Creatures with regeneration heal damage at a fixed rate, as with fast healing, but they cannot die as long as their regeneration is still functioning
If the tarrasque fails a save against an effect that would kill it instantly, it rises from death 3 rounds later with 1 hit point if no further damage is inflicted upon its remains
I'm wondering whether or not the Tarrasque is able to die or not? The universal monster rules state a creature with active regeneration cannot die, but the Tarrasque's rules have the phrase 'rises from death,' and my friend is arguing that that means it is capable of dying despite what the universal monster rules state.
It can't. The Tarrasque cannot die, full stop. That's the point. It's an unkillable murder machine, and the most you can ever do is send it to sleep.
You want to see something funny? Slap the Diehard feat on the Tarrasque and watch your high-end party go, "Why won't it go down?!"
I believe regeneration fails in the event of death spells. That is why the tarrasque has that clause.
So can you kill the Tarrasque? Sure. For 3 rounds. That's long enough for a couple teleports.
His reasoning was that a spellcaster could use Animate Dead to bring it back within those three rounds, removing its regeneration.
You want to see something funny? Slap the Diehard feat on the Tarrasque and watch your high-end party go, "Why won't it go down?!"
Fast Healer would be nice too. That regeneration 40? Regeneration 46 now.
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His reasoning was that a spellcaster could use Animate Dead to bring it back within those three rounds, removing its regeneration.I believe regeneration fails in the event of death spells. That is why the tarrasque has that clause.
So can you kill the Tarrasque? Sure. For 3 rounds. That's long enough for a couple teleports.
Except nothing can remove the Tarrasque regeneration.
No form of attack can suppress the tarrasque's regeneration
Coming from the vampire disintegrate thread, that's not an "attack." It's an effect. :P
Careful, Katz. A lot of people on this forum think that they can look at the statblock of the Tarrasque and say, "Do this, this, and this, and he dies."
If you look at just the numbers, they're right. If you look at what the Tarrasque -is- and consider what it's supposed to be, then as a GM, you should never let it happen so easily. It always comes back, it never dies. That's the point. Hurting it enough for it to go back and sleep is the best people can hope for.
If you decide to build a campaign around it, which I hope you would if your players ever encounter it, then it wouldn't be bad to have a specific way to kill it (or maybe just seal it away), but make sure that you dictate those terms, not a player looking at numbers.
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You can't kill a tarrasque per se, but if you can find a spell to baleful plane shift it to the plane of negative energy, or the elemental plane of s#!+, you can take care of it. Or, not certain if this will work but, a 19th or higher Magus has greater spell access, and can get access to disintegrate. There is a magus arcana that converts ranged touch attacks into melee touch attacks (Close Range). If you could bypass SR, hit it with disintegrate and knock it to zero HP, then damage its dust with a spell like fireball (cast by a different caster), could it die? It does say that
Regeneration (Ex) No form of attack can suppress the tarrasque's regeneration—it regenerates even if disintegrated or slain by a death effect. If the tarrasque fails a save against an effect that would kill it instantly, it rises from death 3 rounds later with 1 hit point if no further damage is inflicted upon its remains
IF NO FURTHER DAMAGE IS INFLICTED UPON ITS REMAINS. Does that mean melee touch attack (no longer a ray) disintegrate+lightning bolt to damage remains=dead tarrasque?
I am not dead for 3 rounds. I'm just, uh, discombobulated. Yeah. Too discombobulated to remember to breath or make my heart beat, but definitely not dead.
I've never been dead. Ever. Period.
Make it a Blast Shadow. Now you have a Blast-Shadow Tarrasque who is unquestioningly loyal to you regardless if you have the ability to control it or not.