RAW: Shooting past friendlies -- clarification needed


Rules Questions


RAW states that if you are shooting (an arrow, for example) into combat then you get a -4 to hit and the enemy potentially gets a +4 to their armor class based on limited/soft cover.

Would that archer get an additional -4 to hit if he had to shoot past more than one friendly?

Example:

Archer >>----> ----> FRIENDLY ----> FRIENDLY / TARGET

In this instance, there are 2 friendlies in the way and the target is engaged.

A -4 to hit would be granted and the target would get a +4 because they have partial cover from the friendly.

However since there are two friendlies in the way, would the penalty stack? Would the archer get a -4(x2)? Would the target get an additional potential cover bonus?

Thanks for the guidance.


For the purposes of the -4 penalty combat is only defined as having a friendly adjacent to the enemy and won't stack for more than one friendly being adjacent. I don't have time to get the quote from Ch. 8 of the Core, but I'm sure someone will.

~NPEH


The way I'm reading it:

"If you shoot or throw a ranged weapon at a target engaged in melee with a friendly character, you take a –4 penalty on your attack roll."

It's nothing to do with the number of characters the shot goes past, but whether or not the target is fighting a friendly (and it goes on to state this applies only as long as they're within 10 feet)

As it only mentions a -4 penalty, and not one per opponent, I'd say that's clear enough to mean it doesn't stack.

That said, if I were GMing (in a home game) and the target was swarming with friendlies, common sense would dictate a larger penalty.

Cover - this works as a binary "you're either in cover or not". It doesn't say it stacks for how many pieces of cover there are, so I don't see it stacking for bodies either. You could possibly rule that enough bodies in the way makes it "Improved Cover" though, but that sounds like a GM call depending on circumstances.


Nope. Cover bonuses don't stack.

Shoot between ALL of their legs!

Shadow Lodge

Cover is cover.

It does not stack.

It can become improved cover or partial cover but that is it.

Dark Archive

now if the friendly is in melee, there is a -4 shooting into melee penalty and the cover penalty.


Name Violation wrote:

now if the friendly is in melee, there is a -4 shooting into melee penalty and the cover penalty.

Right, but the take away here is that it is ONLY EVER -4 / +4, never "oh well since you're shooting past 3 friendlies, that's -12 and +4 for cover.

Thanks gents.

Dark Archive

And remember, a halfling only provides cover to a human archer if the halfling is closer to the target than he is to the archer. :)

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