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I honestly don't know the exact difference. We're playing this in pfs front to back the entire way, and go anywhere we please in the game. We managed to finally complete part one last time we met. We're expecting the fourth sheet, and told it'll come from us playing this.
How does the bonus sheet work? I was told in total it gives 9k gp, 12pp and 9xp
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Rapanuii, your GM is confused. The bonus sheet gives some amount of gold, 4 pp, and 3 XP, just like any other sheet. You only get that sheet if you play in campaign/homegame mode. (Which means you shouldn't be getting ANY chronicle sheets until the very end of the module).
Basically, you have two characters. You are playing a home-game character that will start at 1st level and go to 7th level by the end, if you do every little sidequest and whatnot. But once that character finishes the module, he or she is done.
Then, you get 4 sheets that you put onto a PFS character.
If you really liked your character and want to recreate him or her, sure, feel free to do that. The character will be 4th level (from applying Sheets 1,4,and 2), and once you get to 5th level you can apply sheet 3, bumping up to 6th level.
(I can sorta see why a GM might be confused about the 4th sheet; it has separate tiers for levels 2, 4, and 6. But just like any other Chronicle sheet, you only get to apply it once, at one of those tiers, not all 3).
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If you want a reference to read for yourself or to show your GM, this blog post states pretty clearly that each of the sheets award 3xp and 4PP, and explains the options for playing the module.
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Again, if you are playing it "cover to cover" in homegame/campaign mode, you should not be getting sheets until you are done with the whole thing. You don't need a sheet to be a 2nd level character in a home game, your GM just tells you you've earned enough XP to level.
If you are playing it with existing PFS characters (not as a home game), then a) you don't get the bonus fourth sheet and b) no, you need to to be within levels 5-7 to play part 3.
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And before you think "our time has been waisted / we have been doing it wrong!": there is a simple way to changing the playing the module from PFS mode to campaign mode, just agree with your entire group that you will change the way you play the module going forward.
After that decision has been made your GM can assign XP / gold / items when he sees fit. After you have completed the entire module you get all four chronicles as explained earlier to assign to a PFS character.
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Everyone makes mistakes, learn from them and move on.
Now that sounded / read a bit harsher than I meant it. What I meant is do not be upset that you did things wrong. Be glad that you found your mistakes and that you found a place to get advice. After all, this is a game and you spend time on it because you like it (at least I hope you do).
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If your group is playing Dragons Demand cover to cover these are the highlights of how to earn and apply credit to a PFS character based on the instructions from campaign leadership in This Post from earlier in this thread.
1. Everyone makes characters. Since this is campaign "homegame" mode, the characters do not have to conform to the PFS rules. If you milk all of the XP out of the module it will get the group to level 7, but the PFS credit only grants a total of 4 levels of XP. The characters you used are now homegame characters and not PFS legal. When you finish the game these versions of the characters will be thrown away.
2. When you finish the entire module you earn all 4 chronicle sheets that come in the download to apply to a single legal PFS character. You do not earn them as you finish each chunk. You can refuse the 4th sheet, but still doesn't change when you can get the chronicle sheets.
3. Apply the sheets to a legal PFS character. If you do not already have a legal character in the level range make a new PFS legal level 1 character to apply the sheets to in the order I outlined in my previous post. This character may or may not mirror the starting stats of the character used to play the module.
If your group is just playing the small sanctioned chunks here is how you earn and apply credit. You can't mix players using the two methods.
1. Everyone uses a legal PFS character to play only the sanctioned bits outlined on Chronicle Sheets 1, 2 and 3. You do not earn the bonus #4 chronicle using this method.
2. As you complete each section you earn and apply the chronicle sheet as normal.
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Chronicle sheets for The Dragon's Demand are now available for download.
sorry to flog a dead horse. I played my first chr in dragons demand yet played other pfs stuff in between due to scheduling conflicts with the party. This put me at lvl 7 for the 3rd chronicle and was denied 4thchronicle on the premise it says lvl 6.
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If you played other PFS games between sessions of Dragon's Demand with the same character then you were not playing in home game/campaign mode and are not eligible for the bonus chronicle sheet.
Not really accurate, since home campaign mode does not limit you from not playing your character in other scenarios while playing the AP or Dragon's demand. It is feasible to play in campaign mode and finishes sanctioned areas for the chronicle sheet while still playing the PFS character in normal scenarios. That said it is not a good idea because you can get into situations that LordoShadow got into.
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If you played other PFS games between sessions of Dragon's Demand with the same character then you were not playing in home game/campaign mode and are not eligible for the bonus chronicle sheet.Not really accurate, since home campaign mode does not limit you from not playing your character in other scenarios while playing the AP or Dragon's demand. It is feasible to play in campaign mode and finishes sanctioned areas for the chronicle sheet while still playing the PFS character in normal scenarios. That said it is not a good idea because you can get into situations that LordoShadow got into.
In home campaign mode you are not playing a PFS character, so it does in effect limit you from playing the same character in PFS scenarios between sessions of Dragon's Demand. From LordoShadow's post it sounded (to me at least) like he played the same character in other PFS scenarios between sessions of Dragon's Demand - thereby indicating it was not playing home campaign mode.
