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Icyshadow wrote:
Flindbars were around in 3.5e D&D too, RJ.

Of course! But Pathfinder's not D&D! :D

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Chainsaw Polearms!


There are Celtic Gods in the form of Empyreal Lords, Cernunnos and Ogma.


Icyshadow wrote:
Flindbars were around in 3.5e D&D too, RJ.

Flindbars have been around since 1st Ed., IS.


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Effective monks/rogues.


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blackbloodtroll wrote:
Chainsaw Polearms!

Hey! You got your 40K in my Pathfinder!


RJGrady wrote:

Shoggoths.

An extraordinary gentleman.

Flindbars. Yes, flindbars.

The African hunga munga.

an AP encounter:
One of my fav encounters in Serpents Skull. Very beginning of pt6, the PC's were all like "a WHAT!!! climbs out of the water?". Proto-Shoggoth for the win.

Chaos emerald, racing broom.


Shroomheart wrote:
There are Celtic Gods in the form of Empyreal Lords, Cernunnos and Ogma.

Are any of the Eldest based off Celtic deities? I really hope they are. There's little to no Celtic lore on Golarion, it seems.


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Icyshadow wrote:
Flindbars were around in 3.5e D&D too, RJ.

Well thats just awful...

Nobody likes a drunken Flind.

;)


Icyshadow wrote:
Shroomheart wrote:
There are Celtic Gods in the form of Empyreal Lords, Cernunnos and Ogma.
Are any of the Eldest based off Celtic deities? I really hope they are. There's little to no Celtic lore on Golarion, it seems.

The Eldest disappointingly aren't Celtic deities/named fey.


MarkusTay wrote:
Icyshadow wrote:
Flindbars were around in 3.5e D&D too, RJ.

Well thats just awful...

Nobody likes a drunken Flind.

;)

Flinds only let flinds fight drunk. ;)

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blackbloodtroll wrote:
Waffles!

Waffles (or Oublies) are of medieval origin (c.1200). Hmm. My breakfast plan for tomorrow.

Usually I make my gluten-free waffles with oatmeal for fiber and complex carbs and almond meal for flavour. Add cinnamon and butter when done.


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Lemure pornography aficionados

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blackbloodtroll wrote:

Duergar have poverty-free societies.

Very, Communist.

More Sorelian, really. Particularly when you get this little gem of Stakhanovism: "grey dwarves do not know the meaning of rest and serve their god by endlessly perfecting everything around them, be it structures, weapons, or magic."

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Well, their society is still quite interesting.


Zimmerwald 1915?!?

Woah, how come I haven't run into you before?

The main enemy is at home! Turn the guns the other way!


Doggie bags!

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Comrade Anklebiter wrote:

Zimmerwald 1915?!?

Woah, how come I haven't run into you before?

I don't talk much. I read your Galt AP ideas with great interest, however.

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The main enemy is at home! Turn the guns the other way!

Let's see...you're quoting Liebknecht and...I don't know who said "turn the guns the other way" unless you're paraphrasing Pottier.


Spoiler:
Thought I was quoting Liebknecht twice, but turns out I was paraphrasing Lenin paraphrasing Liebknect. I must've picked it up from the Sparts or something.

Anyway, things you didn't know existed in Golarion: Karl (Darl J.) Marx and Lenin (Hosetter)!

Vive le Galt!

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Comrade Anklebiter wrote:
I must've picked it up from the Sparts or something.

I'm sorry.

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Anyway, things you didn't know existed in Golarion: Karl (Darl J.) Marx and Lenin (Hosetter)!

That's a stretch. For one thing, Hosetter was writing before Jubannich. For another, Jubannich was primarily a poet and not a philosopher, and while Marx did write some poetry in university, it was 1) unpublished, unlike Jubannich's, and 2) bad. For another, Marx and Lenin were not contemporaries, while Hosetter and Jubannich were. For another, their works are clearly modeled on Enlightenment texts (and the pattern of revolution following, and following from, popular texts is a way of reading the French Revolution out of the Enlighenment that is still respected among historians) rather than socialist texts. Finally, per Rasputin Must Die...

