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Shadow Lodge

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I ninja'd you, Sincubus!

Abominations
Byakhee
Demon, Golgothan Excremental
Demon, Candarian
Dhole
Flying Polyp
Hunting Horror
Lavawight
Nightgaunt
Paragon Creature (template)
Pseudonatural Creature (template)
Shadow of the Void
Shape of Fire
Umbral Blot


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I am waiting to see what is in Bestiary 4 before further chiming in on this :P

Although nightguant is confirmed for bestiary 4...


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MMCJawa wrote:

I am waiting to see what is in Bestiary 4 before further chiming in on this :P

Although nightguant is confirmed for bestiary 4...

That's exactly what I wanted to say XD

One thing I'll wuish for though is for them to NEVER imitate the 4th and 5th Monster Manuals for WotC. Here's what they've done:
- Reduced the number of monsters significantly... although if they go from 300 to 250, but have an additional section for new rules and stuff, that could pass.
- Spreaded monster entries to 2, 3 or even 4 pages... for a single monster, not to be confused with the highest-level monster from a specific Outsider type, which takes 2 pages.
- Revisited past monsters, usually playable races, with pre-made stat blocks and lair maps.
- Lack of creativity... especially the Spawn of Tiamat

So yeah, before asdking for more monsters, I just hoep that they won't change the format. The Bestiaries have been compact, well-organised and sorted. I don't see any problems with them. If extra pages would be needed to complete a monster's description, Paizo usually releases a booklet for that.


Posting in an awesome thread.

If not in B4, I hope to see the hupia in there. I wrote one up for usage and it has been really good so far.

Sovereign Court

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MAWRR MONSTERS !!!!


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The Oinodaemon.

Since Mythic is to be accounted for now: The actual Planes themselves as monsters.


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I put my oar in early in the Wish List for 4 but didn't really follow the thread after that.

But Barring their inclusion in 4 I would like to put forward these as candidates for 5 (everything needs more Appalachian/American folklore inspired creatures and cats).

Cait Sidhe
Malk
Grimmalkin
Wumpus Cat
Pooka/Puca
Nekomata
Tailypo
Squonk
Splintercat
Devil Monkeys
Snallygaster

Liberty's Edge

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More templates than I know what to do with. Please.

Contributor

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More creatures influenced by Latin American culture. i.e. Let's go to Arcadia!

Paizo Employee Developer

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Now that this thread exists, I have one small request.

Can folks please, please refrain from repeating their own lists multiple times throughout the thread? I pretty much gave up halfway through the Bestiary 4 wishlist because a few people posted exhaustive lists over and over and it made it hard to keep up with.

I fully understand that there's going to be overlap between different posters, but when the same person is posting the same wishes it gets unruly.

Thanks! I'll be keeping notes. :)


How is this not in the suggestion forum?

I am sorry, but time after-time other product suggestion threads got tossed from here there, but these seem immune. It really makes those other threads seem like they have been tossed in the trash forum.


Does it really matter?

Silver Crusade

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Sure thing, Adam! I only have one request... no, two requests, in any case. Neither is particularly serious, but I hope you'll get a chuckle out of them anyway. They are:

Colossal Frog

Colossal Pegasus

Mostly because I want to see the teeth-gnashing by miniatures companies wondering how in the hell they're going to make a profit from producing those. And the look on the players' face when the GM pulls one out. Or the look on the GM's face when a PC summons one.

Basically I think the Bestiary series is best when used to induce heart attacks.


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Captain Sir Hexen Ineptus wrote:

How is this not in the suggestion forum?

I am sorry, but time after-time other product suggestion threads got tossed from here there, but these seem immune. It really makes those other threads seem like they have been tossed in the trash forum.

Tend to think Fairness matters, but I will refrain from further posts here on the subject to not troll/derail the conversation.


atheral wrote:
Snallygaster

Check the bestiary articles in Kingmaker. ^.^


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Maybe this list should hold off until we see what's in the book? Just a thought...


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Adam Daigle wrote:

Now that this thread exists, I have one small request.

Can folks please, please refrain from repeating their own lists multiple times throughout the thread? I pretty much gave up halfway through the Bestiary 4 wishlist because a few people posted exhaustive lists over and over and it made it hard to keep up with.

