I tend to play melees, or light fighters (rog/fighter, ranger) so I am not the most up-to date on caster feats. I am thinking up a character that is a Sorc, either infernal or Abyssal. Her soul was tainted by external magic/experiments and now, "We are Legion!" channels out of her; essentially each of her spells is accessing a different Demon/Devil to activate an effect.
Any ideas for feats? And should she be Infernal or Abyssal?
She does not remember much of what happened after she arrived at the new training. It is all a blur of pain, pleasure, all induced by the school's master with the intention of making a new vessel of power for his use. Karri's blood was tainted with devil's blood. Her soul marked as property and simply waiting for its eventual Hellbound descent...
The Master taught her to channel her newfound power, but all the while, the spark that was her old self railed against what had happened to her. She barely slept and was prone to mistakes in her training. These errors were always punished severely; her back bears many scars as a mute testimony to her trials.
sounds like a cool background for a cross-blooded infernal/Abyssal sorc
reach spell + usual metamagic. Give a serious though to toughtness and iron will/great fortitude. You can't use any meta till level 7+ so the low level feat should go into survaivability.
I'd recommend the pit-touched bloodline. You will become more and more resistant as you level up, and it's based on infernal. So it still fits your theme :-)
I recommend the feats improved initiative, great fortitude, toughness, at least one elemental metamagic feat (to convert spells into useful equivalents), quicken spell and some other metamagic feats. One of the strengths of the spontaneous caster is applying metamagic on the fly. If you go with the bloodline you could focus on the intimidate part of it to make your opponents shaken (or worse with more feats) and thus reduce their saves.
Here is a quick-draft workup :)
@ Templar: I don't think I really like the -2 to Will Saves for being Crossblooded, but it *really* jives with the character concept... this is a moment when Crunch and Fluff are struggling for supremacy ;)
@ Sangalor: Pit-Touched is pretty cool... let me work that up later!
@ everyone: Thank you for the advice :)
@ Templar: I don't think I really like the -2 to Will Saves for being Crossblooded, but it *really* jives with the character concept... this is a moment when Crunch and Fluff are struggling for supremacy ;)
@ Sangalor: Pit-Touched is pretty cool... let me work that up later!
@ everyone: Thank you for the advice :)
if you want the crossblooded thing consider taking eldritch heritage. You do not need *all* the powers, after all, just some of them may give you the necessary feeling :-) Just costs you a skill focus and 1-4 extra feats.
Glad you like the idea of pit-touched.
Looks like a couple of different paths...
@ Mors: About Tiefling, I had no intention of making Karri non-Human. At the same time, in Blood of Fiends it talks about how some Tieflings manifest in adolescence. Maybe Karri was 'chosen' because of her heritage, unbeknownst to her or her parents? I will have to look at the Tiefling variants before I make a decision on that. Will most likely stick with Demon or Devil born. Was there a *specific* reason for Kyton-blooded? Theme is important to me, but a character does have to fulfill their party obligation. :)
If I go focused on Summons, what are some choice feats? SF Conjuration; Augment Summoning; and Superior Summoning (I am at work and cannot check SRD from here :( ) are all obvious, but what else?
Crossblooded lose 1 spell know of each level included the highest one, meaning you are going to get your first 3° level spell at level 7 ecc. It's g&%!#&n awfull for anything but a single level dip.
Yeah, that too, Dekalinder. I was not enjoying the extremely limited casting on an extremely limited caster...
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From a purely flavor perspective, I'd go with either Infernal or Pit-touched if you're from Westcrown. If you're adventuring in Cheliax and you have Abyssal blood, you might have some trouble with Hellknights.
Also, flavor-wise, I wouldn't take Varisian Tattoo or Tattoo Sorcerer unless you're actually playing a Varisian. A Chelaxian with Varisian Tattoos just seems out-of-place to me.
With the Infernal bloodline, I'd take Spell Focus (Enchantment) as one of my feats to double-down on the charm stuff. Improved Initiative would be the other feat. If you win initiative, you can charm the target before your party has engaged and avoid the will save penalty.
