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I usually play dwarves, and will be playing a human because it is a rare choice for me. Usually I don't play humans, because I am one.
That last point is debatable according to my coworkers, depending on what project we are working on.
Dwarves are like a mixture of miniature red necks and Gauls. You never know how long the roller coaster will last, but you know it will be an interesting ride while you are strapped in.
I'm not sure if I wanna play a human or elf, though I want to have 3 toons, so we'll be seeing hehe
Is this kingdom joining Golgatha, or will it have it's separate city. I thought I saw one of your members mention it was joining Golgatha at some point, though, the guild, while LN, seems to lean more toward LG than LE, so, I would think that TEO would be a better choice. Just wondering.
There are sundry treaty negotiations between the nation of Aeternum and the Golgothan empire currently. Both however are big and vibrant communities aiming for eventually expanding into multi settlement kingdoms. Both will likely be settlement holders from the point that settlements are in game
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Is this kingdom joining Golgatha, or will it have it's separate city. I thought I saw one of your members mention it was joining Golgatha at some point, though, the guild, while LN, seems to lean more toward LG than LE, so, I would think that TEO would be a better choice. Just wondering.
We're not a chartered company looking for a settlement to join, we're a nation that is open to having other chartered companies join or make treaties with us. TEO and Golgotha probably see themselves the same way.
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Pax Aeternum is pleased to announce the grand opening of The Talking Head Tavern!
As we move toward Early Enrollment, this offers us a chance to get to know the characters, as well as the players, we'll be sharing the River Kingdoms with. This is for casual, non-canon RP. Feel free to reminisce overa tankard of ale, meet new friends and old for a fireside chat, entertain everyone with a song, or brood meaningfully in a dark corner.
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Really looking forward to getting back to the Tavern when I get back from vacation. Just can't force myself to sit at the iPad and type right now!
Very glad everyone is enjoying it. We need a "fun" outlet to offset the speculation and earnest, sometimes cutthroat discussions around here.
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Hey everyone.
Posting this at the end of my 2 week application process, but I've been burned out by work, with the holidays rolling through and coming up, it feels a bit like a nightmare sometimes. Any-whom, I go by a few names, Kyrie, YuriLoli, Yuri Sensen, etc. But Yuri Sensen felt more appropriate to use as my display name... I think. I'm honestly not sure, I'm pretty terrible at making up a good username. :c
The reason why I came here is by the suggestion of a friend who is also part of the community. However, I would be lying if I denied my own admission to curiosity's sake of going along with it. The community is sweet, and unique all together. I admit, this is my first time joining an actual gaming community, aside from guilds, so I'm a bit new to all of this. Hope to make some friends at the very least. :3
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Oh my! I'm a bit late but anyway congratulations on your first goon sleeper agent. xD
1) As far as I am aware we have no goon sleeper agents, nor would it profit the goons to plant a sleeper agent in our midst.
2) We in Pax aren't actually worried by the goons a lot of us have tangled with them in other games and know that their reputation is vastly overblown. The only way goons are going to effect us is if they join PfO 1000 strong. A sleeper agent will be neither here nor there as they will not be able to disband the alliance as they did to a group in Eve (Ryan said something along this lines)
3) If a goonswarm member applied to us it wouldn't effect their chance of recruitment as we look at people as individuals for application and do not tar them by the brush of association. I am sure that goonswarm have some perfectly good individuals in them despite the Mittani and some others being a bit of a "£%$£^%^$^ .
TLDR even if true we aren't concerned
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The scaremongering put about in regards to the Goons is hilarious, and is probably based off of ignorance more than anything else. The EvE Online Goons are scary. They have pre-established support networks setup in such a way that they can react with more force than almost anyone else. But the EvE Online Goons do not represent the entirety of the SA gaming community. They have more failed divisions than they do successful ones. The EvE Online division is an abnormality, not the rule.
Anyone who has actually lead groups against the Goons in other games will tell you the same thing; They are a challenging opponent, but far from the unbeatable swarm of locusts that they turned out to be in EvE. Pathfinder Online would be better for their participation. If nothing else it would force some of the smaller groups who think they are going to be fine with all of their fifty or so members to start organising things properly.
If the Goons are indeed looking at Pax with curiosity, I would encourage them to open diplomatic lines with us. Chances are we would be happy to openly work together.
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I have been pretty up front about the same topic. If Goons came to PFO in small numbers, and were looking for a company to join up with, the UNC would gladly take them in.
