Cheating Death


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Looking for character build advice. In the event that my GM rules that lesser astral projection can't be used to become effectively immortal during adventuring, what are some other methods of cheating death that my 10th-level sorcerer could use?


It's a bit of a stretch (okay, it's a huuuge stretch), but you could claim ageing is a harmful environmental effects of the Prime Material Plane, and so the Planar Adaptation spell should shield you from it.


instead of creating a fake body to adventure using lesser astral projection you could use
http://paizo.com/pathfinderRPG/prd/advanced/spells/shadowProjection.html


self is on astral plane
silver cord
body on material plane

How are you effectively immortal?


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Owly wrote:

self is on astral plane

silver cord
body on material plane

How are you effectively immortal?

By materializing a new body on the material plane of course. Not everybody believes it works that way though, so I'm looking for a contingency plan should my GM say no.


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Ravingdork wrote:
Owly wrote:

self is on astral plane

silver cord
body on material plane

How are you effectively immortal?

By materializing a new body on the material plane of course. Not everybody believes it works that way though, so I'm looking for a contingency plan should my GM say no.

How about this plan: "Age and die gracefully".


A really good bluff check and a straight face?

Alternatively, sick your pet hamster on him during the limbo contest.


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Adamantine Dragon wrote:
How about this plan: "Age and die gracefully".

I don't have a problem with that, it's dying before my time that I worry about.

Besides, it makes sense that a great spy would have a backup plan and would avoid putting himself in harm's way.

MrSin wrote:

A really good bluff check and a straight face?

Alternatively, sick your pet hamster on him during the limbo contest.

I have that down, I guess, but why would I need to bluff in the first place? There's no right or wrong here (the spell is too ambiguous for that), only interpretation.


Ravingdork wrote:
Owly wrote:

self is on astral plane

silver cord
body on material plane

How are you effectively immortal?

By materializing a new body on the material plane of course. Not everybody believes it works that way though, so I'm looking for a contingency plan should my GM say no.

Sorry to get in your grill, RD, I always enjoy your posts. But I don't see any GM allowing a Lesser Astral Projector to rematerialize on their home plane in a second body. Nuh unh. "...though you can still return to the plane you were on when you cast this spell."; that's your door back in. If we compare it to Magic Jar, we see all of the limitations placed on that 5th level spell, I don't believe it was intended to be used as such.

Looking over your sheet, you're casting three other protective spells twice (for your familiar). Extended, that's six level 2 slots. You're also casting misdirection and nondetection (either 2nd and 3rd, or 3rd and 4th level).

How many first level slots are you using up casting magic aura on how many items?

'Not saying you can't do these things of course, I'm a little paranoid walking around town myself, but by the time you finish your morning castings, it's already lunchtime at the inn and you don't have a whole lotta spell slots left in case you need 'em walking around town bluffing all the guards at the women's bathhouse.

How did you get your Charisma to 24? +2 for the circlet of mental prowess, okay, and two attribute bonuses...

I'm also noting you've got a circlet, a headband, a hat and a stony mask. Aside from the headband, I might find myself asking which of the others you're wearing for what occasion.

*shrug* You are attacked by owlbears. Roll Initiative.


Ravingdork wrote:
I have that down, I guess, but why would I need to bluff in the first place? There's no right or wrong here (the spell is too ambiguous for that), only interpretation.

Bluff being the modifier used in a game of card game or something similar, and the hamster is a reference to the pilot of The Grim Adventures of Billy and Mandy. The joke was that I was suggesting you literally cheat death in a game. That said, bluff has plenty of uses, such as getting other people to go into the horrifically dangerous tomb. There are dozens of ways to actively keep yourself out of danger, and my personal favorite is the sack of chickens, but that's probably not what your looking for.

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Ravingdork wrote:
Adamantine Dragon wrote:
How about this plan: "Age and die gracefully".

I don't have a problem with that, it's dying before my time that I worry about.

Besides, it makes sense that a great spy would have a backup plan and would avoid putting himself in harm's way.

MrSin wrote:

A really good bluff check and a straight face?

Alternatively, sick your pet hamster on him during the limbo contest.

I have that down, I guess, but why would I need to bluff in the first place? There's no right or wrong here (the spell is too ambiguous for that), only interpretation.

AS J.T. Kirk would say, "Risk is our buisness."


Wait, was that James T Kirk in "Risky Business?"

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