Pathfinder Society Pregenerated Characters Updated

[Mark Moreland]

With all the excitement in the lead-up to Gen Con, it seems the release of an expanded array of Pathfinder Society-legal pregenerated characters went unannounced. Well this post should remedy that!

We now have official Pathfinder Society pregenerated characters of 14 classes at levels 1, 4, and 7. The classes offered are:

• Barbarian
  
• Bard
  
• Cleric
  
• Druid
  
• Fighter
  
• Gunslinger
  
• Monk
  
• Ninja
  
• Paladin
  
• Ranger
  
• Rogue
  
• Samurai
  
• Sorcerer
  
• Wizard
  

In addition to the release of seven new iconics, we've also reformatted the previously released seven pregenerated characters to make them easier to use at the table. This includes expanded explanations of their individual class features, lengthened character backstories, and more character art. The pregenerated characters now have a horizontal layout as well, which makes them easier to use at the table, especially narrower play spaces.

You can download the complete package of all 42 pregenerated characters here (4.7MB zip/pdf).

[Mystic Lemur]

Thanks Mark, Mike, and John. And thanks to whoever else put in the work to get these updated. :)

[Mark Moreland]

Logan was actually the primary force behind getting these updated, formatted, edited, and released on time. So thanks should go to him, if you want to get specific.

[Mergy]

I had to check to make sure it wasn't April Fool's Day. You guys are amazing!

[Preston Hudson]

My thanks to all involved for getting these out there with all that has been happening in preparation for Season 5 start. I agree with all who have posted before, you all are amazing!!!

Is there any chance of seeing the return of the Advanced Player's Guide iconic pregens?

[Dust Raven]

Nice!

Send Logan my thanks!

[Chad Newman]

Awesome stuff! And just in time for GenCon! Now to the printer! :)

[Magical_Beast]

Woooo hoo! These are most welcome additions to my gm toolbox. Nice work!

[Matthew Morris]

Now we just need the ninja and samurai minis in the hopper.

(I like having the minis for the Pre-gens, it makes it easier with new players)

[Patrick Harris @ MU]

Fan. Freakin'. Tastic.

Thank you!

[Michael Brock]

Preston Hudson wrote:

My thanks to all involved for getting these out there with all that has been happening in preparation for Season 5 start. I agree with all who have posted before, you all are amazing!!!

Is there any chance of seeing the return of the Advanced Player's Guide iconic pregens?

These were originally on my list of goals to accomplish when I was hired. Step one -- check!

I would love to eventually add the APG pregens back. But, we have other things with a higher priority currently.

[Corax "the honest thief"]

Sweet!!

[Preston Hudson]

Mike, completely understandable. Thank you for the update and the curiosity resolution. My thanks again on these updates!!!

[Themes86]

Michael Brock wrote:

Preston Hudson wrote:

My thanks to all involved for getting these out there with all that has been happening in preparation for Season 5 start. I agree with all who have posted before, you all are amazing!!!

Is there any chance of seeing the return of the Advanced Player's Guide iconic pregens?

These were originally on my list of goals to accomplish when I was hired. Step one -- check!

I would love to eventually add the APG pregens back. But, we have other things with a higher priority currently.

Great job! Now work hard & enjoy yourself at Gen Con!

[Maxim Nikolaev]

This is great!

[Dead Ninja Pregen]

I notice the Level 7 Ninja has a whopping 38 hit points now! That's 3 more than she used to have!

So, y'know, if someone's playing the new Reiko at your table, you might still want to stress the importance of not getting hit even once.

especially if it's your five star game and you're a venture-captain *cough*Eric*cough*

[Totenpfuhl]

Thanks Mark and Logan. These look great!

[Bbauzh ap Aghauzh]

Yay! Lirianne and Harsk now have Rapid Reload!

[RainyDayNinja]

Andrew Christian wrote:

Yay! Lirianne and Harsk now have Rapid Reload!

But do they have Deadly Aim?

[Bbauzh ap Aghauzh]

No, but now at least Lirianna can use her iterative attacks.

Harsk still only gets one shot per round, but he has improved precise shot now.

[Fromper]

Michael Brock wrote:

Preston Hudson wrote:

My thanks to all involved for getting these out there with all that has been happening in preparation for Season 5 start. I agree with all who have posted before, you all are amazing!!!

Is there any chance of seeing the return of the Advanced Player's Guide iconic pregens?

These were originally on my list of goals to accomplish when I was hired. Step one -- check!

I would love to eventually add the APG pregens back. But, we have other things with a higher priority currently.