If Goons came in massive numbers, the UNC would make contact and attempt to coexist. Sometimes on the same side, other times perhaps but.
If Goons were an open threat to Pax, we would obviously fight them until one side or the other was defeated.
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With all this talk of goons resurfacing I think it worth restating the Pax position so there can be no doubt in any ones minds.
Any group large or small who we believe come with the intention of ruining the game we in Pax will oppose and be more than happy to team up with the rest of the population to do so.
Any group large or small who we believe come with the intention of playing the game we will deal with in the same manner as we do any of the current EE groups.
We will judge groups coming to the game by what they do and say in game not by the reputation they carry from other games nor by what others think of those groups
Other groups are free to do as they choose on this matter but we in Pax gaming believe this is both a reasonable and fair position to take
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Rationale for Membership:
Given that I have been posting on this forum as an unaffiliated community member for nearly a year, my choice to join Pax may come as a surprise to some. I have been considering the move for a while now, based on a year of interaction and growing friendships, a clearer, long-term view of my own gaming interests (not simply PFO), and recent developments within the PFO Division of Pax itself. Simply put, the list of reasons to join has steadily grown, while the reasons to remain unaffiliated just don't seem like worthwhile arguments any longer.
As some may know, I have had a number of RP initiatives running over on the Pax forums. These sprang both from a friendship with Ezekial Krows and from the open, welcoming, community oriented spirit of Pax in general. As we waited for EE, I had ideas of how to spend the time - how to promote RP for my own entertainment, for that of Pax members, and given their open board policy, for anyone else who cared to participate. During these interactions, I have had the distinct pleasure of getting to know far more than the initial handful of PFO hopefuls I knew from the Paizo boards. It has been some of the most fun moments I have had since Ultima Online.
My Current Community Initiatives
Past experiences (mainly in Ultima Online) had taught me that it was easier to help network various game community entities if I was not affiliated with any particular group. The suspicions of some players had given me the impression that for my various initiatives to be seriously considered, I would have to be viewed as pitching them without any ulterior motives. This dictated that I not be viewed as beholden to any particular group. I have given this assumption a great deal of thought lately, and the conclusion I have reached is that...I need to stop worrying about suspicious people.
The community initiatives I have proposed thus far for PFO (The Guide Program, Playing Extras, and RP Event Managers) are, in my belief, important enough to those who find them worthy ideas to succeed on their own merits - not on whether I am an unaffiliated player or not. If some are so suspicious of my membership in Pax, or do not know me well enough to know that what I promise to do (e.g. set aside my Pax hat when serving as a Guide) will not be twisted by affiliation with any particular group, then they aren't people I need to associate with in the first place. I do community building work in games to help increase the game enjoyment for other players, not to win votes.
This in no way means I intend to transform these initiatives into Pax only or Pax controlled or Pax bias initiatives. Truth be told, many Pax members had already planned to take part in these before I decided to join Pax, and many of these players have participated in similar programs within other games long before they met me. Will I be creating RP activities in Pax - most definitely. Does that mean I will somehow begin to exclude non-Pax members - absolutely not. Actually, one of my reason for joining is to do just the opposite...
The Pax You Don't Know
One of the roles I had hoped to play in PFO was that of a neutral, third party who might help mediate between groups that found themselves at odds - as players, characters, or both. I have done so before and it is a very satisfying, very fulfilling accomplishment, especially if the existing conflict was having a negative effect on the community as a whole. I do not think it comes as any surprise that there seems to be two camps on nearly any argument within the confines of this forum. Thinking all the way back to when I was a member of TEO, it seemed to start out of a suspicion of Pax, given it's perceived size in a game where numbers will have real mechanical effects upon your gaming success (resource and territorial control). Unfortunately, that suspicion has grown into strongly voiced differences in gaming philosophy, opinions on what PFO should be like, and even personal disputes too often aired in public. In short, though I think all groups in question could benefit from a cease fire, and that the majority of each group could actually get along with one another - could find much common ground together in PFO - I think the ire between a few people is past the point of my having any effect as a neutral party.
I can tell you from first hand conversations that Pax members - including their highest leadership - have nothing but praise for many members in TEO and T7V. Unfortunately, I do not think many of the members of those two guilds have had much firsthand experience with Pax, aside from this forum, to form a similar judgment. And I, as a neutral party, could talk until I'm blue in the face about how supportive and community minded Pax is as a gaming community (because I've posted on and read their forums, chatted for hours in Team Speak, and played alongside them in games), but it will never change some people's minds. Actions speak far louder, and though I have a dozen other reason to join Pax, I'll let my actions in joining their ranks speak for my opinion of them.
