Lightbringer VS Glitterdust


Rules Questions


Lightbringer: Many elves revere the sun, moon, and stars, but some are literally infused with the radiant power of the heavens. Elves with this racial trait are immune to light-based blindness and dazzle effects, and are treated as one level higher when determining the effects of any light-based spell or effect they cast (including spell-like and supernatural abilities). Elves with Intelligence scores of 10 or higher may use light at will as a spell-like ability. This racial trait replaces the elven immunities and elven magic racial traits.

Glitterdust: http://www.d20pfsrd.com/magic/all-spells/g/glitterdust

The spell has no light descriptor The description is open to interpretation..

Is it the actual flakes of dust getting into your eyes that produces the blindness or is it the light that said dust produces that blinds?

Would a lightbringer elf be immune to the glitterdust blinding effect or not?


Lightbringer: Many elves revere the sun, moon, and stars, but some are literally infused with the radiant power of the heavens. Elves with this racial trait are immune to light-based blindness and dazzle effects, and are treated as one level higher when determining the effects of any light-based spell or effect they cast (including spell-like and supernatural abilities). Elves with Intelligence scores of 10 or higher may use light at will as a spell-like ability. This racial trait replaces the elven immunities and elven magic racial traits.

Dazzled: The creature is unable to see well because of overstimulation of the eyes. A dazzled creature takes a –1 penalty on attack rolls and sight-based Perception checks.

Glitterdust
School conjuration (creation); Level bard 2, sorcerer/wizard 2
Casting Time 1 standard action Components V, S, M (ground mica)
Range medium (100 ft. + 10 ft./level)Area creatures and objects within 10-ft.-radius spread Duration 1 round/level Save Will negates (blinding only); SR no
A cloud of golden particles covers everyone and everything in the area, causing creatures to become blinded and visibly outlining invisible things for the duration of the spell. All within the area are covered by the dust, which cannot be removed and continues to sparkle until it fades. Each round at the end of their turn blinded creatures may attempt new saving throws to end the blindness effect. Any creature covered by the dust takes a –40 penalty on Stealth checks.

no does not look like it because dazzle is a affliction not a word used for RAI

Sczarni

the trick is in the spell description, Conjuration, it's physically making glitter...

it's glitter in your eyes, like a bad Ke$ha concert.


@ Thomas A
Both lightbased blindness and dazzle effects are mentioned in the lightbringer alternate trait. I'm not interested in the latter part since that doesn't apply at all. It's the Light based blindness immunity that has me asking this question..

@Lantzkev Exactly why I'm in doubt. The spell physically creates glitter that sticks to you, but is said glitter a light based effect when it forces you to roll a save vs getting blinded or is it a physical effect where the dust gets into your eyes, making you blind.

The will save implies it light based
A reflex save would make more sense (IMO) if it was a physical effect.


Although the dust presumably glitters, the spell description does not dictate that it emanates light; it would also be valid to interpret that the glittering is merely refracting ambient light. Further, it does not have the light descriptor.

I feel the Will save used could also imply that it requires willpower to keep your eyes open when there is glitter in them, though I agree I would first have expected Fortitude.


I'll run it by my GM to see what he's thinking ;) Was just curious about it since I haven't been a player for ages so my munchkin tendencies are itchy after a 3 year stint of being the GM :P

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