My ability to craft monsters from scratch is limited. Could you kind and wonderful individuals help me.
What CR would you estimate this beastie having?
31 outsider hit dice, a 25 point buy for starting stats,evil subtype, chaos subtype, the demon lord subtype, pc level wealth, 20th level warlock invoking ability*, and 10 levels of the Mythic monster subtype.
* If you don't know that one assume sorcerer spell casting ability.
There is an entire section dedicated to if you wanted to build a monster.
Now then...
A) 31 Hit Dice Outsider Base Cr 20
B) Point Buy for stats? If anything this is a deduction from 'monster' that you would find in any Bestiary. Find an appropriate Demon or Devil around the same CR and copy their stats.
C) Types and Subtypes don't particularly matter except for the special immunities they bring. Even then it's built into the Monster type and Hit Dice more or less.
D) PC Wealth. Normal Character class NPCs should increase their CR by at least +1.
E) Ten Mythic tiers is equal to an additional +10 CR.
F) Not even touching the 20th level caster bit...
Overall CR rating for the Monster 31+. Not including the Golarion shattering magic it possesses.
TL:DR You created a Demi-God, good luck for the party who fights it.
Edited : Spelling mistakes and added additional content.
10 mythic ranks would be a +5 CR.
10 mythic ranks would be a +5 CR.
Oh, you're right. For some reason I thought Mythic Tiers were a different and added flat to the total CR of the Creature or PC.
20 CR(HD 31 Outsider) + PC Wealth(Additional +1) + Mythic Ranks (+5) + 20th level sorcerer casting.
So we're left with a minumum CR 26 before we start to find out what the spell-casting is.
Could you elaborate on how you want this creature to cast? An example, do you want this Evil Chaosy Demon Lord thing to cast as if he had 20 level in sorcerer? Gaining the spell casting and not the HD or Bloodline. TheNPC, I can't help much more unless you're going to giving me more information. It's dependent on how useful the actual spells are as well as Caster level.
Is there any reason this should be in the Rule Forum instead of the Advice Forum? I'm at a loss trying to find any rules questions. Besides adding spelling casting to a monster without adding actual spell casting PC classes to it.
If my player is reading please don't look.
Maybe it should be in the Advice forum, but it also pertained to monster creation rules. A certain amount of fuzziness abounded and I posted it here. Maybe it can be moved? Anyway...
It would be the casting not the bloodline stuff.
You see the story for this beastie is that she was a warlock (The 3.5 class) who became a fiendish outsider via a prestige class then later gained mythic power and went to the world wound and the abyss where she transformed into a demon lord.
The CR of the monster depends on what else it has. As an example you would need to list armor class, attack bonus, number of attacks, etc...
All of this factors into it. If you are just looking for a monster of a certain CR then reskinning or altering something that already exist is a better option.
The CR of the monster depends on what else it has. As an example you would need to list armor class, attack bonus, number of attacks, etc...
All of this factors into it. If you are just looking for a monster of a certain CR then reskinning or altering something that already exist is a better option.
Hmmm... Thinking, but please continue if you have insight.
Instead of building a monster and trying to guess the CR, I would build toward the CR you want to achieve. Once you know that post the full stat block, and ask us for feedback.
You can also list how you want to use the monster, and list a CR you want it to be, and see if anyone has any ideas. If you dont trust your players as someone to sent you a private message.
Instead of building a monster and trying to guess the CR, I would build toward the CR you want to achieve. Once you know that post the full stat block, and ask us for feedback.
You can also list how you want to use the monster, and list a CR you want it to be, and see if anyone has any ideas. If you dont trust your players as someone to sent you a private message.
That's what i'm thinking i'll do. I do trust my players. My previous "Please don't look" was more of a heads up.