Now, just to be curious: can a cleric/magus spellcombat Magic Weapon if he prepared it in cleric slots?
If not, why? If yes, why?
Yes. Magic Weapon is on the magus spell list, and it has a casting time of 1 standard action. Those are the only requirements of Spell Combat.
The point is that the arcane armor failure removal is not a signature of spell combat. Now, if you're right, you can say I can cast MW from cleric levels with spell combat. So, in all ways (as long as divine spells don't have ACF), Broad study would be totally useless for a multiclass magus, as long as he could cast any spell that is in his list without problem, even if it come from other classes. You can spell combat even divine spells.
As far I can see it, it seems to be too far away from the intent of the class. I can't see why I should incur in ACF for casting a wiz shocking grasp. SG is a magus spell, after all. It shouldn't matter if I cast it in wiz or magus slot. Since it's a magus spell, I shouldn't incur in ACF, yup? Instead, I incur in ACF. So, it seems to me this is something like talking about sex of angels: spell combat is a magus class feature, so it applies only with other magus class features, unless otherwise noted.
For Spell Blending: how do you know if a spell is on the magus spell list? If A spell isn't on magus list, but later it become thanks to spell blending, can I suddenly spell combat it in my wiz slot?
"The magus spell list" is not the same thing as "all spell lists of a particular multiclassed magus." A magus/cleric without Broad Study cannot spell combat Righteous Might. A magus/cleric with Broad Study can. That's the use of the arcana.
You get arcane spell failure for casting shocking grasp out of wizard slots because the magus Weapon and Armor Proficiency class feature explicitly says you do. The same explicit language is absent from spell combat.
As far as spell blending, I'm actually not sure. Class spells known, and the class spell list are not always the same thing. A spell gained from spell blending is a magus spell, and it's placed on his list of magus spells known, but not on THE list of magus spells. So, by strict RAW, you actually can't use it with spell combat. That's definitely a strange interaction, however, and would add to the case for a FAQ.
But spell blending says that he add the spell as a Magus spell. So it become effectively a Magus spell. Do you think that if the magus lose his spellbook he cannot add again the spell gained through spell blending to his new spellbook?
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That does raise the question that feats and arcana that expand a particular magus's spell list may not then be usable in Spell Combat. That interpretation would invalidate a common practice of taking Expanded Arcana to add Touch of Fatigue as a cantrip.
The Spell Blending and Greater Spell Access add the selected spells to the Magi's spell list.
For that specific magus, the selected spells are on the magus spell list.
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FAQ: http://paizo.com/paizo/faq/v5748nruor1fz#v5748eaic9rdm
Magus, Spell Combat: What spells can I cast when using spell combat?
The relevant text of the ability is:
"As a full-round action, he can make all of his attacks with his melee weapon at a –2 penalty and can also cast any spell from the magus spell list with a casting time of 1 standard action (any attack roll made as part of this spell also takes this penalty)."
The spell you cast when using spell combat has to be a magus spell you know, and it must be a magus spell prepared with one of your magus spell slots.
(Other magus abilities may modify what spells can be used with spell combat. For example, the broad study magus arcana explicitly states the magus can use spell combat to cast spells from the selected non-magus spellcasting class.)
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Wonderful, it's settled then.
Even if if you had to bump the thread with my post arguing the opposite interpretation at the top of the page. No, PDT, it's totally fine, I'll get someone else to pull this dagger out my back. I just didn't realize you had levels in knifemaster.
Spells gained through the Mystic Past Life alternate Samsaran racial trait are considered "Magus spells" for spell combat?
I would think so, as it certainly looks like it makes them class spells for your character specifically.
If you are able to prepare the spell in a Magus class slot and the spell is on the Magus spell list (or the list of spells you can explicitly use With Spell Combat), you can use it with Spell Combat. So if the racial trait adds it to your class spell list, and you can prep it in a Magus spell slot, you're good.
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I think for a beginning Magus it's both a) Magus Spell List and b) Magus Spell slots. However, there are things that can change that.
