Dabbler |
I don't think so, no. It's only considered a double weapon for purposes of crafting, not for fighting.
The whole point of this weapon is that you have a ranged weapon (musket) and a melee weapon (axe) in the same package, so you do not have to change weapon, can make attacks of opportunity while fighting at range, etc.
Jayne Munny |
However, I would say that you threaten with an axe-musket, which you do not with a musket. Since it is a melee weapon and a ranged weapon!
Not that Vera would ever let me get such a thing. Why she was downright orn'ry when I picked up that buckler-gun. I even told her it was just for signaling' and the like, but you know how pissy a musket can be. She'll fergive me right soon enough. Didn't she mke 'er point when he blasted the last big-bad we faced right twix 'is eyes?
But a musket-ax? She prolly wouldna shoot or days were I to buy me one of dem. and I wouldna blame her.
Kazaan |
As a corollary, when two-handed fighting with a double weapon, you count it as wielding a one-handed and light weapon for the purpose of determining TWF attack penalties so you can't say "Oh, the off-hand end of my double-sword is now a light weapon so I can use Weapon Finesse and Piranha Strike with it".
Xaratherus |
A sword-cane is considered a one-handed weapon; a dagger is a light weapon; a pistol is a one-handed firearm [weapon]. I would say yes, that they all qualify.
Technically, a light or one-handed weapon with the double quality should still qualify; the fact that it has the double quality doesn't remove it from its base weapon category.
Barry Armstrong |
Does.. a Axe Musket count as a double weapon, as the normal double weapon rules? In other words.. Can it be 'duel' wielded?
No. See BBT's very clear and definitive answer. If they don't have the "double" weapon property, they do not gain the benefits of a double weapon.
Also, the only real reason for having the dual enchantment costs is so, as Dabbler says, you can threaten close range for AoO's with an axe that's enchanted separately from the musket.
Dabbler |
blackbloodtroll wrote:Right. So if none of them have the double weapon quality, that would mean that they should really just be looked at as two separate weapons with something else attached.None of them have the double quality.
I keep saying it.
You got it. They are two different weapons attached to one another, and you use them in an either/or sense, not an either/and sense. Your Axe Musket is an Axe OR a Musket. A quarterstaff is a club at one end AND a club at the other end.
Ævux |
Ævux wrote:Does.. a Axe Musket count as a double weapon, as the normal double weapon rules? In other words.. Can it be 'duel' wielded?No. See BBT's very clear and definitive answer. If they don't have the "double" weapon property, they do not gain the benefits of a double weapon.
Also, the only real reason for having the dual enchantment costs is so, as Dabbler says, you can threaten close range for AoO's with an axe that's enchanted separately from the musket.
Right, I've seen it over and over.. And with his very clear answer, its very clear that one could use the sword cane part of the weapon for Black Blade, as the sword Cane pistol is more like an adamantine sword cane than it is a double sword.
Xaratherus |
Re: The double quality - I'm aware that the sword cane pistol and the pistol dagger don't have that quality. :P I was pointing out that, theoretically if there were a light- or one-handed double (slashing) weapon, it should still qualify for black blade.
For example, a double-ended dagger (which was a semi-common formal weapon in India) should qualify.