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nice list, i'll watch the rest tonight and share with others. look forward to more videos.
It has already replaced GH and Mystara (OD&D) in my heart... all that leaves is FR keeping it from the #1 spot.
5eD&D/FR will be the decider, me thinks.
FR the worst dartnet them there is fightin words:) If Spelljammer is on your top 10 worst list I'm going to break out my +5 mace of Gygax's wrath.
I would swap FR and Ravenloft around on your setting list. Hated me some Ravenloft.
Anyway perosnal favorites are Darksun, pre 4th ed FR and Mystara. Favorite is now Darksun.
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*meh*
Hated me some Spelljammer.
As for not-liking FR but loving Golarion... that seems a bit odd to me, since Golarion is (to me) 'FR done right' (in other words, someone looked at FR, took all the good stuff out, got rid of the rest, and built an entirely new setting with it).
I would list all the points they have in-common... but the internet simply is not that big.
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*meh*
Hated me some Spelljammer.
As for not-liking FR but loving Golarion... that seems a bit odd to me, since Golarion is (to me) 'FR done right' (in other words, someone looked at FR, took all the good stuff out, got rid of the rest, and built an entirely new setting with it).
I would list all the points they have in-common... but the internet simply is not that big.
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Um FR is so big and all encompassing I think you could do the same with any campaign setting...
ugh! i hate Eberron, so bland and vaguely racist (no human ethnicities, dwarves are the worst of jewish stereotypes, i.e. miserly bankers with a monopoly on banking, drow are from the "Dark continent" and worship demons and scorpions, etc, etc) also i hate forgotten realms.... now, since 4th edition, and no amount of re-booting or sundering or whatever they call it won't help, its dead to me now.
I'm more of a 'bits & pieces' kind of guy; I like (or even love) certain aspects of some settings, and dislike (or even loathe) certain other aspects of those same settings.
Thats why I take what I like, mash it all up, and do my own thing. My current world is a perfect (IMHO) blend of FR and Gol... with some heavy Mystara influences thrown in (and sprinklings from several other settings as well).
You see, we have super power... something no official designer can do. We can steal whatever the hell we like for our home campaigns. Only they have to 'follow the rules'. That means we can take the 'kewlest stuff eva' and slap it into our games.. they can't do that with other folks IPs. Potentially, we can each have a setting far superior then anything any company can provide, simply because we have a much larger pool to draw from.
If someone accuses me of something derivative, I just say, "damn right it is!"
I don't think I have ten campaign settings to make a Top 10 list with. My favourite setting is Planescape, however.
Agreed, Golarion is now my second favorite because of new adventure paths.
Surprisingly Planescape won here http://www.enworld.org/forum/content.php?1111-Top-Ten-D-D-Settings-of-ALL-T IME%21
My Top Ten
10 Dark Sun
9 Spelljammer
8 Eberron
7 Greyhawk
6 Ravenloft
5 Planescape
4 Dragonlance
3 Birthright
2 Pathfinder Golarion
1 Forgotten Realms/Al-Qadim/the Horde/Kara-Tur/Maztica
I can probably think of five settings, since I never played in Greyhawk.
1. Eberron
2. Golarion
3. Athas (Dark Sun)
4. Numenera
5. Rokugan (Oriental Adventures)
Never got into Forgotten Realms, as to me (and apparently WotC), it was nothing but Drow and the Underdark and I was already tired of them by then.
Also, the Dwarves are miserly stereotype has been around since Tolkein. It was just far more exaggerated in Eberron.
ugh! i hate Eberron, so bland and vaguely racist (no human ethnicities, dwarves are the worst of jewish stereotypes, i.e. miserly bankers with a monopoly on banking, drow are from the "Dark continent" and worship demons and scorpions, etc, etc) also i hate forgotten realms.... now, since 4th edition, and no amount of re-booting or sundering or whatever they call it won't help, its dead to me now.
Wut?
Yeah, the drow one is a huge simplification of them. Reading Secrets of Xendrik, there are the ones that worship Vulkoor, but there are also the Sulatar, those who hold the remnants of the magic from the Age of Giants. And there are the Umbragen, the drow that remained to live in Khyber.
I do agree with him on Forgotten Realms. I'm kind of tired of the Underdark, which seems to have been their focus for the last couple of years. And I wasn't a big fan of the cataclysm, since I never got a chance to see the nations I really liked, like Maztica. The Sundering is even them backpedaling the Spellplague because of how it alienated the fanbased that liked Forgotten Realms.
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As for not-liking FR but loving Golarion... that seems a bit odd to me, since Golarion is (to me) 'FR done right' (in other words, someone looked at FR, took all the good stuff out, got rid of the rest, and built an entirely new setting with it).
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That is EXACTLY why I rated those 2 setting the way I did!
