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*crosses his fingers for Big Hero 6 and/or Agents of Atlas*
or Ghost Rider. a Ghost Rider series would be cool
I've been less happy with some of the MCU shows of late...I would much rather see at this point a Ghostrider MOVIE than a show.
MMC,
We tried that. That's how we got two less than stellar movies. Admittedly I like Robbie Reyes, but if they did a movie with him, it should be about him trying to find Johnny Blaze.
Happy and surprised it got a 6th season but too bad only 13 episodes.
The next season has to be all about dealing with the whole 50% gone thing.
MMC,
We tried that. That's how we got two less than stellar movies. Admittedly I like Robbie Reyes, but if they did a movie with him, it should be about him trying to find Johnny Blaze.
I'd prefer Robbie Reyes be a focus for a movie...Johnny Blaze can be an older Hank Pym esq character.
Robbie as Ghostrider also seems a smart move if they want to push the MCU in a more diverse direction ala Captain Marvel and Black Panther. There is...what? one latino character in all of the movie MCU? Also muscle car ghost rider might be a bit more relevant than a stunt motorcycle rider. See: the one billion Fast and Furious movies
Hell that would be a great angle to take. Do a Ghost Rider movie as a supernatural Fast and Furious...
I would prefer Johnny Blaze for the movies, the motorcycle is too iconic, and the car thing would be too much like the Fast and the Furious movies.
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Per the ABC upfront, "Marvel drama “Agents of SHIELD” is slated for a 13-episode run in summer 2019."
So that explains how Agents of Shield will handle the 50% of the population dying due to Thanos - it will wait until after Avengers 4.
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Good to know about that Joel.
Look I get Johnny Blaze is a classic, but I think if we can update Thanos, we can CERTAINLY update Ghost Rider to let him be Robbie Reyes searching for Johnny Blaze and doing a F&F type deal along with the Supernatural elements.
Per the ABC upfront, "Marvel drama “Agents of SHIELD” is slated for a 13-episode run in summer 2019."
So that explains how Agents of Shield will handle the 50% of the population dying due to Thanos - it will wait until after Avengers 4.
probably a smart move but not as entertaining. I feel like they could have a good story in their.
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Per the ABC upfront, "Marvel drama “Agents of SHIELD” is slated for a 13-episode run in summer 2019."
So that explains how Agents of Shield will handle the 50% of the population dying due to Thanos - it will wait until after Avengers 4.
I saw that and wondered if Avengers 4 is going to take place immediately after Inifinity War. If that's the case, it makes sense of AoS to wait until summer because they'd otherwise have to fit the show into that short amount of time between movies.
I'm with Skeld. Some decisions are pretty dumb made by some smart people. If Reed Richards actually knew what he was doing, we'd all be in deep trouble by now.
In any case, Coulson's decisions, while not always the best, are better than some I've seen on TV or anywhere else.
Yeah no I heart me some Coulson The actor is great too. I love watching him get interviewed about the marvel shows cause he nerds out so hard!
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May, at some point, transitioned from badass to memetic badass (tell, don't show), and I'm less impressed with her than I was. The line, 'I'll take a gun if I need one,' particularly grates my cheese. She was super-practical, for a long time, now she's just kind of being cocky and overconfident, and I don't like that, since it suggests that she's due for a comeuppance (and if she *doesn't* get a comeuppance, it's just bad writing! If there's one thing I hate more than a character I like making bad decisions, it's a character making bad decisions and being rewarded for it by the writing!).
To be fair she's always been Cocky and overconfident. One of my favorite 'May lines' was in that episode that Lorelia mind-whammied Ward.
*Slightly paraphrased*
"Ward will kill you"
"Ward won't kill me."
"Don't underestimate her power over him. He obeys her now."
"I didn't say he wouldn't TRY to kill me..."
And then to be fair... lost that fight. Didn't die, but did get her butt kicked pretty hard.
...I don't recall typing ANY of that...
Good to know about that Joel.
Look I get Johnny Blaze is a classic, but I think if we can update Thanos, we can CERTAINLY update Ghost Rider to let him be Robbie Reyes searching for Johnny Blaze and doing a F&F type deal along with the Supernatural elements.
Honestly, my FAVORITE Johnny Blaze incarnation was the Hellfire shotgun hunting down what he thought was the demon that had possessed him then teaming up to take on other evils.
Give him the flaming cycle.. the shotgun... and let Reyes keep the flaming skull. As it is, he still has the chain, the skull, the stare... and pretty much everything that people loved about Blaze's ghost rider... which in all honesty was stolen from everything people loved about Dan Ketch's Ghost Rider.