RP, Crafters, Good Alignment & Pax
There has been a lot of speculation on how Pax will treat its crafters, it's role-players, and those who wish to play good alignments in PFO. In the dispute about crafters being treated as second class citizens, somehow Pax was painted as uncaring for its crafters or for those who did not commonly PvP. As too often happens in these thread wars, the statements made were stretched far beyond their intent, simply to serve the poster's ends. Aeternum will be a trading hub. As such, they will be treating their harvesters and crafters as well (or better) than anyone else. The one point being made, however - and made again at a recent Pax TS discussion of their good settlement project - was that during something like an invasion of the Empire, the expectation would be for all hands on deck. That might not mean every hand holds a sword, but every warm body should be helping to defend their own home in the best way their skills allow. In actuality, this has more to do with Pax's philosophy of community before self than any desire to force its members to play one particular way. It is an echo of, "Ask not what your nation can do for you, but what you can do for your nation," that is too often lacking when egocentric players seek out a guild for a game.
Similarly false was the assumption made that the recent inclusion of the UNC as a sponsored company and Golgotha as the evil side of the Xeilian Empire automatically meant Pax was "going evil" and the rumors of it wanting to dominate all of PFO were, in some people's eyes, finally justified. Having sat in on the TS discussion of how to create a potential settlement accommodating good alignments, I can tell you that Pax had no intention of forgetting its members who want to play good aligned characters. Though I haven't been on TS in several days, I can almost guarantee that Pax members are already hard at work trying to find a way to make the most recent alignment blog information work for all their members' desired play styles. If Pax is anything, it is both inclusive and big picture oriented. Posters who are viewing their attempts to allow multiple alignments under the same roof as unrealistic are missing that bigger picture - Pax is already thinking of kingdom/empire, not simply one homogeneous settlement. Yes, they are very pragmatic in their planning (one settlement may be all that any group can manage in the beginning), but before they jump into any endeavor, Pax looks far down the road, not only for their own members, but for the benefit of whatever community within which they play.
Speaking of a good company, POI, settlement, etc., this is the most recent reason I have decided to join Pax. We all know that playing good will provide challenges in this game. Attempting to represent an empire with many alignments, some of those opposite to your own, will also be challenging. Finding roles within that empire that appeal to good aligned characters while providing meaningful benefit to that empire is yet another challenge. Given that it may be OE before many of my other community initiatives will have a purpose, I needed something to sink my teeth into. This looks to be that something.
Wrap Up
The final reason for joining Pax goes far beyond PFO. As I have already said, the people in Pax have been wonderfully welcoming, nonjudgmental of my many months of nonaffiliation, have never given to ultimatums or pressure to join while offering nearly all the same benefits as provided to members, etc. If you read their forums, shoutbox, or listen on TS, you discover that they have spent years nurturing a community - a family - of players. Given their numbers, there is almost always someone around to chat with, to game with, etc., and with their numerous divisions, there is usually a game they support as a community for nearly anybody's taste. That's one of the things that strikes you when you hang out with these people long enough - the lack of walls. The vast majority of their forums are open to the public, members move almost seamlessly from one game division to another, and even their officers rise to help out, then readily hand over their rank to another when they've finished the job they rose in rank to do or when they need to deal with real life. In addition, their leadership is a PM away, all the way up to Rawn, who is one of the most warmhearted, community minded people I've ever met in my dozen years of online gaming. With all of that, and always the possibility that PFO doesn't even make it as a game, I too need to look further down the road when thinking of my own gaming enjoyment. I've never been a member of a guild for any length of time, but seeing within Pax what I have been missing, I have no doubt that I have made the right choice.
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Booo! Hobs! You traitorous hypocrite. Just kidding. :P
Hope you have fun with Pax and are able to better promote the 'good' aspects of Pax.
From T7V with luv... :P
Knowing several members from T7V (I'm missing Lhan - haven't seen or talked with him in months - and I hope to be working closely with avari3 for RP initiatives), I hope we can find some common ground for positive interaction between T7V and Pax. I have always appreciated Nihimon's and your group's dedication to providing and cataloging information for the community, both on the forum and eventually in-game (the proposed libraries I've heard tell about). Whether we can collaborate on these or other initiatives, I'm hopeful that many of the original forum groups, likely the first EEers, will set the tone for community cooperation, regardless of how wild things become at OE.