I've been playing over 30 years, but I wouldn't even be able to name ten "D&D settings" I'd call a favorite of any degree. Hm. Golarion and Greyhawk, and the Known World (aka Mystara).
I could, however, probably list ten settings I would never want to game in, and that list would be headed by the Forgotten Realms (of any era), probably followed by Planescape and Dark Sun.
As for not-liking FR but loving Golarion... that seems a bit odd to me, since Golarion is (to me) 'FR done right' (in other words, someone looked at FR, took all the good stuff out, got rid of the rest, and built an entirely new setting with it).
Not odd at all to me. I've always despised the Forgotten Realms as a setting. When it was first released in 1987 (I think) it felt like a bland ripoff of Greyhawk with all the interesting bits ripped out and replaced by cliched or boring parts. And from there it grew progressively worse with every release.
Ah I missed "D&D" setting. I suppose Numenera doesn't count then :(
Actually, I preferred the world of Serran to standard D & D worlds.
My favorite D & D settings were Planescape, Ptolus,
and Ravenloft.
Maybe it's just me being weird, but my own top ten would be fairly impacted by 3PP.
1. Golarion (not just because of hosts - I love what's been done with the place.
2. Zakhara, specifically, independant of the rest of Aber-Toril
3. The Dragon Empires of DragonStar
4. Nyambé-Tanda.
5. Mystara
6. Athas
7. Hamunaptra
8. Tie between Kara-Tur and the Known Realms and Maztica, each independent of each other in Forgotten Realms.
9. The Crystal Spheres of SpellJammer
10. Scarn
Honorable Mention - Ravenloft.
I didn't hate on 2E Forgotten Realms, mostly 'cause I was busy enjoying the tales of Cadderly and the Gondians.
I've wanted to do a quasi-Swords'n'Sorcery setting with a melding of Nyambé, Maztica, a lot of First Nation-type political intrigue, and a mess of Oceana/Polynesian island-hopping adventures, but I've never had the time or patience to get around to it.
ugh! i hate Eberron, so bland and vaguely racist (no human ethnicities, dwarves are the worst of jewish stereotypes, i.e. miserly bankers with a monopoly on banking, drow are from the "Dark continent" and worship demons and scorpions, etc, etc) also i hate forgotten realms.... now, since 4th edition, and no amount of re-booting or sundering or whatever they call it won't help, its dead to me now.Wut?
what exactly are you wondering about, i thought i was pretty clear in my post:)
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My favorite non-WotC/TSR settings;
Scarred Lands (Sword & Sorcery)
Freeport (Green Ronin)
Golarion (Paizo)
Hamunaptra (Green Ronin)
Tellene (Kenzer & Co)
Nyambe (Atlas Games)
For WotC/TSR;
Al-Qadim/Zakhara
Greyhawk
Kara-Tur
Pre-Time of Troubles Forgotten Realms
Eberron
Spelljammer
Mystara
Really, the only official ones that actively turned me off were Dragonlance, Ravenloft and Planescape (for which, I know, I will burn in hell...).
The more I read about Pre-Troubles Forgotten Realms, the more I really like it and wish they focused more on it.
what exactly are you wondering about, i thought i was pretty clear in my post:)ugh! i hate Eberron, so bland and vaguely racist (no human ethnicities, dwarves are the worst of jewish stereotypes, i.e. miserly bankers with a monopoly on banking, drow are from the "Dark continent" and worship demons and scorpions, etc, etc) also i hate forgotten realms.... now, since 4th edition, and no amount of re-booting or sundering or whatever they call it won't help, its dead to me now.Wut?
You were clear about your lack of knowledge about the setting.
The "Dwarves are Jewish stereotypes" raised my eyebrows, mostly. Dwarves aren't Jews. They're Dwarves. The comparison is dumb. Not to mention that in Eberron, they are not "miserly bankers with a monopoly on banking". That's only one of the Dragonmarked houses, except "miserly" doesn't apply, as well. Have you seen descriptions of Kundarak enclaves?
Generally speaking, Eberron Dwarves have an oligopoly on mineral wealth. They are also backstabbing each other continuously because of old tribal rivalries. They make perfect rogues.
Drow do not all worship demons and scorpions. That's only one faction. If you want to construct an allegory to Africa, look to the ancient Giant civilizations of Xen'drik, although the artwork shows South American influences.
I hate picking favorites, but I'll drop by to do a list later on.
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1) Golarion: Avistan, Arcadian Ocean & Garund
2) Ravenloft
3) Forgotten Realms: Toril, 1372-1377 DR
4) Greyhawk: Flanaess, early 580s CY
5) Planescape: Sigil, etc.
