This Monday, July subscriptions should be shipping. That means Mike Shel's The Dragon's Demand the first of the new Pathfinder Supermodule format will be in our downloads next week. Some lucky fools will have it Monday possibly.
We know The Dragon's Demand will have HARD COLD FACTS about the Dominion of the Black.
How do we know this? I'll tell you how we know!
From James Jacobs's lips to your ears!
It don't get more cold-hard-facty than that.
Who or what mysterious agencies are behind the Dominion? Tell us what you know!
Take a guess. Be specific. Put it behind spoiler tags just in case. Its okay if you agree with somebody else, you'll share in the glory and the bragging rights. NO INSIDER KNOWLEDGE! Take your guess before it starts to ship.
Here's mine:
What's your guess?
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My money is on that something Mikaze said is right.
My money is on that something Mikaze said is right.
Non-answer! Non-specific! Gutless! YOU LOSE!
I'm kidding, but there's no courage in ambiguity. Unless of course, you're a political analyst on a cable news network. "What I think is really important here is something you didn't just ask me about.."
I'm pretty sure you're right, Jim, and that would be my guess, too.
What I'm really curious about is how the Dominion factors into Dragon's Demand...
I think there will be a "Dominion" subspecies, just like "Demon" or "Kyton," with members falling into a broad range of challenge ratings.
So your guess is a new creature type, with new original creatures belonging to it?
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Weren't the pods just Alien easter eggs?
Which means they might never be used again.
I think they want to keep the mystery on Dominion of the Black so it'll be just a few teasing, suggestive details rather than anything to build understanding from.
I'm thinking that there'll be a hive-mind element to the Dominion.
The mythology that has placed dragons as an off-shoot of the First World linnorms was way wrong . . . Dragons actually are the Dominion of the Black, an alien species that has yet to reveal their deepest and darkest secrets for Golarion. Even the metallics have only been playing a role of true deception up to this point, establishing themselves hereto as agents of good, simply waiting for the right time to spring their plan into action.
Who knew, all this time, dragons were actually dark agents from the stars?
Bold guess Sub-Creator! I approve of taking your best shot!
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There, she accidentally touched or ate some of the black ichors residing there (leftovers from the Dominion's probes), and it affected her mind permanently. She now sends/receives telepathic messages to the Dominion in space, informing them about Golarion and its inhabitants. Using threats as leverage against the humanoid population to gain riches and food from them has backfired, and the humanoids are about to attack. So she sends a little message out into the stars.
The Dominion shows up, and they are basically the Engineers/Space Jockeys from Alien/Prometheus, all jacked up on genetically-engineered black space juice. All manner of disgusting alien species (brain crabs included) are sent out to kill and capture humanoids, and a genetics-altering goo slowly turns the PCs against one another as they try to battle the Dominion's dominance.
By the end of the adventure, the original black dragon gives birth / is mutated into something absolutely wondrous, hideous, with tentacles or no eyes.
Oh wait, was this supposed to be what I *actually* think it will be about, or the adventure that I pretty much want it to be? In any case, I'm sure it will be very good. :P ;)
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I wouldn't be shocked if there were a draconic element, though I really don't know enough about Golarion lore to make an educated guess.
But it is "The Dragon's Demand" after all. And wasn't there mention of some weird dragons for Bestiary 4? "Outer Dragons" or something like that? Maybe they'll be tied in.
I wouldn't be shocked if there were a draconic element, though I really don't know enough about Golarion lore to make an educated guess.
But it is "The Dragon's Demand" after all. And wasn't there mention of some weird dragons for Bestiary 4? "Outer Dragons" or something like that? Maybe they'll be tied in.
The "Outer Dragons" would be my bet as well.
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Oh, snap! Xidoraven!
I never thought about connecting the Dominion of the Black with the Land of Black Blood/Blackfrost/Black Muck of Aucturn before! Don't know why it never occurred to me!
But now I think there must be some kind of connection there!
(Of course, now that I'm thinking about it, it should have been obvious all along. Especially with the whole X-Files/aliens/black oil parallels.)
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That is a very good guess.