I was wondering about APG pregens, too. Glad to know they're on your "to do" list, even if they're nowhere near the top. I'm sure you'll get to them by GenCon 2017.

As for these updated ones, I'll be sure to look at them... next week. Too busy with GenCon to even care right now.

[RAdeMorris]

I'm very happy for these. It'll allow players more options for the 4th level space.

I, too, would love to get the APG pregens in matching styles, but when we get them, we'll get them it seems.

[Nidome]

This is certainly useful, although I still question why Kyra still has cure spells pre-prepared in non-domain slots.....

[Mystic Lemur]

It's sometimes hard as a new player to remember fiddly bits like spontaneously casting cure spells. And how do you decide which spell to drop for that cure if you don't really know what all the spells do?

For more advanced players, there's always the option of changing the spells to whatever you want.

[rknop]

High-five Logan. (His Groundhog game at PaizoCon was fun too....)

[Amber Dreiling]

Nidome wrote:

This is certainly useful

Ditto. If I do plan to use a pregen again in society play, I'll definitely use the new format. Thanks again for the hard work!

Mystic Lemur wrote:

For more advanced players, there's always the option of changing the spells to whatever you want.

Thanks Mystic for that advice.

[My PFS Lavode De'Morcaine]

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[Logan Bonner]

Glad you're enjoying them, folks! It's worth noting that most of the improvements were made by Mark for the NPC Codex versions of the characters! These pregens match whenever possible so we can keep the characters consistent (though with the adjustments that come with being built for Pathfinder Society).

The APG classes are in my sights for the next time I have some flex in my schedule.

[FLite]

*Goes off to make pawns to have at game.*

[osuracnaes]

This might be answered in the new scenarios (I didn't see anything about it in the new guide), but figured I'd ask to clarify...

With the removal of faction missions for prestige and the addition of faction-specific boons, how are we handling running a pregen now, especially with the intent to apply it to an existing, non-Grand Lodge PC? Previously we'd just do the Grand Lodge mission for the prestige and it would be reported (I think) as the PC's faction.

So...
- Should we keep in mind the Grand Lodge's season goals if we run a pregen?
- If the scenario has a Grand Lodge boon, do we keep it when we apply it to our existing, lower level, non-Grand Lodge PC?
- If the scenario has a boon for our PC's faction, do we miss out on it by running a pregen?

[Fromper]

osuracnaes wrote:

This might be answered in the new scenarios (I didn't see anything about it in the new guide), but figured I'd ask to clarify...

With the removal of faction missions for prestige and the addition of faction-specific boons, how are we handling running a pregen now, especially with the intent to apply it to an existing, non-Grand Lodge PC? Previously we'd just do the Grand Lodge mission for the prestige and it would be reported (I think) as the PC's faction.

So...
- Should we keep in mind the Grand Lodge's season goals if we run a pregen?
- If the scenario has a Grand Lodge boon, do we keep it when we apply it to our existing, lower level, non-Grand Lodge PC?
- If the scenario has a boon for our PC's faction, do we miss out on it by running a pregen?

I'm glad you brought this up. I'd like answers, as well.

Personally, I've always found it ridiculous that pregens were forced into the Grand Lodge, even if the credit for playing was going to a PC with an established faction. I can understand if you're dealing with a newbie playing a level 1 pregen in their first session, and you don't want to take the time to explain the factions until later. But if someone has a character that just isn't the right level for the scenario, why not let them use their PC's faction with the pregen?

Hopefully, this will be changed going forward, but I wouldn't bet on it.

[Dawn Reed-Burton]

Thank you!

[bugleyman]

Nicely done. And I see that the 7th level cleric now has her missing phylactery!

[Netopalis]

Fromper wrote:

osuracnaes wrote:

This might be answered in the new scenarios (I didn't see anything about it in the new guide), but figured I'd ask to clarify...

With the removal of faction missions for prestige and the addition of faction-specific boons, how are we handling running a pregen now, especially with the intent to apply it to an existing, non-Grand Lodge PC? Previously we'd just do the Grand Lodge mission for the prestige and it would be reported (I think) as the PC's faction.

So...
- Should we keep in mind the Grand Lodge's season goals if we run a pregen?
- If the scenario has a Grand Lodge boon, do we keep it when we apply it to our existing, lower level, non-Grand Lodge PC?
- If the scenario has a boon for our PC's faction, do we miss out on it by running a pregen?

I'm glad you brought this up. I'd like answers, as well.