First off the Magus spell list can be expanded in 2 different ways;
1) by taking the Spell Blending magus arcana the Magus can expand their list by including Wizard Spells.
2) by taking the Hexcrafter archetype the Magus adds any 6th level or lower spell with a descriptor word of "curse" in it to their list.
Spells: A hexcrafter magus adds the following spells to his magus spell list: bestow curse, major curse, and all other spells of 6th level or lower that have the curse descriptor.
The wording in Spell Combat does say "Magus spell list", but it's not a static list when either of those 2 options are employed.
Secondly, the Magus can start casting spell from other spell slots for which they're multiclassed by taking the Broad Study magus arcana at level 6. However, any spells used from an arcane class that are subject to arcane spell failure also apply to the Magus' use of them. I read through all the posts here, but I still can't see how the writers would include Broad Study if the intent wasn't to allow for spell slots from other classes to be use with Spell Combat or Spellstrike.
I think that the broad study arcana could be useful. That arcana let you use another spell list other than yours magus spell list for spell combat and spellstrike, but don't let you ignore arcane Armor failure.
+1 to what black storm said.
So another +1 to Storm on that.
I think for a beginning Magus it's both a) Magus Spell List and b) Magus Spell slots. However, there are things that can change that.
First off the Magus spell list can be expanded in 2 different ways;
1) by taking the Spell Blending magus arcana the Magus can expand their list by including Wizard Spells.
2) by taking the Hexcrafter archetype the Magus adds any 6th level or lower spell with a descriptor word of "curse" in it to their list.
Spells: A hexcrafter magus adds the following spells to his magus spell list: bestow curse, major curse, and all other spells of 6th level or lower that have the curse descriptor.The wording in Spell Combat does say "Magus spell list", but it's not a static list when either of those 2 options are employed.
Secondly, the Magus can start casting spell from other spell slots for which they're multiclassed by taking the Broad Study magus arcana at level 6. However, any spells used from an arcane class that are subject to arcane spell failure also apply to the Magus' use of them. I read through all the posts here, but I still can't see how the writers would include Broad Study if the intent wasn't to allow for spell slots from other classes to be use with Spell Combat or Spellstrike.
I think that the broad study arcana could be useful. That arcana let you use another spell list other than yours magus spell list for spell combat and spellstrike, but don't let you ignore arcane Armor failure.+1 to what black storm said.So another +1 to Storm on that.
Up-thread, PDT posted that for the purposes of "Magus spell list" it must be cast from a spell slot provided by your Magus class. Can't really get any more official than that, it's a Paizo FAQ now.
There's not really any wiggle room here: Unless you take the appropriate arcana, a Shocking Grasp from your Wizard levels isn't prepared in a Magus spell slot, and therefore can't be used with Spell Combat, even though it's on the Magus spell list. If you take Broad Study, you can start using your Wizard spell slots with Spell Combat.
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Up-thread, PDT posted that for the purposes of "Magus spell list" it must be cast from a spell slot provided by your Magus class. Can't really get any more official than that, it's a Paizo FAQ now.
There's not really any wiggle room here: Unless you take the appropriate arcana, a Shocking Grasp from your Wizard levels isn't prepared in a Magus spell slot, and therefore can't be used with...
Argh, I missed the 2nd page when I read through the posts. I can see where broad study has been clarified now - my mistake. This wording in the PDT reply does still raise questions for me:
(Other magus abilities may modify what spells can be used with spell combat. For example, the broad study magus arcana explicitly states the magus can use spell combat to cast spells from the selected non-magus spellcasting class.)
Does that means spells from other classes that are prepared in a Magus Spell slot? If that isn't the case, then broad study IMO is a useless magus arcana.
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I think for a beginning Magus it's both a) Magus Spell List and b) Magus Spell slots. However, there are things that can change that.
First off the Magus spell list can be expanded in 2 different ways;
1) by taking the Spell Blending magus arcana the Magus can expand their list by including Wizard Spells.
