Planar binding weirdness and aligned casters


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I've had an epiphany: Since planar binding is free, the extra required spells are a way to make you 'pay' for its massive effectiveness. If those payments are fair are up for debate, but what I mean is that if you didn't need magic circle and dimensional anchor at a minimum, and geas and dismissal (potentially among others) to get use out of planar binding, it would be making a mockery out of similarly-leveled summon monster spells.

That sucks for a Sorcerer, because they have to spend spells known instead of just spells per day, but consolidating too much has its own problems. That doesn't break my idea for planar calling, since under that model if you don't want to spend wealth you have to spend a lot of spell slots. Just something to keep in mind.


Ross Byers wrote:

I realized today that planar binding has some weird interactions with non-neutral casters.

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Okay, now for the things that just don't work. If I'm a cleric with the Devil subdomain, I get to cast planar binding as a domain spell. But only to get devils. But to contain those, I need magic circle against law, or magic circle against chaos, neither of which I can cast because either I'm LE or my patron is if I have the Devil subdomain. Demon has the same problem. Domain spells you can't use!

Sorry to necro this again but has this ever been resolved? I'm looking at making a fiendish vessel and I'm hooped because I have to be LE and take the Devil sub domain and I don't really feel like losing one of my 6th level domain spells.

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This has never been officially resolved.

Talk to your GM, see if you can get planar ally instead. Or if he'll let you hand-wave the magic circle requirement.


Ross Byers wrote:

This has never been officially resolved.

Talk to your GM, see if you can get planar ally instead. Or if he'll let you hand-wave the magic circle requirement.

Thanks, that's what I thought. I'll ask the DM to just let me use any magic circle instead. Not that they differ cost or level wise.

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Actually, it got a FAQ answer here, at least with respect to the subdomains problem.


Sean K Reynolds wrote:
Actually, it got a FAQ answer here, at least with respect to the subdomains problem.

A bit scary prospect but it works for me. If you have the Devil subdomain it makes sense that you wouldn't imprison a devil. Thanks!


aceDiamond wrote:
Personally, I can get behind the idea of consensual Planar Binding.

Kinky...


Set wrote:

Consensual planar bondage just screams Kyton, and leads inevitably to Hellraiser...

There is nothing consensual about anything done by Kytons, no matter what they try to tell you...

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