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captain yesterday wrote:
The last Transformers movie wasn't overly successful I'd thought...

Perhaps. I haven't really been paying attention. I don't even know what the last one was. :)

The first ones made a ton of money though.


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I'm pretty sure it did terrible in the US (China probably made up for it I'm sure, they love their Transformers over there!).


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I'm sick of talking about the future crappy D&D movie. I'm creating another thread for another topic. :)


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https://www.polygon.com/2017/12/19/16795148/dungeons-and-dragons-movie-rele ase-date

https://www.forbes.com/sites/toddkenreck/2017/07/31/why-now-is-the-time-for -a-dungeons-dragons-movie/#5f5883bb7f93

Pretty good article.

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thejeff wrote:
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Hasbro has a vested interest to protect the brand name? Have you seen Transformers?

You mean the blockbuster hit movie series Transformers? Or the multiple successful cartoon series? Or the current apparently awesome comic series?

I know there's a ton of fanrage and I'll freely admit I'm not fond of the movies, but they're undeniably successful. I'd love to see that kind of success for a D&D movie. Even if it was a lowbrow action blockbuster.
It's not like the previous attempts failed because they were serious works of art. They failed because they were lousy movies, even for mindless action flicks.

Successful doesn't mean good.


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TRANSFORMERS is getting a reboot.

The BUMBLEBEE movie this year looks like it will be the end of the Bayverse. The 2019 "TRANSFORMERS 6" movie has been cancelled and Hasbro/Paramount don't have another TRANSFORMERS movie currently in official development.

Hasbro/Paramount are instead developing a new "shared universe" consisting of a rebooted GI JOE, MICRONAUTS and MASK (I think there's 2 other old toylines in there as well), which may tie in with a newly-rebooted TRANSFORMERS line of movies. There's a big "event movie" Hasbro have planned for 2021 which should expand on that.

The previous plan was for the Bayverse to continue as an expanded universe of multiple films, including one set in Ancient Rome (!) and another set on ancient Cybertron. All of that's gone out the window: the writers' room they assembled appears to have been shuttered and the writers involved moved on to other projects (Kirkman to his Amazon deal, Lindsey Beer to the KINGKILLER CHRONICLE movie and TV series and Akiva Goldsman is taking a stronger role on STAR TREK: DISCOVERY). The reason is pretty clear: THE LAST KNIGHT made barely half of what the previous movie did and Hasbro/Paramount are pretty annoyed about it.

Given their insane marketing costs, it's actually possible that the movie did not make very much of a profit at all ($600 million versus a development budget of $220 million and marketing likely around $250 million). The whole idea was for TRANSFORMERS to churn up the money and subsidise development costs for the rest of the Hasbroverse, but if that's not guaranteed going forwards, Paramount may start asking what the point of the deal is. On that basis, these next few movies - including D&D - have a lot riding on them.


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Hama wrote:
thejeff wrote:
Hama wrote:
Hasbro has a vested interest to protect the brand name? Have you seen Transformers?

You mean the blockbuster hit movie series Transformers? Or the multiple successful cartoon series? Or the current apparently awesome comic series?

I know there's a ton of fanrage and I'll freely admit I'm not fond of the movies, but they're undeniably successful. I'd love to see that kind of success for a D&D movie. Even if it was a lowbrow action blockbuster.
It's not like the previous attempts failed because they were serious works of art. They failed because they were lousy movies, even for mindless action flicks.

Successful doesn't mean good.

Won't argue with that.

I'd love to have a true classic fantasy movie come out of this, don't get me wrong.
But I'd rather have a successful blockbuster popcorn flick, than an artistic and financial flop like the previous D&D movies. No question at all. Better for the industry, better for everyone.

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captain yesterday wrote:
The last Transformers movie wasn't overly successful I'd thought...

It had a very soft opening weekend. International sales made it profitable, but less so than past films in the franchise. Budget was $217 million, and worldwide gross is just over $600 million. So the profit was less than $200 million.

That's probably enough to keep the franchise alive, but poor in Transformers and other blockbusters' terms. Age of Extinction was more than double that, with worldwide gross breaking $1 billion.

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Werthead wrote:

The BUMBLEBEE movie this year looks like it will be the end of the Bayverse.

I think that was the idea with The Last Knight. It was planned to be Bay's last time at the helm. That's gotta be a good thing.

The other things you mention seem like projects I'd like to see given a shot. I thought the first GI Joe was brainless fun, but the second was a mess. A GI Joe reboot and a Micronauts film would certainly satisfy the 10 year old living inside me.


TomParker wrote:
Werthead wrote:

The BUMBLEBEE movie this year looks like it will be the end of the Bayverse.

I think that was the idea with The Last Knight. It was planned to be Bay's last time at the helm. That's gotta be a good thing.

The other things you mention seem like projects I'd like to see given a shot. I thought the first GI Joe was brainless fun, but the second was a mess. A GI Joe reboot and a Micronauts film would certainly satisfy the 10 year old living inside me.

The old Micronauts Marvel comic series was favorite, long after I was 10.

I doubt any film would draw much from it, unfortunately.

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thejeff wrote:

The old Micronauts Marvel comic series was favorite, long after I was 10.

I doubt any film would draw much from it, unfortunately.

Same here. I am positive I have the entire first run of The Micronauts in a long box somewhere.

I'd love to see Marvel and Hasbro make up and pull this into the MCU. It bugs me every time they talk about the Quantum Realm in Ant-Man. Just say it! Say Microverse! Say it!

I want some Arcturus Rann and Baron Karza.


I used to have the entire Micronauts run. While I was at university my mom without telling me put it up for sale in a in a curio shop and someone cherry picked all the issues with Marvel crossovers such as the FF4 but curiously left me with most of the first 12.

I loved it as a teen, and will admit to loving the issues with Princess Mari in Gangster Moll outfits.


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It looks like Rob Letterman is out as director. Chris McKay (NIGHTWING, THE LEGO BATMAN MOVIE) has been tapped to replace him and there's new writers on board as well.

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Hmm, I have a feeling the D&D movie is going in a very light hearted and/or even slapstick direction given McKay's background. Not a direction id prefer, but who knows?


Well if it's close to say, Dan Harmon's Harmonquest, I won't HATE it...

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^Ugh....

I will say McKays done a lot of parody of some pretty obscure references. I think he has respect for his material but has it ever not been comedy of the parody type?


What? I can't like Dan Harmon's Web series?!!

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