Ross Byers RPG Superstar 2008 Top 32 |
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I've had an epiphany: Since planar binding is free, the extra required spells are a way to make you 'pay' for its massive effectiveness. If those payments are fair are up for debate, but what I mean is that if you didn't need magic circle and dimensional anchor at a minimum, and geas and dismissal (potentially among others) to get use out of planar binding, it would be making a mockery out of similarly-leveled summon monster spells.
That sucks for a Sorcerer, because they have to spend spells known instead of just spells per day, but consolidating too much has its own problems. That doesn't break my idea for planar calling, since under that model if you don't want to spend wealth you have to spend a lot of spell slots. Just something to keep in mind.
Dunkelzahn |
I realized today that planar binding has some weird interactions with non-neutral casters.
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Okay, now for the things that just don't work. If I'm a cleric with the Devil subdomain, I get to cast planar binding as a domain spell. But only to get devils. But to contain those, I need magic circle against law, or magic circle against chaos, neither of which I can cast because either I'm LE or my patron is if I have the Devil subdomain. Demon has the same problem. Domain spells you can't use!
Sorry to necro this again but has this ever been resolved? I'm looking at making a fiendish vessel and I'm hooped because I have to be LE and take the Devil sub domain and I don't really feel like losing one of my 6th level domain spells.
Ross Byers RPG Superstar 2008 Top 32 |
Dunkelzahn |
This has never been officially resolved.
Talk to your GM, see if you can get planar ally instead. Or if he'll let you hand-wave the magic circle requirement.
Thanks, that's what I thought. I'll ask the DM to just let me use any magic circle instead. Not that they differ cost or level wise.
Sean K Reynolds Contributor |
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Actually, it got a FAQ answer here, at least with respect to the subdomains problem.
Dunkelzahn |
Actually, it got a FAQ answer here, at least with respect to the subdomains problem.
A bit scary prospect but it works for me. If you have the Devil subdomain it makes sense that you wouldn't imprison a devil. Thanks!