#v5748eaic9qt6 :
For spell-like abilities gained from a creature's race or type (including PC races), the same rule should apply: the creature's spell-like abilities are presumed to be the...insaneogeddon2014-03-03T08:07:29ZRe: Forums: Advice: Discussion thread for Pupsockets Guide to Early entry with Spell-Like AbilitiesMaster of the Dark Triad (alias of The Artaxerxes)https://paizo.com/threads/rzs2qcjk?Discussion-thread-for-Pupsockets-Guide-to#102014-03-02T02:20:32Z2014-03-02T02:20:32Z<p>This feat lets gillmen and humans w/racial heritage qualify for the divine part of the mystic theurge.</p>
<p>You're welcome. Thanks to AmouredMonk13 for helping me find this thread to post this.</p>This feat lets gillmen and humans w/racial heritage qualify for the divine part of the mystic theurge.
You're welcome. Thanks to AmouredMonk13 for helping me find this thread to post this.Master of the Dark Triad (alias of The Artaxerxes)2014-03-02T02:20:32ZRe: Forums: Advice: Discussion thread for Pupsockets Guide to Early entry with Spell-Like AbilitiesGisherhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2qcjk?Discussion-thread-for-Pupsockets-Guide-to#92014-01-30T06:43:19Z2014-01-30T06:43:19Z<p>Great update to the guide, pupsocket! Thanks!</p>Great update to the guide, pupsocket! Thanks!Gisher2014-01-30T06:43:19ZRe: Forums: Advice: Discussion thread for Pupsockets Guide to Early entry with Spell-Like AbilitiesPupsockethttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2qcjk?Discussion-thread-for-Pupsockets-Guide-to#82014-01-13T09:22:13Z2014-01-13T09:22:13Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">Gisher wrote:</div><blockquote><p> Thanks for the guide, Pupsocket. Thought I'd add one to your list. </p>
<p>Druids with the Cave Domain (from UM) gain the Cavesight SLA which would seem to be based on the Darkvision spell. I think it would be considered to be level 2 from the wizard/sorcerer list, but since the spell is granted by a domain, I think it would be classified as divine. If my reasoning is correct then it should count as a level 2 divine spell, and therefore count for early entry to Mystic Theurge.</blockquote><p>I don't think it references the Darkvision spell, so it should probably be 1. level by default. But I've added it.
<div class="messageboard-quotee">Gisher wrote:</div><blockquote><br />
<br />
ZanThrax, I think that the reasoning behind produce flame counting as a domain spell rather than a druid spell is that cleric comes before druid in the Bestiary defined hierarchy. It seems an odd result to me as well, but may be RAW. </blockquote><p>Yes. Given that an escape clause for the divine/arcane assignment was written, and then not used for Aasimars, I don't think a new ruling is going to be made to specify that Gnomes Produce Flame like a Druid, not like a Cleric.
<div class="messageboard-quotee">Cevah wrote:</div><blockquote><p> You mention Rogue (Major Magic) netting you a 1-SLA. You can also use Rogue (Minor Magic) for a 0-SLA.</p>
<p>Ninja (Vanishing Trick) works as Invisibility, making it a 2-SLA.
<br />
Ninja (Ventriloquism) is 1-SLA.
<br />
Ninja (Sudden Disguise) is 1-SLA.
<br />
Ninja (Shadow Clone) is 2-SLA.
<br />
Ninja (Feather Fall) is 1-SLA.
<br />
Ninja (Invisible Blade) is 4-SLA.
<br />
Ninja (See the Unseen) is 2-SLA.</p>
<p>/cevah </blockquote><p>No, those are all (Su).Gisher wrote:Thanks for the guide, Pupsocket. Thought I'd add one to your list.
Druids with the Cave Domain (from UM) gain the Cavesight SLA which would seem to be based on the Darkvision spell. I think it would be considered to be level 2 from the wizard/sorcerer list, but since the spell is granted by a domain, I think it would be classified as divine. If my reasoning is correct then it should count as a level 2 divine spell, and therefore count for early entry to Mystic Theurge.
I don't...Pupsocket2014-01-13T09:22:13ZRe: Forums: Advice: Discussion thread for Pupsockets Guide to Early entry with Spell-Like AbilitiesCevahhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2qcjk?Discussion-thread-for-Pupsockets-Guide-to#72014-01-09T23:01:49Z2014-01-09T23:01:49Z<p>You mention Rogue (Major Magic) netting you a 1-SLA. You can also use Rogue (Minor Magic) for a 0-SLA.</p>
<p>Ninja (Vanishing Trick) works as Invisibility, making it a 2-SLA.
<br />
Ninja (Ventriloquism) is 1-SLA.
<br />
Ninja (Sudden Disguise) is 1-SLA.
<br />
Ninja (Shadow Clone) is 2-SLA.
<br />
Ninja (Feather Fall) is 1-SLA.
<br />
Ninja (Invisible Blade) is 4-SLA.
<br />
Ninja (See the Unseen) is 2-SLA.</p>
<p>/cevah</p>You mention Rogue (Major Magic) netting you a 1-SLA. You can also use Rogue (Minor Magic) for a 0-SLA.
Ninja (Vanishing Trick) works as Invisibility, making it a 2-SLA.
Ninja (Ventriloquism) is 1-SLA.
Ninja (Sudden Disguise) is 1-SLA.
Ninja (Shadow Clone) is 2-SLA.
Ninja (Feather Fall) is 1-SLA.
