Mystic Theurge and other Prestige classes that add spellcasting

[pauljathome]

Interesting edge case.

I was considering having my Mystic Theurge character take a level in the Pathfinder Field Agent Prestige class, and take the Greater Casting training option

I then noticed the wording (wording common to a lot of prestige classes)

"gains new spells per day as if she had also gained a level in a spellcasting class she belonged to before adding theprestige class."

So, I think that RAW this means that she gets to add mystic Theurge levels, which in turn adds to BOTH her wizard and cleric levels.

That is very likely unintended. And arguably quite abusive. Suddenly I get all the goodies of a great many prestige classes while still getting what is by far and away the most important benefit of the Mystic Theurge.

Probably not a huge deal when Mystic Theurge was so expensive to get into. But pretty bad with the new MT entry via Spell like ability.

[DeltaOneG]

I don't think it's a big deal, especially since you can only take Greater Casting once.

[Ughbash]

First you can only take it once so it is oen level.

Second is says from your spell casting class not your Prestige class.

Your Prestige class (thurge modifies yoru base class), your Greater casting also modifies your base class, though if you were a wizard/cleric/sorceror and Thruge modified your wizard and cleric, you could have greater casting modify sorceror (though why).

EDIT: A clearer way of explaining this is that Mystic theurge does not have it's own spell progression, it progresses other classes. Thus a differntpretige cvlass can not advance Theurge casting as it does not have its own casting.

[pauljathome]

DeltaOneG wrote:

I don't think it's a big deal, especially since you can only take Greater Casting once.

For that specific prestige class combination its probably not a huge deal.

But for something like loremaster it becomes a much more interesting combination. Any class with full spellcasting progression.

[DeltaOneG]

Well, I can't find a strict definition of "spellcasting class".

My understanding would be that Mystic Theurge isn't actually a spellcasting class and therefore cannot be chosen for the "+1 to spells/day" abilities. Same is true of all other prestige classes that don't have a spell-list.

[Peter Stewart]

Mystic Theurge is not a 'spellcasting class'. It does not grant spellcasting, it grants a progression of existing spellcasting. As a result it cannot be 'advanced' using other classes that advance spellcasting in a cheesy manner.

I'm pretty sure this ground has been tread a number of times in the past, always with the same answer.

[pauljathome]

That all sounds good to me. I really didn't want this to be legal. I was worried that everybody would be saying that it WAS legal :-).

Thanks all.