I need to do a bit more research on Varisian Tat's, but (if you will pardon the pun) I think they'd eb easy to reskin to her flesh being imbued with essence of hell/abyss. :)
Moving closer to final...
1) Pit Touched, Enchantment based: Imp Init and SF Enchantments
2) Abyssal, Summons based: Imp Init, SF Conj, Aug Summons
Either Human or Tiefling; Tiefling might be better for Pit Touched enchanter (higher CHA, plus Fiendish Sorcery...)
Crossblooded is off the list: simply too much lost (spells, will saves :( ) and too little gained (more flexible bloodline powers? *woot* Sounds good, anyway :( )
For being Abyssal in Cheliax... well, it was a 'shadow program' that 'made' her! :D
I tend to play melees, or light fighters (rog/fighter, ranger) so I am not the most up-to date on caster feats. I am thinking up a character that is a Sorc, either infernal or Abyssal. Her soul was tainted by external magic/experiments and now, "We are Legion!" channels out of her; essentially each of her spells is accessing a different Demon/Devil to activate an effect.
Any ideas for feats? And should she be Infernal or Abyssal?
When designing Sorcerers I will very often choose a bloodline and then take Eldritch Heritage feats to add abilities from a complimentary bloodline as well. Lots of options here - I'd reccomend that you go Abyssal in this particular case and then consider adding Infernal or Arcane via EH.
I would avoid focusing on Summoning as a Sorcerer due to the lag in progression, though in the later levels when you start topping out - especially with the Abyssal bump - it can be very potent.
Alternately, you could explore a Summoner with a Demonic looking eidolon or a Master Summoner who focused on summoning fiendish and infernal creatures. That would make for a very potent character, especially when combined with EH options.
@ Wiggz, Mors: Not Summoner :) I am one of *those* players that thinks they can waaaaaay unbalance a game and my group is not 'rules heavy'
@ Mors: per the PRD, Sorcs *must* take pre-reqs on Bonus Feats, so, Augment Summons would require SF-Conj.
At 7th level, and every six levels thereafter, a sorcerer receives one bonus feat, chosen from a list specific to each bloodline. The sorcerer must meet the prerequisites for these bonus feats.
I was just visualizing her casting a summon xyz spell... She concentrates, chants a mantra, her head snaps back and her eyes go (dead/green glowing!) and she reaches into her own flesh to pull out whatever creature she is calling! That would look good in the movie! I think that could be called "Varisian Tattooes" :)
Revamped Karri Chouk
How does that look to the experts?
I would still prefer Mount over SMI. The horse is tougher and the duration is longer. Also at first lvl Color Spray is king. I find Grease better than Stumble Gap too. Other than that you are good to go.
The mount isn't combat trained. Some GMs won't make it work in combat due to that.
I also think Sleep is better than Color Spray at first level, because of range, and both will be replaced soon. Color Spray last a bit longer, but not really much more.
At the very least, Mount is an 'escape route' and trap springer :) Yerah, Stumble Gap is not all that, but, I wanted something that emphasised her SF Conj. *shrug* I will probably make it either Color Spray or Sleep... both have pros and cons :)
At the very least, Mount is an 'escape route' and trap springer :) Yerah, Stumble Gap is not all that, but, I wanted something that emphasised her SF Conj. *shrug* I will probably make it either Color Spray or Sleep... both have pros and cons :)
I've just started a Sage Sorcerer based on telepathy and telekinetic powers this weekend in Rise of Runelords. I was thinking to take Color Spray as my first "I Win Button", but I finally choosed Sleep. The reason is I have AC 10 and 8 hp, with little ways to defend myself yet. I'm more confortable moving behind my B.S.F. and casting from there, than going to the close front. By the time I have Mirror Image that might change, but right now at level 1, I found Sleep to be much more useful. I took down 75% of the enemies in the first few encounters, with no risks. DC 18 sleep at 1st level is cool :P
By 4th level I'll swap it.