Kimono clothing or armor


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might be an odd question but is a kimono considered armor or clothing. if it is armor what are it's stats and cost .If it is clothing what does it cost and can clothing be enchanted.


Silken Ceremonial armor might be something similar. It gives +1 and it cost 30 gp. No ACP, no spellcasting failure, no maximum dex.


MrSin wrote:
Silken Ceremonial armor might be something similar. It gives +1 and it cost 30 gp. No ACP, no spellcasting failure, no maximum dex.

Ty for input i will use that if nothing else . i would like to know about kimono in the (jade regent gamemastery) but i don't have access to it at the moment need to buy it when i get the chance.


All clothing is armour with an AC of zero, as I understand things.


Clothing is a separate slot. So you could wear a kimono with a chain shirt underneath just fine.


Kimono can be made from either silk or cotton, and is definitely cloth. The obi (belt) worn by women, or gi worn by men are generally rough spun silk. While a kimono can be worn as one's only garment, it is often worn on top of other clothing, as a robe might be worn. Note a kimono has no pockets per se, rather the sleeves are wide, but the cuffs are more narrow than the body of the sleeve allowing items, purses and even weapons to be stored loosely in the sleeve, like a very large pocket.

While available in many colors and prints, most kimono colors are relatively conservative for the majority of people wearing them. Opulent colored kimono are generally reserved for entertainers like geisha (geisha in training called 'maiko' wear the most opulent of colors), kabuki actors, and prostitutes. Since indigo is the least expensive dye available (at least in Japan), this is the color worn by the farmers and working classes - either as solid indigo, indigo background with white designs, or white with indigo designs. White kimono are reserved for weddings, funerals (worn by the corpse) and to denote certain professions, like onmyoji wizards at court, or some court wide event where everyone is in white.

These kind of specific details for things like garments, sandals, hats, and accessories will presented across multiple releases of Kaidan setting of Japanese horror (Rite Publishing) supplements like the Haiku of Horror series, as well as the upcoming GM's and Player's Guides to Kaidan (Oct/Nov 2013 release).


You can treat clothing as a 0 AC armor, but I'd imagine particularly restrictive clothing might come with an AC penalty. I haven't worn any kimono yet, but some of them don't look like you can move very freely in them.


The Shaman wrote:
You can treat clothing as a 0 AC armor, but I'd imagine particularly restrictive clothing might come with an AC penalty. I haven't worn any kimono yet, but some of them don't look like you can move very freely in them.

A woman's kimono is more restrictive of movement than a man's kimono, simply by how the garment is wrapped behind the belt. This is kind of a male chauvenist thing of Japanese society. I've got a man's kimono at home (I haven't worn in years, but was purchased in Japan for participation in the Obon festival) - it is not restrictive in movement in any way.


The Shaman wrote:
You can treat clothing as a 0 AC armor, but I'd imagine particularly restrictive clothing might come with an AC penalty. I haven't worn any kimono yet, but some of them don't look like you can move very freely in them.

You could assign a max dex to a wide variety of clothing based on being restrictive of movement too; martial arts aren't done in tight jeans or narrow dresses for a reason. Don't know that it'd be worth the effort though.


VRMH wrote:
All clothing is armour with an AC of zero, as I understand things.

Ty for everyone's response how this is worded if clothing is considered a armor with a 0 AC bonus could it then benefit from a armor enchant like (wild}

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iyous wrote:
VRMH wrote:
All clothing is armour with an AC of zero, as I understand things.
Ty for everyone's response how this is worded if clothing is considered a armor with a 0 AC bonus could it then benefit from a armor enchant like (wild}

RAW, no, because there is no "masterwork clothing" listed, nor prices for it. Yes, some kimonos are very fancy and very expensive, and in a home game you could say that any kimono worth more than 150 gold (the price to add Masterwork to armor) could be enchanted--but more likely it would be as a magic robe than magic armor. If you want to get one that actually gives you an armor bonus, RAW you would go with Silk Ceremonial Armor, or maybe have your obi be a Haramaki--though both are recognizable as armor to anyone who knows what they are. Of course, any armor could look like a kimono if it's Glamered...


Dazz wrote:
iyous wrote:
VRMH wrote:
All clothing is armour with an AC of zero, as I understand things.
Ty for everyone's response how this is worded if clothing is considered a armor with a 0 AC bonus could it then benefit from a armor enchant like (wild}
RAW, no, because there is no "masterwork clothing" listed, nor prices for it. Yes, some kimonos are very fancy and very expensive, and in a home game you could say that any kimono worth more than 150 gold (the price to add Masterwork to armor) could be enchanted--but more likely it would be as a magic robe than magic armor. If you want to get one that actually gives you an armor bonus, RAW you would go with Silk Ceremonial Armor, or maybe have your obi be a Haramaki--though both are recognizable as armor to anyone who knows what they are. Of course, any armor could look like a kimono if it's Glamered...

Makes sense . ty that answers all my questions . TY FOR EVERYONE'S INPUT

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