Those thoughts are running all through my other Conspiracy thread.
Not sure why *I* didn't think of it.
You say no insider knowledge. I assume that having the PDF already counts? ;)
You say no insider knowledge. I assume that having the PDF already counts? ;)
If you have the secret from the PDF please go right ahead.
Do please use spoiler tags if you know for sure. But I would be delighted to open your spoiler tag and learn the truth.
This was all for fun, so I don't mind being wrong. :)
At LEAST one thing on this thread is correct.
As long as you're having fun with it! :)
At LEAST one thing on this thread is correct.
Tease. :P
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You say no insider knowledge. I assume that having the PDF already counts? ;)If you have the secret from the PDF please go right ahead.
Do please use spoiler tags if you know for sure. But I would be delighted to open your spoiler tag and learn the truth.
This was all for fun, so I don't mind being wrong. :)
Well then....
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Just got it. :)
If we're extrapolating the nature of the Dominion from what's in this adventure:
Feeding on thoughts and emotions seems to be the unifying theme between the neh-thalggu, vespergaunts, and the new yangethe. Maybe these beings serve as sense or information collectors for the Dominion as a whole? Possibly operating like the sensory organs of a greater whole?
With the Grioth description, it sounds like the Dominion has a very antagonistic relationship with the followers of Nyralathotep.
Still not sure if one can derive an accurate picture of the Dominion from that, but it does point in certain directions.
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:) I love UFO/ET/Conspiracy-Theory stuff, especially to help inspire me to write better fiction. :P
If there isn't already a villain in the Golarion mythos making use of black goo that affects everyone in a violent/mutating way, then it is my personal opinion that all Golarion villains are essentially wimps, regardless of their other past deeds. You have not surpassed yourselves; keep trying. The Engineers still beat you.
Another thing I have yet to put to use: When referencing something called Project Lotus, a scientist says they were able to create something using these micro-wormholes to release exotic micro-particles, and in the process, were able to create organic matter from them. The nature of this organic matter appeared to be similar to neural cells, and the concern that they may be "growing" an artificial intelligence far beyond their comprehension popped up, and they shut down that aspect of the propagation project. Now, imagine a villain taking the opposite decision.
What/where does this inter-planar neural goo come from? What is it forming? And how does the malevolent and despicable mind put it to fair use?
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So, after the latest installment of Wrath of the Righteous (Demons' Heresy), I think we can say without much doubt that the Dominion is made up of neh-thalggu. At the very least, they are the bottom rung.
I haven't gotten around to reading my subscriber copy in too much detail yet. What are the Dominion references?
Speaking of the Dominion and the Neh-Thalggu connections, it occurred to me earlier today that the Draeden, Immortal beings from the Mentzer/Gold Box Immortals set, would be really cool upper level Dominion entities (leaders?)
I don't know if they're Wizards IP or not, but if not, I'd love to see them as part of the Dominion.
(There's a picture of them on this page, but it doesn't do them justice. They're tremendously large. Hundreds of thousands of feet large.)
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Awesomesauce. The worm that walks article has a Lovecraft quote as well, so I wasn't sure how far beyond the creepy crawly big bad the Dominion stuff went. It seems that the time has come for the developers to reveal details about the Dominion of the Black. It features prominently in Mummy's Mask as well.
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It features prominently in Mummy's Mask as well.Where did you read that? Because from what I've read, the devs have specifically noted that the Dominion of the Black will not have any involvement with Mummy's Mask. I could find specific quotes, but meh. One reason they won't be featured is because they will definitely be showing up in the AP after Mummy's Mask, Iron Gods. Specifically, adventure 4 of Iron Gods is entitled "Valley of the Brain Eaters" - which you may know is the layman's term for neh-thalggu. Also, this is yet more evidence that the Dominion is all about neh-thalggu.
Here's your quote:
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Maybe I'm thinking of Iron Gods, but I'm pretty sure Mr. Jacobs came off one of the con panels saying the Dominion would feature prominently in the AP.
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I just went back and read this thread and I was thinking of Iron Gods not Mummy's Mask featuring the Dominion.