Ravingdork |
I'm making a Stealth-based character, and I was wondering what some of the highest Perception modifiers we see in official Paizo publications (such as the Bestiaries or NPC Codex) are? I want to try and beat them all.
chaoseffect |
Leonardo Trancoso wrote:Stealth: 20 ranks + 3 cs + 8feats + 15 shadow greater+ 4 racial + 10 dex =60. What is missing?Perhaps some +Stealth items
I believe most "plus skill" items gives competence bonuses, so they wouldn't stack. Greater Shadow has that area covered. You could go Goblin though in order to get both a +4 racial and a +4 size bonus to stealth... I haven't looked up size modifiers for a while, but you could also maybe use Reduce Person to bump the size bonus up more.
Kayerloth |
Racial Bonuses stack, so you could be a Goblin and then gain access to a spell like ability to qualify for becoming a Lich and then do so for a +12 racial bonus =p
from the SRD
Creatures gain a bonus or penalty on Stealth checks based on their size: Fine +16, Diminutive +12, Tiny +8, Small +4, Medium +0, Large -4, Huge -8, Gargantuan -12, Colossal -16.Kayerloth |
So Goblin lich is my best bet then? :P
Also, wouldn't feats give a +10, not +8, past 10th-level?
Who's shapechanged into a Fine sized creature :D 'Course your grapple check might leave something to desire :p
edit:
And Skill Focus 10+ ranks bumps that bonus up to +6 from +3 (If that wasn't already in the total from feats => Skill Focus +6 and Stealthy +4 maybe)
blackbloodtroll |
See this thread for how to get more out of stealth, in terms of when, and who you can use stealth against.
Snowleopard |
My best advice is to make the GM throw low. I had my ranger in a breast plate with a stealth rank of 3 (level 3) sneak up on a guard post. And guess what? Despite several attempts of the sentry, I remained undetected (GM said he didn't throw higher then a 5 for three times). Whereas the party rogue sneaked undetected and straight into the area of a watchdog with the scent ability that totally wasted the sneak the rogue was employing.