6) Westeros
7) Krynn: Ansalon, 350 AC
8) Freeport
9) Ptolus
I don't think I could put Darksun, Mystra or Spelljammer on my list -- I've played very little with them. Though I have no problem with them: I love what Dragon did w/ Darksun 10 years ago and I actually just started a Spelljamer game two weeks ago.
Eberron does not exist, as implied when Paizo misspelled it on the cover of Dungeon when it was first vomited forth on the world.
what exactly are you wondering about, i thought i was pretty clear in my post:)ugh! i hate Eberron, so bland and vaguely racist (no human ethnicities, dwarves are the worst of jewish stereotypes, i.e. miserly bankers with a monopoly on banking, drow are from the "Dark continent" and worship demons and scorpions, etc, etc) also i hate forgotten realms.... now, since 4th edition, and no amount of re-booting or sundering or whatever they call it won't help, its dead to me now.Wut?You were clear about your lack of knowledge about the setting.
The "Dwarves are Jewish stereotypes" raised my eyebrows, mostly. Dwarves aren't Jews. They're Dwarves. The comparison is dumb. Not to mention that in Eberron, they are not "miserly bankers with a monopoly on banking". That's only one of the Dragonmarked houses, except "miserly" doesn't apply, as well. Have you seen descriptions of Kundarak enclaves?
Generally speaking, Eberron Dwarves have an oligopoly on mineral wealth. They are also backstabbing each other continuously because of old tribal rivalries. They make perfect rogues.Drow do not all worship demons and scorpions. That's only one faction. If you want to construct an allegory to Africa, look to the ancient Giant civilizations of Xen'drik, although the artwork shows South American influences.
i had both 4th edition eberron and the original plus numerous source books and i stand by my posts, i'm quite familiar with the dwarven homeland, as dwarves are my favorite race (have been since i read the hobbit i also used to game with a couple of jewish brothers and they found the eberron dwarves insulting as well. agreed that only the dragon mark houses had a monopoly, but all the dragon mark houses had a monopoly on some business, which is stupid any way.
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The more I read about Pre-Troubles Forgotten Realms, the more I really like it and wish they focused more on it.
Pretty much this for me. 1st ed FR was excellent in the beginning and felt very Points of Light.
1st - Early FR (pre 2nd ed, 1st boxed set, small regional supplements, pre novel influence/living world nonsense)
2nd - Early Greyhawk (very strong tie for first)
3rd - Mystara
I would mention Krynn/Dragonlance but it would only go so far as it was before there was a real campaign and everything was new in the first few modules. As it was apparently a novel tie-in and moved to the absurd, my interest dropped (before the first campaign book came out).
i had both 4th edition eberron and the original plus numerous source books and i stand by my posts, i'm quite familiar with the dwarven homeland, as dwarves are my favorite race (have been since i read the hobbit i also used to game with a couple of jewish brothers and they found the eberron dwarves insulting as well. agreed that only the dragon mark houses had a monopoly, but all the dragon mark houses had a monopoly on some business, which is stupid any way.
Don't move the goal posts, now. We were talking about Dwarves, a fictional race that has nothing to do with the stereotype you mentioned.
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I probably need to turn my nerd card in.
Best settings:
Golarion
Eberron (DDO warmed me up to this setting)Worst:
Forgettable Realms (Tired of all the canon arguments and Drizzzzzit)Setting I want oh so badly to try:
Darksun.
You sir it would appear have not seen my you tube channel yet. You are not alone. ;)
I don't really have a top 10 settings list. I found Greyhawk (1E), Forgotten Realms (original boxed set) and more recently Golarion interesting reads but I never ran a game in them. I did borrow the odd idea / NPC and convert them for my own campaign. The only actual D&D setting I've ever considered running besides my own was Blackmoor. I like Arneson's setting. I never ran it though. The only (almost) "D&D" setting I've actually run was M.A.R. Barker's Tekumel from Empire of the Petal Throne. Besides my own game I've been steadily grinding away at an updated EPT using 3.x rules. Given the plethora of high tech items in Tekumel it's given me an interest in Paizo's upcoming Iron Gods AP / support material.
Oh, can't forget mining the old City State of the Invincible Overlord for ideas. Never used the Judges Guild setting itself although I have a lot of it boxed up but it certainly shaped my ideas about cities and urban locations. World Building is fascinating fun for me and only Barker's Tekumel has tempted me to develop / explore / run someone else's setting.
2e faerun without Drizzt... pre drizzt faerun?.., greyhawk. golarion or homebrew. Maybe planescape. Maybe,,, Nothing else matters.
No darksun, no eberron, no ravenloft, no dragonlance, and definitely no spelljammer.
I put the nard in grognard.
My list of D&D Favourites would be:
1.- Planescape (pre-Faction Wars)
2.- Al-Qadim (as a stand-alone without the rest of Forgotten Realms)
3.- Dragonlance (in it's AD&D 2e incarnation)
4.- Golarion (minus Tian Xia and Andoran. I also replaced the Great Beyond cosmology, not because I particularly dislike it, but just because I prefer Planescape's).