Spoiler:
Marx and Lenin, and every other Earth historical figure up to 1918, exist or have existed in Golarion's universe...on Earth.


Also, Lenin wasn't a half-elf.

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Comrade Anklebiter wrote:
Also, Lenin wasn't a half-elf.

I appreciate that you're looking for analogues, and that certain details have to give, but this particular analogy is just a bridge too far for me. For consolation, and it's not much, Grandfather Pei makes a passable Kim Il Sung. Bonus:

Spoiler:
Kim Il Sung on Earth is something like six years old in 4713 AR.


I was thinking Pei was more Chairman Mao?


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zimmerwald1915 wrote:
Comrade Anklebiter wrote:
Also, Lenin wasn't a half-elf.
I appreciate that you're looking for analogues, and that certain details have to give, but this particular analogy is just a bridge too far for me. For consolation, and it's not much, Grandfather Pei makes a passable Kim Il Sung.

All hail Grandfather Pei Thought!


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Evil Midnight Lurker wrote:
I was thinking Pei was more Chairman Mao?

I thought so, too, but if Mao was LN, I'll eat my hat.

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blackbloodtroll wrote:
Machine Guns, and Flamethrowers(Reign of Winter #05 - Rasputin Must Die! pg 66).

But not Golarion.

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GeraintElberion wrote:
blackbloodtroll wrote:
Machine Guns, and Flamethrowers(Reign of Winter #05 - Rasputin Must Die! pg 66).
But not Golarion.

The Pathfinder AP "Reign of Winter" is based in Golarion.

Scarab Sages

You didn't bother to read the adventure, did you?


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You forget that the PCs that survive RoW stand a good chance of returning to Golarion with a cache of modern firearms and heavy weapons (flamethrowers, mortars, machine guns, perhaps a cannon or two). So, this is a valid observation.

Scarab Sages

Touché.


zimmerwald1915 wrote:
Comrade Anklebiter wrote:
I must've picked it up from the Sparts or something.

I'm sorry.

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Anyway, things you didn't know existed in Golarion: Karl (Darl J.) Marx and Lenin (Hosetter)!

That's a stretch. For one thing, Hosetter was writing before Jubannich. For another, Jubannich was primarily a poet and not a philosopher, and while Marx did write some poetry in university, it was 1) unpublished, unlike Jubannich's, and 2) bad. For another, Marx and Lenin were not contemporaries, while Hosetter and Jubannich were. For another, their works are clearly modeled on Enlightenment texts (and the pattern of revolution following, and following from, popular texts is a way of reading the French Revolution out of the Enlighenment that is still respected among historians) rather than socialist texts. Finally, per Rasputin Must Die...

** spoiler omitted **

You are right, that is a stretch. Galt is clearly a allusion to the French Revolution (not the Russian Revolution)and Darl Jubannich and Hosetter are probably more based on people like Nicolas Chamfort and Abbé Sieyès, not Marx and Lenin.


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But, but, but, Darl rhymes with Karl!!!

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Evil Midnight Lurker wrote:
I was thinking Pei was more Chairman Mao?

So did I at first, but Bachuan's sabre-rattling in the direction of Hwanggot reads like an analogue of the DPRK's relationship with the RoK, and the succession of leadership from Grandfather Pei to his wife sounds more like the succession of leadership in the DPRK (father to son) than in the PRC (one political faction to another).


Huh. I took Grandmother Pei to be an analogue for Jiang Qing.

Although, of course, she and hers lost that fight.


Aquaman is a perfectly viable player character concept.


blackbloodtroll wrote:
Lolth does not exist in Golarion.

DOES IT??

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Haladir wrote:
Aquaman is a perfectly viable player character concept.

And with Eldritch Heritage, the PC in question needn't even be a sorcerer.