Johnny Blaze = Stunt cycle is pretty much the only part of the original Ghost Rider that still exists in any form now days... everything else is Ketch.
...I don't recall typing ANY of that...
Huh... yeah... looks like an editing mistake on my part. It's me replying to Set... You were cut right out of it >.<
My bad,
Sokay Phantom on the cut out.
Yes I am aware much of what we get from Ghost Rider came from Danny Ketch, not Johnny Blaze. But things evolve over time. Or have you forgotten about when Cap was Nomad?
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Yes I am aware much of what we get from Ghost Rider came from Danny Ketch, not Johnny Blaze. But things evolve over time. Or have you forgotten about when Cap was Nomad?
Mmmmm… not really sure the correlation there. Cap evolved then went back to normal sure... But Ghost Rider has pretty much just become a template with whatever secret identity they want to slap on him.
For example... Johnny Blaze Ghost Rider was possessed by the demon Zarathos. He could generate a motorcycle out of fire. He could shoot fire out of his hands... he wore the blue stunt rider suit.
He had a TON of writers in his first 3 years, so his stories were ALL over the place where he sometimes showed up when it was dark... sometimes when he was angry... sometimes when evil was around... they tried a dozen things before they settled on a solid concept... those early issues were WILD...
Danny Ketch was NOT a demon. He was the 'spirit of Vengeneance' who showed up when innocent blood was spilled. He used a mystic chain to beat the crap out of people. he had the penance stare. His bike transformed from normal bike to hellbike (which some of the early Johnny books did too, but 'create hellbike' became iconic.
People love 'Johnny Blaze' as a character. the Daredevil stunt rider is a cool twist... but that's ALL they like. The Ghost Rider who is NOT evil, the chains, the spikes, the stare... That was all Danny but has been totally usurped by Blaze in the movies and any comics post 2000.
When people think 'Ghost Rider'... it's Ketch's Rider they're thinking of, not the maniacal demon Zarathos who just wants to break free of Blaze's control and run rampant on the innocents. But Danny as a 'secret Id' was really boring. So they just smushed the two together.
Reye's isn't much different. in the comics theres' a lot of disconnect... but in Agents of Shield, He used the chain, had an actual skull and not a racing helmet... and was a pretty kick butt cool if 'traditional' Ghost Rider.
If they jettison Ketch and keep Reye's with the same attitude as all the any other Ghost Rider... and had Blaze on a bike right next to him, as a new 'Spirits of Vengeance' team, I'm pretty sure most people could be happy with the result.
Green,
Yeah but it wasn't HIS shield nor did he go back to wearing his traditional suit...
Phantom,
I'm not saying you couldn't do that on a show, or even in the comics. It's just not something people have clamored for JUST yet.
So...that happened...
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.....kind of annoyed by that end actually
If Avengers 4 does the whole time travel thing, I wonder what will change, if anything, that happened on this show.
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Making bad decisions because of feelings is a good narrative device and a very human one which can be easy to relate too, but I strongly dislike the need most (American?) shows have to have these decisions be shown to be the right ones, especially when they lead to worse problems.
The "director" is now Mac. The person on the team who doesn't want to deal with tough decisions, actively avoids them, and then lashes out on those who have to make those decisions. And now he's the one in charge. That will obviously go brilliantly. </sarcasm>
Spoilers for Infinity Wars post-credit scene:
SK,
I don't see how so considering NO ONE else knows that SHIELD a) exists and b) isn't a terrorist group except AFTER the whole thing with Graviton.
Also Mack as the Director DOES work for me. Especially because eventually Daisy MIGHT step up.
As for time travel being involved...no idea but I figure it won't change Coulson's timeline in terms of Ghost Rider burning out the alien part of him.
Deke DID disappear because all his stuff is gone. Now whether he comes back...depends on more time travel.
Not my best or favorite ending but eh, we have until the summer of 2019 to figure it all out.
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I did like that Coulson and May got time in Tahiti as his retirement, even if only for a short while. Liked the bookending of his story there.
Also, we don't know fully what happens to Coulson in Captain Marvel. For all we know he's exposed to something there which "doesn't have any long term affects", but impacts Agents of Shield S6. Weirder things have happened in comics.
Joel is right. I've seen some PRETTY weird Marvel comics stuff.
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Clark Gregg knows the show was renewed, but is not currently scheduled to be a part of it.
Of course, Kit Harrington was done and not coming back also.
