EvilMinion |
Monkey Style feats! Gods but I love the descriptive fluff of what this style is... alas it sucks at getting all the feat chain due to level requirements 8(
But Monkey Style covers the prone penalties and allows you to stand without provoking.
Monkey Moves allows you to move around while down there (if only at half speed) and make 5' steps.
Monkey Shines is just pure annoy the NPC fun, but having to wait til level 11 is a bummer 8(
Other then that, its just basic melee combat efficiency stuff.
blackbloodtroll |
Ah. That is good.
Maybe, combine with Roll With It?
Is a Unarmed Fighter or Master of Many Style dip the best for Monkey Style?
EvilMinion |
Along that line, a two level dip into Master of Many Styles monk is probably a must, so you can get both Monkey Style and Monkey Moves by level 2.
Those two feats alone will make the fact you're prone almost moot... other then slightly reduced mobility during combat (though you still can 5' step)
*edit* oops, way too slow on this part =)
EvilMinion |
Alternatively, maybe one of those small size folks that get bonuses vs larger people...
Really, if all you do is make an effective melee combatant from a prone position, there really wasn't much point...
So you should try to find something fun to do to them while you're down there!
Not sure what your options are though...
*ponders*
ArmouredMonk13 |
I don't think you can get around the staggered condition without being a paladin with the staggered mercy, and that is your standard action anyway so it is kind of unhelpful. Or levels in merciful healer, still a moot point. Roll With It is still a great feat, but you have to eat the 1 round of no productive action.
Loup Blanc |
Oh my gods. Goblin with Monkey Style and Roll With It, drop prone as free and delay, let your big dumb friend with a club hit you, and you've just been golfed into position so you can hit all your foes from beneath. That is just too great.
Maybe also grab the Kobold Style feat line and just screw with you foes. Crawl up to them, Stun them, get in their space, dirty trick or feint to make them lose Dexterity, trip them, mount them, laugh the day away.
redward |
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I think you're looking for this:
Belt of the Weasel
This surprisingly soft belt has an absurdly large buckle, made even more absurd by the fact that it’s crafted in the shape of a smiling weasel’s face.
It grants its wearer a +2 enhancement bonus to Dexterity, and the ability to move at half normal speed while prone. Treat the enhancement bonus to Dexterity as a temporary ability bonus for the first 24 hours the belt is worn. The wearer does not take a penalty on melee attack rolls or to AC against melee attacks while prone. Additionally, the wearer gains the compression ability.
ArmouredMonk13 |
What you are looking for is, sadly, only available in D&D 3.5, not in PF.
Oh Really? Because the feat Monkey Style allows you to do the EXACT SAME THING. Look on this page for Monkey Style. Monkey Style also gives you more. It just has too many prerequisites.
Imbicatus |
What about Human, or Scion of Humanity Garuda-Blooded Aasimar?
Both would allow the Racial Heritage(Goblin) feat to nab Roll With It.
If I can find a way around the Staggered condition, it would seem worth it.
10th level Mammoth Rider is immune to Staggered with a slew of other conditions, but it's a long time to wait and doesn't really mesh with being prone at all.
Edit: 19th level unarmed fighter is also immune to staggered. It fits the theme better but is an even longer wait.
blackbloodtroll |
Monkey Style is a must to have this work, yes.
I wonder if combining MoMS with Cleric or Inquisitor, to nab the Restoration Subdomain will make the combination with Roll With It worth it, as I could quickly remove the Staggered condition.
If I choose Irori, I could nab the Wisdom in the Flesh trait, choose Acrobatics, and with Monkey Style, have x2 Wisdom to Acrobatics.
Cass_Ponderovian |
It doesn't specify, but isn't the Restorative Touch power a standard action? If you use it on yourself while staggered, at best you can then take a move action, at worst you can't take any action because a the beginning of the round you were staggered and could take only a move or standard action.
Quicken SLA?
StreamOfTheSky |
Oh Really? Because the feat Monkey Style allows you to do the EXACT SAME THING. Look on this page for Monkey Style. Monkey Style also gives you more. It just has too many prerequisites.
Prone Attack: No penalties to attack and AC while prone. Can stand as a free action after hitting someone w/o AoO.
Monkey Style: No penalties to attack and AC while prone. Can crawl and stand from prone w/o AoO and can do so as a swift if you make Acrobatics check. Get Wis bonus to Acrobatics.
Not quite the same. Swift actions are valuable (especially since Prone Attack is constant and Monkey Style takes a swift just to activate), Prone Attack has no chance of failure, and crawling is still worthless even with Monkey Style. It is more similar than I recalled, though. I don't think the latter really gives you "more" so much. In quantity of things, sure. But I'd much rather have the former. Monkey Style also has an opportunity cost of the number of styles you can be in at a time - one for most, more for MoMS. So it means you give up using some other style feat you may or may not have wanted.
blackbloodtroll |
Is there need for more than Monkey Style/Monkey Moves?
Also, does Fast Crawl stack with Monkey Moves?
Avatar-1 |
Belt of the Weasel wrote:This surprisingly soft belt has an absurdly large buckle, made even more absurd by the fact that it’s crafted in the shape of a smiling weasel’s face.
It grants its wearer a +2 enhancement bonus to Dexterity, and the ability to move at half normal speed while prone. Treat the enhancement bonus to Dexterity as a temporary ability bonus for the first 24 hours the belt is worn. The wearer does not take a penalty on melee attack rolls or to AC against melee attacks while prone. Additionally, the wearer gains the compression ability.
What's the compression ability?
ArmouredMonk13 |
If you take enough levels in Master of Many Styles, you could take Ki Stand on This page. It could help with standing up to move. This does use swift actions, though.
w01fe01 |
i concur monkey style/moves is what you want in the least. maybe coupled with that weasel belt.
then maybe take jani style? if you can get it eventually, along with roll with it.
so you will have increased movement because of monk speed. you get bonuses and can double your damage die on a charge with janni style. and if you get hit you can convert a lot of damage to simply being knocked back.
kinda makes you into a ricotheting maniac.
w01fe01 |
Well, if he is not prone, at least most of the time, then that defeats the purpose of the build.
so if your immune to fear, its useless unless your being feared all the time?
being knocked prone is a condition, usually one with serious drawbacks, monkey style lets you nearly ignore them in entiredy. if thats useless.... O.o
I think the idea about being prone all the time is kinda useless. but being all but immune is far from it.