Druid Archetypes: Menhir / Saurian, do they stack


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For PFS.

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Is there a reason that PFS would handle it differently than what the PFRPG rules say?


The reason I ask is because the locals here seem to believe the answer is yes, but I seem to recall the answer is no. This is based on a PFS game scheduled to begin in 20 minutes. I do not have books with me until the game starts. (a friend borrowed my ipad and headed to starbucks to make a character. I could google on my phone, but phones suck. . .

Grand Lodge RPG Superstar 2012 Top 32

Menhir Savant replaces Wild Empathy, and Saurian Shaman modifies Wild Empathy. Thus, they do not stack, per the archetype rules.


HeroLab allows in it's PFS setting.


Saurian Shaman does not effect Wild Empathy, so yes.

Grand Lodge RPG Superstar 2012 Top 32

Bongo BigBounce wrote:
Saurian Shaman does not effect Wild Empathy, so yes.
Saurian Shaman wrote:
Wild Empathy (Ex): A saurian shaman can use wild empathy with dinosaurs and reptiles as a full-round action with a +4 bonus.

Reading > HeroLab


Thank you Jiggy, I seemed to recall that they changed the same thing, but not having my books, I was briefly led astray by hero labs. I have over-ruled hero labs in light of RAW.

Thank you all for your speedy replies.

Wild Empathy (Ex): A saurian shaman can use wild
empathy with dinosaurs and reptiles as a full-round
action with a +4 bonus.
-Ultimate Magic, Page 40

Spirit Sense (Sp): At 1st level, a menhir savant can detect
the presence of undead; fey; outsiders; and astral, ethereal,
or incorporeal creatures. This ability functions like detect
undead, and the druid detects all of these creatures rather
than trying to detect one kind. This ability replaces nature
sense and wild empathy.
-Ultimate Magic, Page 38 [emphasis added]

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