My notion is that the season will start without much mention of Coulson, other than a sullen May either already being back with the team or rejoining quickly, with no comment about Coulson other than 'well he's not here' or 'he's not coming back' or 'he's gone,' and then, mid-season-ish, he'll show up as the cavalry at a tense 'all hope is lost, we aren't going to get out of this...' moment and quip that reports of his death have been greatly exaggerated.
But then 'he'll' turn out to be an LMD anyway. Double fake-out for the win! :)
We got to kill the character, *and* keep using the actor! It's like eating the cake, and yet also getting to still have the cake! Like with Grant Ward / Brett Dalton. He's dead! He's back! He's dead again! He's back again!
I wish Daisy was this strong when she fought Hive.
I am OK with Mack being Director.
It will be nice seeing Coulson in the movies again.
Set,
I think they're pretty much done with LMDs after last season...though I could be wrong.
I'm in agreement with Dragon, though I doubt they'll bring Coulson back to any movies...unless it's to help train Spiderman or someone other younger Avengers.
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Maybe I'm just dumb, but
(a-i) How did whatever breaking the time loop kill Fitz?
(b) How did Daisy survive being rammed into the ground from a half-mile up, without access to her power?
(c) What was Quake thinking when she injected herself with the serum? What did she think it was going to do? Keep her organs from failing? Pumping Centipede Serum into you just acts like Dimethyl Sulfate, allowing other drugs to affect you. Gravotron was absorbing her. Did she think it was the poison?
(d) What *did* it do to her? Give her a power boost to send Talbot high enough to pass out, before he could bring his own powrs to bear? Because I gotta say, if he has any singular power, it's resisting being pushed up.
(e) Isn't Chicago built on top of a swamp?
(a-i) Doesn't matter, because
(e) Yes; Chicago's bedrock starts as much as 85' underground.
Otherwise, good questions for which I have no answer.
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Maybe I'm just dumb, but ** spoiler omitted **
My guesses;
A) Someone (May, Daisy, heck, maybe even Gemma or Mack) injected him with the cure while he was unconscious and unable to refuse it.
A-1) No idea. For that matter, according to multiverse theory, that other future still exists, it just isn't *their* future any more, so, in theory, Flint is still out there in some alternate future reassembling the planet. Maybe Deke just took his stuff and went somewhere to pawn it, and plans on living out the remainder of his life as far away from the Lighthouse as possible. (I surely would!)
B) No idea, and that particularly bugged me. If they'd shown her using her quake power to cushion the impact, that at least would have made sense. She should have been a red smear at the bottom of that crater.
C) *If* she'd been horribly injured by the crater-making impact in the previous question, it would have made sense that injecting herself with the centipede serum, containing her mother's regenerative cells, would have helped her survive. But she wasn't, and the healing blood instead somehow boosted her Inhuman powers, which makes zero sense. And yet she apparently knew it was going to happen, because, apparently, she had read the script?
D) Yeah, no idea. Apparently a power boost, and yet a dumb one, because, as you say, Graviton is not the kind of guy you beat by pushing up. He's the kind of guy you beat by quaking his internal organs into jelly, something that his control of gravity won't be able to stop in time to save his life.
E) Eh, I give them points for not using New York. I won't ding them for not bothering to do any research at all on Chicago. :)
My guess is about the power boost; Jiyang's power, which regenerates cells, MIGHT super charge the Inhuman DNA. Also let's not forget that the Centipede serum had elements of Super Soldier, Gamma Radiation enhancement AND Extremis. That combo MIGHT account for powering up Daisy, albeit temporary.
As for her surviving the fall, maybe Graviton/Glenn decided to put the brakes on at the last second so as not to render her a pile of blood and bone.
As for her surviving the fall, maybe Graviton/Glenn decided to put the brakes on at the last second so as not to render her a pile of blood and bone.
My take...if his plan it to absorb her and gain her powers, probably more effective to do that when she is alive
And yeah...that is super soldier serum. I assume it amped up her powers by a huge bit.
Set,
I think they're pretty much done with LMDs after last season...though I could be wrong.
I'm in agreement with Dragon, though I doubt they'll bring Coulson back to any movies...unless it's to help train Spiderman or someone other younger Avengers.
Actually, Coulson is coming back for Captain Marvel, which he says includes his "origin story" in recent interviews, what with it being set in the 90's
MMC,
Origin story, meaning it's not him in 2018 or 2019. I don't see how that helps when Avengers 4 shows up.
And yeah that might be his plan, but I still think he just didn't feel like out right killing her.
I'm glad it was not just me who was a little confused.
Good point, Corathov.
Green,
Well since she didn't explode from the first try, I'd say stable enough to last for what she needed.
Vid,
We're always confused by reasons that don't make actual sense.