Yeah, I love the Great Wheel - neutral toward Planescape itself, but I liked the fact that it brought the plethora of planes back into the gaming public's eye. I wonder... since WotC replaced the Great Wheel* with their own 4E cosmology, d'you think they'd be willing to sell it off now?
* Presumably using a Great Jack and a Great Lugwrench.
Hehe
Well, they did announce recently that Next will be assuming the Planescape cosmology as the default. I'm not sure whether that means the Great Wheel is back in its entirety or some parts of it will make a comeback, but either way it's a good thing to see such an ellaborate and compelling setting brought back into attention.
i had both 4th edition eberron and the original plus numerous source books and i stand by my posts, i'm quite familiar with the dwarven homeland, as dwarves are my favorite race (have been since i read the hobbit i also used to game with a couple of jewish brothers and they found the eberron dwarves insulting as well. agreed that only the dragon mark houses had a monopoly, but all the dragon mark houses had a monopoly on some business, which is stupid any way.Don't move the goal posts, now. We were talking about Dwarves, a fictional race that has nothing to do with the stereotype you mentioned.
well i don't have the books anymore so thats as far as i'm going into this, i found the setting bland and sub par at best
My favorites:
1) Forgotten Realms (pre-4e)
2) Al-Qadim
3) Planescape (pre-Faction War)
4) Spelljammer
5) Kara-Tur
6) Maztica
7) Rokugan
8-10) Don't care enough.
Worst:
- Ravenloft
- Darksun (which I wished I liked, because Dragon Kings was such a cool sourcebook...)
The more I read about Kobold Press's Midgard setting, the more I like it. It has a very tight feel and theme but still broad enough to cover a lot of different types of adventures and campaigns. The way it handles gods, where their names and personalities change from region to region and culture to culture is, I think, a very cool idea.
The two campaign settings that really had an impact on me were the 1983 World of Greyhawk boxed set and the Eberron Campaign Setting hardcover.
The Greyhawk boxed set I liked for its air of mystery. The various countries were described in a little detail, but with plenty of room for my imagination to go wild. There also seemed to be plenty of wilderness for adventuring in.
The Eberron campaign book struck me as the first time that someone had really thought out answers to most of the prickly questions I've had in the past (e.g. How do you prevent high-level good guy NPCs from overshadowing the PCs? How do you have powerful monsters for the PCs to fight and yet not have those same powerful monsters taking over the world?) I'm not a fan of the pseudo-technology aspect unfortunately, but I definitely admire it as an inspiring work.
Golarion and the Forgotten Realms are a bit too overstuffed for my taste, although they both have their charms.
It tends to come down to individual books for me. I agree that Dragon Kings was outstanding, far better than anything else in the Dark Sun setting. Forgotten Realms Adventures, which got me into FR. Dead Gods fired up Planescape for me. For Spelljammer, it was Crystal Spheres. Golation has Hook Mountain Massacre and Carnival of Tears. I believe it was Islands of Terror for Ravenloft.
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Greyhawk-Golarion-Homebrews
We played Darksun, but using Rolemaster.
I love Planescape as a concept/reading material. I've played in it a few times, but it always breaks down.
As far as fave non-D&Dfantasy settings...
Middle Earth (MERP)- WHRP (Old edition)- Allansia (Fighting Fantasy)-Stormbringer
Settings that I haven't gotten to pay in, but am looking forward to
Middle Earth ( One Ring version)
Numenera
X-Crawl ( I've played at Gencon)
Dragonstar
Ah thats true. I must add WFRP to my list of hateds. I sure can get sick and tired of grimdark in no time flat. No time flat.
Mine run something like this -
1) Golarion
2) Spelljammer
3) Known World (Mystara) / Hollow World - moves much further down without Hollow world.
4) Eberron
5) Dragonstar (SF D&D setting from FFG back in the 3.0 era).
6-15 - most of the others with no real order other than the mood I am in.
2037 - Planescape - I really hated this setting
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-Forgotten Realms Feels it does a better job than Golarion. Even though I hate the sheer amount of gods and how redundant some are.
-Dragonlance. If only they could get rid of Kender. Hate the damn childlike Kleptomaiacs.
-Eberron It has it's flaws yet I found it enjoyable. Almost ruined by some rabid fans and there insitence that Eberron was better than FR because of a lack of high level npcs. And because it was grim and gritty.
Scarred Lands Read the background never got to run it.
Golarion I like and dislike some elements of the setting. Galt I dislike very much. A counttry in constant anarchy that somehow manages to not get conqured by anyone because of a secret KGB like society and guillotines that traps souls.