Ninja (Invisible Blade) is 4-SLA.
Ninja (See the Unseen) is 2-SLA.
/cevahCevah2014-01-09T23:01:49ZRe: Forums: Advice: Discussion thread for Pupsockets Guide to Early entry with Spell-Like AbilitiesZigniberhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2qcjk?Discussion-thread-for-Pupsockets-Guide-to#62014-01-09T04:12:36Z2014-01-09T04:12:36Z<p>A favorite trick of mine is to use an Agathion-blooded Aasimar's Summon Nature's Ally II SLA to qualify for the <a href="http://www.d20pfsrd.com/feats/general-feats/sunlight-summons" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Sunlight</a>, <a href="http://www.d20pfsrd.com/feats/general-feats/moonlight-summons" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Moonlight</a>, and/or <a href="http://www.d20pfsrd.com/feats/general-feats/starlight-summons" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Starlight Summons</a> feats on a Master Summoner. Now all your spammed summons can bypass a whole bunch of DRs and gain immunity to a bunch of statuses, among other boons. The Agathion-blooded Aasimar even gets you a nifty +2 Con, +2 Cha as your racial stats, which is just perfect for a Summoner.</p>A favorite trick of mine is to use an Agathion-blooded Aasimar's Summon Nature's Ally II SLA to qualify for the Sunlight, Moonlight, and/or Starlight Summons feats on a Master Summoner. Now all your spammed summons can bypass a whole bunch of DRs and gain immunity to a bunch of statuses, among other boons. The Agathion-blooded Aasimar even gets you a nifty +2 Con, +2 Cha as your racial stats, which is just perfect for a Summoner.Zigniber2014-01-09T04:12:36ZRe: Forums: Advice: Discussion thread for Pupsockets Guide to Early entry with Spell-Like AbilitiesAnnoyingOrange (alias of Remco Sommeling)https://paizo.com/threads/rzs2qcjk?Discussion-thread-for-Pupsockets-Guide-to#52014-01-09T03:21:26Z2014-01-09T03:21:26Z<p>Alluring</p>
<p>You have the art of turning a passing glance into love.</p>
<p>Benefit: You receive a +2 trait bonus on Diplomacy checks with those who find you attractive. You can use daze once per day as a spell-like ability, with a caster Level equal to your character level.</p>Alluring
You have the art of turning a passing glance into love.
Benefit: You receive a +2 trait bonus on Diplomacy checks with those who find you attractive. You can use daze once per day as a spell-like ability, with a caster Level equal to your character level.AnnoyingOrange (alias of Remco Sommeling)2014-01-09T03:21:26ZRe: Forums: Advice: Discussion thread for Pupsockets Guide to Early entry with Spell-Like AbilitiesGisherhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2qcjk?Discussion-thread-for-Pupsockets-Guide-to#42014-01-09T03:08:20Z2014-01-09T03:08:20Z<p>Thanks for the guide, Pupsocket. Thought I'd add one to your list. </p>
<p>Druids with the Cave Domain (from UM) gain the Cavesight SLA which would seem to be based on the Darkvision spell. I think it would be considered to be level 2 from the wizard/sorcerer list, but since the spell is granted by a domain, I think it would be classified as divine. If my reasoning is correct then it should count as a level 2 divine spell, and therefore count for early entry to Mystic Theurge.</p>
<p>ZanThrax, I think that the reasoning behind produce flame counting as a domain spell rather than a druid spell is that cleric comes before druid in the Bestiary defined hierarchy. It seems an odd result to me as well, but may be RAW.</p>Thanks for the guide, Pupsocket. Thought I'd add one to your list.
Druids with the Cave Domain (from UM) gain the Cavesight SLA which would seem to be based on the Darkvision spell. I think it would be considered to be level 2 from the wizard/sorcerer list, but since the spell is granted by a domain, I think it would be classified as divine. If my reasoning is correct then it should count as a level 2 divine spell, and therefore count for early entry to Mystic Theurge.
ZanThrax, I think...Gisher2014-01-09T03:08:20ZRe: Forums: Advice: Discussion thread for Pupsockets Guide to Early entry with Spell-Like AbilitiesParagonDireRaccoonhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2qcjk?Discussion-thread-for-Pupsockets-Guide-to#32013-11-11T19:01:32Z2013-11-11T19:01:32Z<p>Great job Pupsocket!</p>Great job Pupsocket!ParagonDireRaccoon2013-11-11T19:01:32ZRe: Forums: Advice: Discussion thread for Pupsockets Guide to Early entry with Spell-Like AbilitiesZanThraxhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2qcjk?Discussion-thread-for-Pupsockets-Guide-to#22013-11-11T18:38:19Z2013-11-11T18:38:19Z<p>For gnome pyro, surely Produce Flame is a 1st level divine? Druid 1, rather than Domain Spell 2?</p>For gnome pyro, surely Produce Flame is a 1st level divine? Druid 1, rather than Domain Spell 2?ZanThrax2013-11-11T18:38:19ZForums: Advice: Discussion thread for Pupsockets Guide to Early entry with Spell-Like AbilitiesPupsockethttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2qcjk?Discussion-thread-for-Pupsockets-Guide-to#12014-11-22T06:33:10Z2013-11-11T11:15:09Z<p><a href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ZFnvgbhjMibHJRft0dl_4gbcMw0-dAMUFYFlsyS7d60/edit?usp=sharing" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">This guide</a></p>This guidePupsocket2013-11-11T11:15:09Z