I fully understand that there's going to be overlap between different posters, but when the same person is posting the same wishes it gets unruly.

Thanks! I'll be keeping notes. :)

Oh gawd yes....although I think a lot of that is due to the size of the thread, and people forgetting what they had already posted. Maybe just do links back to your original lists once the thread starts getting ridiculously long


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Wow this wishlist is way, way, way, too early, lets actually wait and see what is in the Bestiary 4 first.


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If you're going to make a list, why not just make a Google Doc of it and update it periodically?

Shadow Lodge

A spreadsheet might be useful, as you could arrange the list in alphabetical order and thus more easily eliminate duplicates.

Silver Crusade

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Celestials that are:

Ugly
Darkness-themed
Scary
and/or Alien in appearance and/or nature

Hey, I'm getting it done early this time around. :)

Ditto for player-appropriate races!

Silver Crusade

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More aberration influenced creatures please (the daelkyr halfblood from eberron is one of my all time favorite races to play)

Akata ~ Zenomorph, so Akata Queen ~ Zenomorph Queen :3

Oh and Daemons, I wub me some Daemons :3

The more monsters the merrier, please and thank you all.

Silver Crusade

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And maybe, if their even out there, some other good aligned creatures from the dark corners of the universe alongside Flumphs. Desna had to come from something, right?

Ooo and maybe some more things that are born from dreams or are born in dreams. Wondering what lives in the minds of the Wakeless Ones anyone?

Editor-in-Chief

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No rest for the wicked, I see...

(you treacherous bunch of jackals.)

Editor-in-Chief

Also I'm loving how many things I'm seeing on here that are already in... ;)

Silver Crusade

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F. Wesley Schneider wrote:

No rest for the wicked, I see...

(you treacherous bunch of jackals.)

Spotted Hyena, thank you very much


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F. Wesley Schneider wrote:
Also I'm loving how many things I'm seeing on here that are already in... ;)

Curse your cryptic in-house knowledge!

Silver Crusade

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F. Wesley Schneider wrote:
Also I'm loving how many things I'm seeing on here that are already in... ;)

Doesn't mean you get to slack off for #5 though :3

Silver Crusade

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More creatures of Revenge please, be they spirit, undead, or outsider.


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Mikaze wrote:

Celestials that are:

Ugly
Darkness-themed
Scary
and/or Alien in appearance and/or nature

Hey, I'm getting it done early this time around. :)

Ditto for player-appropriate races!

Yeah, weird stuff like eye six winged 4 head things.


Kthulhu wrote:

I ninja'd you, Sincubus!

Abominations
Byakhee
Demon, Golgothan Excremental
Demon, Candarian
Dhole
Flying Polyp
Hunting Horror
Lavawight
Nightgaunt
Paragon Creature (template)
Pseudonatural Creature (template)
Shadow of the Void
Shape of Fire
Umbral Blot

Why? Its much too soon for a Bestiary 5 wishlist as we don't know what is in bestiary 4 yet other than some very big large unique monsters, so I wait until Bestiary 4.

But then again I wished for most things I want already in bestiary 4 wishthread, only if I know something new or an update for an already wished-for creature then I put it here.

And most of those Lovecraft monsters will probably end up in bestiary 4, I think its the theme.


It's never too early. NEVAH!


Pendin Fust wrote:
The Oinodaemon.

I would assume that the Oinodaemon is actually a setting specific character like Graz'zt or Zuggtmoy. I don't think there are any ways to publish it outside of a licensed Planescape product.


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Ok, maybe fun to see how much of these creatures (my neverending final wishlist) make it into Bestiary 4. All that don't continue on to the wishlist of Bestiary 5.

I do expect many of these to fail in Bestiary 4 as it seems that Bestiary 4 concentrates more on very powerfull and big creatures instead of creatures from mythology and folklore, but I hope i'm wrong.

Remaining Wishlist:

UNDEAD

Acheri - Diseased undead little girls dressed as Native Americans, spreading diseases wherever they go.

Ahkiyyini - From Inuit mythology, large skeletons playing drums to create storms, monsoons and tidal waves.

Atropal - Mythic unborn godlings with immense power.

