Aioran |
Each domain grants a number of domain powers, dependent upon the level of the cleric, as well as a number of bonus spells. A cleric gains one domain spell slot for each level of cleric spell she can cast, from 1st on up. Each day, a cleric can prepare one of the spells from her two domains in that slot. If a domain spell is not on the cleric spell list, a cleric can prepare it only in her domain spell slot. Domain spells cannot be used to cast spells spontaneously.
In addition, a cleric gains the listed powers from both of her domains, if she is of a high enough level. Unless otherwise noted, activating a domain power is a standard action.
You'll note that 'domain power' and 'domain spell' are separately defined terms.
(Also, when looking at domains you'll notice that it is divided into those two separate features.)
Granted Powers: You are an explorer and find enlightenment in the simple joy of travel, be it by foot or conveyance or magic. Increase your base speed by 10 feet.
Agile Feet (Su): As a free action, you can gain increased mobility for 1 round. For the next round, you ignore all difficult terrain and do not take any penalties for moving through it. You can use this ability a number of times per day equal to 3 + your Wisdom modifier.
Dimensional Hop (Sp): At 8th level, you can teleport up to 10 feet per cleric level per day as a move action. This teleportation must be used in 5-foot increments and such movement does not provoke attacks of opportunity. You must have line of sight to your destination to use this ability. You can bring other willing creatures with you, but you must expend an equal amount of distance for each creature brought.
Domain Spells: 1st—longstrider, 2nd—locate object, 3rd—fly, 4th—dimension door, 5th—teleport, 6th—find the path, 7th—greater teleport, 8th—phase door, 9th—astral projection.
Theologian does not get +2 CL to domain spells.
trollbill |
No. If the theologian had been meant to gain +2 caster levels for divine spells they would have stated such.
Right...because the rules for Pathfinder are never ambiguous.
Granted powers are clearly defined, domain spells are also clearly defined and they are not the same thing.
I understand the interpretation but the rules clearly define spells as power and they also clearly define domain spells as being granted by the domain.
I wouldn't mind an FAQ on this either, though.
Vincent The Dark |
In all other respects, this works like and replaces the standard cleric domain ability.
ShadowcatX |
ShadowcatX wrote:Granted powers are clearly defined, domain spells are also clearly defined and they are not the same thing.I understand the interpretation but the rules clearly define spells as power and they also clearly define domain spells as being granted by the domain.
I wouldn't mind an FAQ on this either, though.
Domain powers are clearly defined. You can try and play word games, but really, there are actually confusing issues that need FAQs.
SeeleyOne |
This does not allow her to gain domain-granted powers earlier than normal
That implies that it does, in fact, affect the caster level for the Domain spells. I have to say that I am with Vincent the Dark on this one. If it does not give that benefit, it is not a decent trade for losing a Domain.
Xaratherus |
You all missed the big power here.. the trade for the Domain is NOT a higher caster level at all.. its the I CAN PUT MY DOMAIN SLOTS IN MY REGULAR SLOTS bonus.. I cant see how you missed that.
I actually had missed that. Thank you for pointing that out, because it's fairly freakin' huge, given that there are some very potent domain spells to which Clerics don't normally gain access...
Endoralis |
Endoralis wrote:You all missed the big power here.. the trade for the Domain is NOT a higher caster level at all.. its the I CAN PUT MY DOMAIN SLOTS IN MY REGULAR SLOTS bonus.. I cant see how you missed that.I actually had missed that. Thank you for pointing that out, because it's fairly freakin' huge, given that there are some very potent domain spells to which Clerics don't normally gain access...
Like I dunno.. the PROTECTION DOMAIN...Or some choice others
trollbill |
trollbill wrote:Domain powers are clearly defined. You can try and play word games, but really, there are actually confusing issues that need FAQs.ShadowcatX wrote:Granted powers are clearly defined, domain spells are also clearly defined and they are not the same thing.I understand the interpretation but the rules clearly define spells as power and they also clearly define domain spells as being granted by the domain.
I wouldn't mind an FAQ on this either, though.
It's not word games. It's how I see the RAI. Regardless, I have already conceded the point.
trollbill |
Endoralis wrote:You all missed the big power here.. the trade for the Domain is NOT a higher caster level at all.. its the I CAN PUT MY DOMAIN SLOTS IN MY REGULAR SLOTS bonus.. I cant see how you missed that.I actually had missed that. Thank you for pointing that out, because it's fairly freakin' huge, given that there are some very potent domain spells to which Clerics don't normally gain access...
It's important to note that when you use this ability you cannot convert those spells spontaneously into Cures.
ShadowcatX |
This does not allow her to gain domain-granted powers earlier than normal
That implies that it does, in fact, affect the caster level for the Domain spells. I have to say that I am with Vincent the Dark on this one. If it does not give that benefit, it is not a decent trade for losing a Domain.
How? What?
That sentence has absolutely nothing to do with domain spells. That simply states that while you gain +2 levels for using your domain powers, you do not, in fact, get them earlier than normal.
Example:
An animal domain cleric would still get his animal companion at level 4, but would have a druid level of 3, rather than 1, when he got the power because he's at +2 levels.