Personally, I've always found it ridiculous that pregens were forced into the Grand Lodge, even if the credit for playing was going to a PC with an established faction. I can understand if you're dealing with a newbie playing a level 1 pregen in their first session, and you don't want to take the time to explain the factions until later. But if someone has a character that just isn't the right level for the scenario, why not let them use their PC's faction with the pregen?

Hopefully, this will be changed going forward, but I wouldn't bet on it.

The likely answer is that pregens will now be considered factionless.

[hogarth]

Preston Hudson wrote:

Is there any chance of seeing the return of the Advanced Player's Guide iconic pregens?

It'll happen after Gen Con. Of course, "after Gen Con" is a period that extends from 1968 until the heat death of the universe, so that doesn't narrow things down much.

[Patrick Harris @ MU]

hogarth wrote:

Preston Hudson wrote:

Is there any chance of seeing the return of the Advanced Player's Guide iconic pregens?

It'll happen after Gen Con. Of course, "after Gen Con" is a period that extends from 1968 until the heat death of the universe, so that doesn't narrow things down much.

I would argue that it begins in 2013 ... after Gen Con.

But yeah, you're spot on with that end date. :p

[Preston Hudson]

Until they are rereleased, I will patiently await their return. I was just curious since they were updated and I know they were removed to be redesigned. I am very thankful for the redesign of the current pregens and everything else done for our community.

[FLite]

Okay, I understand why there is no magus or summoner pregens (why would you hand someone a character that complicated to play unprepared.)

But why no half-orc pregens?

[Patrick Harris @ MU]

FLite wrote:

Okay, I understand why there is no magus or summoner pregens (why would you hand someone a character that complicated to play unprepared.)

But why no half-orc pregens?

That's more of a setting question--the pregens are the iconic Pathfinder characters, and the only half-orc I know of in that entire lot is the Inquisitor.

Although that might be a good question to ask James Jacobs.

[thistledown]

FLite wrote:

Okay, I understand why there is no magus or summoner pregens (why would you hand someone a character that complicated to play unprepared.)

But why no half-orc pregens?

Because the half-orc pregen is the Inquisitor, from the APG.

[Draco Bahamut]

I am sad that the level 1 Kyra sheet don´t explain Rebuke Death as the other levels do. Starting players allway try to use it as regular healing.

[kinevon]

Patrick Harris @ MU wrote:

hogarth wrote:

Preston Hudson wrote:

Is there any chance of seeing the return of the Advanced Player's Guide iconic pregens?

It'll happen after Gen Con. Of course, "after Gen Con" is a period that extends from 1968 until the heat death of the universe, so that doesn't narrow things down much.

I would argue that it begins in 2013 ... after Gen Con.

But yeah, you're spot on with that end date. :p

Thanks for the updates.

And the proper way to say it is, "Sometime between now and the heat death of the universe."

"now", of course, is a rolling target.

Then again, there is one company whose games I play, who earned a variant on this. Soon, in general, means sometime in the near future. Real Soon Now (tm) means "Sometime between now and the heat death of the universe." I think it only took 8+ years of "Soon." for them to finally release the Necromancer character class in-game...

[Tsriel]

Michael Brock wrote:

Preston Hudson wrote:

My thanks to all involved for getting these out there with all that has been happening in preparation for Season 5 start. I agree with all who have posted before, you all are amazing!!!

Is there any chance of seeing the return of the Advanced Player's Guide iconic pregens?

These were originally on my list of goals to accomplish when I was hired. Step one -- check!

I would love to eventually add the APG pregens back. But, we have other things with a higher priority currently.

Not intending to necro a thread, but I would very much like to complete my pregen binder. ^_^

[kinevon]

Tsriel wrote:

Michael Brock wrote:

Preston Hudson wrote:

My thanks to all involved for getting these out there with all that has been happening in preparation for Season 5 start. I agree with all who have posted before, you all are amazing!!!

Is there any chance of seeing the return of the Advanced Player's Guide iconic pregens?

These were originally on my list of goals to accomplish when I was hired. Step one -- check!

I would love to eventually add the APG pregens back. But, we have other things with a higher priority currently.

Not intending to necro a thread, but I would very much like to complete my pregen binder. ^_^

Chuckle.

CRB? Check
APG? Limbo
UC: Check.
UM: Check.
ACG: Check
OA: In the haze...

Magic 8ball says that, even once all current classes have PFS pregens, there are more classes down the turnpike, coming to run your binder over. ;)

Ah, well, at least we don't need to worry about pregens for all the archetypes...

[Brigg]

I can hear Harsk laughing now.

"Haha, now people will stop making fun of me!"