2) by taking the Hexcrafter archetype the Magus adds any 6th level or lower spell with a descriptor word of "curse" in it to their list.
Spells: A hexcrafter magus adds the following spells to his magus spell list: bestow curse, major curse, and all other spells of 6th level or lower that have the curse descriptor.The wording in Spell Combat does say "Magus spell list", but it's not a static list when either of those 2 options are employed.
Secondly, the Magus can start casting spell from other spell slots for which they're multiclassed by taking the Broad Study magus arcana at level 6. However, any spells used from an arcane class that are subject to arcane spell failure also apply to the Magus' use of them. I read through all the posts here, but I still can't see how the writers would include Broad Study if the intent wasn't to allow for spell slots from other classes to be use with Spell Combat or Spellstrike.
I think that the broad study arcana could be useful. That arcana let you use another spell list other than yours magus spell list for spell combat and spellstrike, but don't let you ignore arcane Armor failure.+1 to what black storm said.So another +1 to Storm on that.
It is stated in the description of what broad study do:
Broad Study (Ex): The magus selects another one of his spellcasting classes. The magus can use his spellstrike and spell combat abilities while casting or using spells from the spell list of that class.
The PDT stated that the the "spells from the magus spell list" are those memorized in the magus spell slots, the "spells from the spell list of the class you have chosen with broad arcana" should work the same way, they should be spells that you have memorized in that other class spell slots.
I don't see where you get any doubt on how it work.
Assume you take Broad Study for a Wizard: Broad Study alters Spell Combat so that the text says, "You can cast any spell on your Magus or Wizard spell list..." Once you take it, any Magus or Wizard spell that you prepare using a Magus or Wizard spell slot can be used with Spell Combat.
As an aside: It'd be interesting to do a Magus\Cleric cross-class, with Broad Study for Cleric, because as written you could then take a full attack action while using Cure spells on an ally adjacent to you.
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Thanks Diego and Xaratherus for confirming/clarifying. The last paragraph in the PDT through me, but I can see it was as I originally thought.
As an aside: It'd be interesting to do a Magus\Cleric cross-class, with Broad Study for Cleric, because as written you could then take a full attack action while using Cure spells on an ally adjacent to you.
Yeah that definitely opens up a lot of possibilities, not to mention that the Cleric spells aren't subject to failure from armor. I was strongly leaning in the direction of making my Magus a Hexcrafter and a big attraction to that was the Witches' Healing Hex, but this does sound like it might be better and you don't have to sacrifice Spell Recall.
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Your all forgetting one thing.
Each class prepairs their spells differently. Even if a magus 10/wizard 10 chooses to prepare true strike using all of his first level spells. The Wizard spell of True Strike is different then the Magus version of True Strike is. If he needs to have both versions written in the spell book(and raw he would) its not the same spell.
The wizard version would be more formal or high magic version of forcing your will on the world.
Magus version is more flowing, instinctive less demanding it happening and more it just does.
So I beg to differ with those of you that Wish it were so. But no raw seems to be having to have multiple versions of the same spell in the book. Which to me means that No way in heck would I be able to use my wizard slots for magus abilities, likewise I would not be able to use my bonded weapon from the wizard to cast spell that appears on the magus list and not wizard.
Your all forgetting one thing.
Each class prepairs their spells differently. Even if a magus 10/wizard 10 chooses to prepare true strike using all of his first level spells. The Wizard spell of True Strike is different then the Magus version of True Strike is. If he needs to have both versions written in the spell book(and raw he would) its not the same spell.
The wizard version would be more formal or high magic version of forcing your will on the world.
Magus version is more flowing, instinctive less demanding it happening and more it just does.
So I beg to differ with those of you that Wish it were so. But no raw seems to be having to have multiple versions of the same spell in the book. Which to me means that No way in heck would I be able to use my wizard slots for magus abilities, likewise I would not be able to use my bonded weapon from the wizard to cast spell that appears on the magus list and not wizard.
You are just making that stuff up? A wizard can learn true strike from a magus book and the other way around.