I agree that leveling the PFS character you want to apply the chronicles to is not necessarily a good idea - but it is not the same character, even if it is a PFS version of the character used in the home campaign.
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Ideally, this should not have happened. There are two methods of playing through The Dragon's Demand as sanctioned for Pathfinder Society Organized Play. If you play through only the sanctioned parts, you get a Chronicle sheet after completing each section. If you instead play the whole thing from cover to cover (perhaps using house rules of your own), characters receive the Chronicle sheets all in one lump at the end.
Alternatively, you may play the entirety of The Dragon’s Demand, afterward receiving credit for playing the sanctioned portions of the adventure as if you had played a pregenerated character.
What's more, as others have noted above, you should not have been playing that character in other adventures while he or she was still in the middle of The Dragon's Demand.
Since a sanctioned module can be a multi-session event, Pathfinder Society characters may not be used in other Pathfinder Society events until they complete and receive a Chronicle sheet for the sanctioned content. GMs are advised to work with players who miss the final session of the module in order for those players to receive their Chronicle sheets.
As a result, I do not intend to add an 8th-level gold entry for the fourth Chronicle sheet.
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If you instead play the whole thing from cover to cover (perhaps using house rules of your own), characters receive the Chronicle sheets all in one lump at the end.
Alternatively, you may play the entirety of The Dragon’s Demand, afterward receiving credit for playing the sanctioned portions of the adventure as if you had played a pregenerated character.
After you pointing that out I have been reading that incorrectly, and applying the chronicle sheets incorrectly. I was reading that as if you are playing campaign mode you give the chronicle sheets after playing the sanctioned areas. I will have to change that for the rest of the module.
The correct reading of the rule locks a PFS character in until the entire module is done in campaign mode.
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My gm has done this is a very wonky way, and I would like insight. We are running our characters in the game where I can have my pfs outside to play, but the one inside is locked in as they are. The gm just says we leveled up without calculating anything, and just gives us gold whenever. The gm said he will do the third part more condensed so we can get this all finished, and I'm worried about character death. I'm aware this stuff isn't allowed at all, and I'm not too happy about it, but if I die, then does my character actually die? Can I make another character in the game and finish it?
You are playing in campaign mode, so the GM can run things as he wants to - with no repercussions on your PFS character.
So, yes, in campaign mode, you can die several times without losing your PFS character.
As an aside, some GMs calculate the XP before sitting down to play, so they know when you level. Other GMs choose appropriate spots for PCs to level (and non-PFS Paizo long adventures, like APs and the new modules, have guidelines on what level PCs should be for each part of the adventure). And some GMs give XP at end of every fight. All are equally valid ways of administering the game.
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If you instead play the whole thing from cover to cover (perhaps using house rules of your own), characters receive the Chronicle sheets all in one lump at the end.
Alternatively, you may play the entirety of The Dragon’s Demand, afterward receiving credit for playing the sanctioned portions of the adventure as if you had played a pregenerated character.After you pointing that out I have been reading that incorrectly, and applying the chronicle sheets incorrectly. I was reading that as if you are playing campaign mode you give the chronicle sheets after playing the sanctioned areas. I will have to change that for the rest of the module.
The correct reading of the rule locks a PFS character in until the entire module is done in campaign mode.
Not really, Dragnmoon. All it means is that the PC number you give the GM to make the sheets for needs to be between 1.0 and 3.2 at the time the chronicles are received.
Heck, as long as you have a willing GM, you can change the PC number up until the GM writes out the 4 chronicles. One of my players did that for the game I ran, he wound up using the other PFS PC in the interim.
The only time you might run into an issue is if the GM is not the coordinator, and the chronicle sections are reported at the time they occur, and even that can be handled.
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I feel my gm if I die will make my character die. Anyone cite anything so I can prove this in my defense? If I die, I can reroll and finish the game? Can I earn the third sheet if I die at the end?
Mike clarifies here that applying chronicles for an AP (and by extension, a long module) in campaign mode works like GM credit. Just as a TPK would have no bearing on a GM's PC, so the death of your PC in the home campaign would have no influence on your PFS PC. As long as you (the player) are present for the sessions, you get the chronicles.
From your previous post, it looks like you're effectively playing a duplicate of your PFS PC in a non-PFS game. Just be aware that apart from getting the rewards from the chronicle sheets, no effects from the game (used consumables, conditions, etc.) carry over from this 'campaign mode' game back into normal PFS play. The GM can't enforce that a PC is locked into the game; you just need to make sure whichever character you're giving credit to is in the right tier to receive the chronicles when they are handed out at the end.
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For super clarification, I will receive a flawless sheet regardless for my participation, and my actual character will not suffer any negative effects, right? This is because of the method of how the game has been played, right?
Simply pointing out campaign mode in effect should reflect this and clear up any issue if death occurs, correct?
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You're in luck, you're in campaign mode, just have the players make new characters adjust the story to get them in and continue.
Well, I am the only PFS player, no one else in the group really cares about PFS, and the players want me to run something else.
Not a huge deal , but would be nice to at least get credit for chapters 1&2.
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For super clarification, I will receive a flawless sheet regardless for my participation, and my actual character will not suffer any negative effects, right? This is because of the method of how the game has been played, right?
Simply pointing out campaign mode in effect should reflect this and clear up any issue if death occurs, correct?
Correct on all points.