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Turin the Mad wrote:
You forget that the PCs that survive RoW stand a good chance of returning to Golarion with a cache of modern firearms and heavy weapons (flamethrowers, mortars, machine guns, perhaps a cannon or two). So, this is a valid observation.

derailish:
The CS makes no assumptions about PCs' success or failure.

This thread seems to be about surprising, unusual or interesting things which are part of the baseline campaign setting.

Things which might exist on Golarion if your PCs complete a specific AP and make certain choices at the end seems to need a pretty massive disclaimer.

If you play in a homebrew that is live on these boards then multiple-reality Golarion variants are crashing into each other like drunken uncles on a wedding dancefloor.

I was just trying to make it clear that they are not on Golarion in the way that cocaine or 'alka-seltzer' are.

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feytharn wrote:
You didn't bother to read the adventure, did you?

I was trying to minimize spoilers.


GeraintElberion wrote:
Turin the Mad wrote:
You forget that the PCs that survive RoW stand a good chance of returning to Golarion with a cache of modern firearms and heavy weapons (flamethrowers, mortars, machine guns, perhaps a cannon or two). So, this is a valid observation.

** spoiler omitted **

Good point! I do note the forward for Chapter 6 of RoW. ;)

Widespread stuff is on-topic. Which is pretty fun!

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Haladir wrote:
Aquaman is a perfectly viable player character concept.

Aquaman wouldn't be a sorcerer though. He's never been about magic as much as brute force. The only time he was truly magical was when he had the water hand. Now his former sidekick on the other hand? Tempest is the Aquatic Sorcerer you are looking for.


Drachasor wrote:

Waffle Mix and the Waffle Iron? (Or non-stick Mithril Waffle Iron).

I got a Yak to carry my folding table, folding chairs, waffle mix, waffle iron, and ceremonial tea set. Among other things.

In a game I'm in, one of our characters got a mithril waffle iron (for some reason), then gave it to my char to keep in his handy haversack. I'm actually holding onto it for when we face a lycanthrope.

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A Monk of the Empty Hand, or Breaker Barbarian, would love a Mithral Waffle Iron.


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A Monk of the Empty Hand, or Breaker Barbarian, would love a Mithral Waffle Iron.

"I draw my sword!"

"I nock an arrow to my bow!"

"WAFFLE IRON AT THE READY!!!"

I want a vorpal mithril waffle iron ...


pennywit wrote:


In a game I'm in, one of our characters got a mithril waffle iron (for some reason), then gave it to my char to keep in his handy haversack. I'm actually holding onto it for when we face a lycanthrope.

Lovely, wererat waffles. I can feel my stomach turning now. Of course, you could use a mithral waffle iron to cook wereboar bacon too.


zimmerwald1915 wrote:
Evil Midnight Lurker wrote:
I was thinking Pei was more Chairman Mao?
So did I at first, but Bachuan's sabre-rattling in the direction of Hwanggot reads like an analogue of the DPRK's relationship with the RoK, and the succession of leadership from Grandfather Pei to his wife sounds more like the succession of leadership in the DPRK (father to son) than in the PRC (one political faction to another).

The hostility with the southern neighbor could also be inspired by traditional antipathy between China and Vietnam. The ideological purity issue with Grandmother Pei has me thinking of Jiang Qing (Madame Mao) and the Cultural Revolution too.

I think the DPRK/PRC link for Bachuan and Hwanggot would be stronger if there were civil war overtones rather than just nationalist saber rattling.


Cori Marie wrote:
Haladir wrote:
Aquaman is a perfectly viable player character concept.
Aquaman wouldn't be a sorcerer though. He's never been about magic as much as brute force. The only time he was truly magical was when he had the water hand. Now his former sidekick on the other hand? Tempest is the Aquatic Sorcerer you are looking for.

Not much of a comic book fan, but... swim speed, breathe underwater, telepathy with fish! Sounds like Aquaman to me!

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