Itzpapalotl - Undead horrors with extreme beautiful butterfly wings, they look like humanoid skeletons but with the lower body of a seahorse skeleton and butterfly wings. They present the beauty of death.

Nachtkrapp - A swarm of undead crows that can merge to become a very large undead Crow.

Nightbloom - Flower version of the Nightshade family, it has toxic much like the real-world Nightshade Flower, anything it kills with this poison becomes a shadow.

Nightslitter - The ooze variant of the Nightshade family, everything it devoures will become undead, mostly only skeleton tho.

Phantom Sword - An Sword possessed by the spirit of its former wielder, very powerful undead.

Land Wight - An entire landscape animated by the spirit of a very powerful and evil individual, the Land Wight controlls the entire environment on which it was killed, animating the trees, the soil and even the rocks.

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VERMIN

Gold Digger Ant - From Greek mythology these golden ants come, collecting gold and often being prey to Aurumvorax, these powerful vermin are the dream of every golddigger.

Assassin Bug - Very hard to believe that the most feral of real-life insects still hasn't got its Paizo entry... Shame on you.

Deathwatch Beetle - Fire Beetles? Whatever. Deathwatch Beetles are the real deal.

Earwigs - Another creepy crawler that freaks me out and really needs to be in Pathfinder (in any form possible, I don't care)

Iron Isopod - These gorgon-meets-Ascomoid insects crush everything on their paths while rolling in their iron forms.

Cactus Mantis - Why only spiders and scorpions get magical versions? These plant-shapeshifting insects take the forms of cacti to trap and suprise prey, their thorns help in killing prey as well.

Sandwalker - As the least expected enemy in a desert would be a sea-creature. This Arab crab monster has 4 crab-like pinsirs and 2 scorpion-like stingers.

Net Casting Spider - The coolest of real-world spiders in a magical or just giant version.

Trapdoor Spider - Trapdoor Spiders a so much cooler than Crab Spiders... They should be there in any form, magical or just giant versions.

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BEASTS

Gorgonopsid - Because this sabretooth-pre-dinosaur is everything the Smilodon isn't.

Tanystropheus - The most bizarre and cool pre-dinosaurs would be the extremly-long-necked aquatic Tanystropheus, please don't make it share a page with Therizinosaurus, I want pictures of both.

Therizinosaurus - The most bizarre and nasty looking vega-saurus out there! Its sickle claws sure make short work of even t.rex.

Drop Bear - I know they are suppose to be a land-down-under joke, but jokes can be deadly if you have a weak heart.

Procoptodon - Giant elephant-sized Kangaroes? YES PLEASE! Riding your own private Procoptodon into battle, make that Jumping-into-battle! Of all Megafauna the Procoptodon is the most awesome one!

Diplocaulus - This boomerang-headed giant salamander just looks so cool! Be sure to give it bright colours to add in the effects.

Cookiecutter Shark - Why all sharks should be big? The most feral and evil sharks are actually very shark. Look it up if you don't believe me! Cookiecutter Sharks may have a silly name, they are your worst nightmare!

Candiru Swarm - Too much details on these freaks-of-nature would faint any creature in possession of a penis.

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PLANTS

Jubokko - The asian variant of the Vampire Rose, these Vampire Trees have blood-red leaves and probably some cool connection with Vampires.

MOAR Leshy - Flytrap and Cacti leshy's are what i'm after here, they should be higher CR rating than their cute brothers, and please don't make them look like cartoon heroes, I rather see them drawn in the style of the Fungus Leshy.

Infernal Lily - Most flowers wither and die in cold and hot temperatures, but these red hot cousins of the blue frozen Hail Lilies grow near lava and vulcanoes, they are also intelligent and prey on other intelligent prey.

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ABERRATIONS

Djieien - This freaky, magical version of the Solifigud aren't that big, but they are immortal and can't be killed as long as you don't find and pierce their hidden heart. For this reason they are also known as Lich Spiders.

Swarm Maw Fish - These strange and alien fish look like giant Swarm Maw fish that keep their young in their mouth, but like everything alien this swarm maw fish isn't anything like their real-world counterpart... What appears to be their young coming from their mouth is actually their swarm-formed stumic that they spit out to hunt for them.

Lava Archer Fish - One of the few creatures that can swim in hot lava, they can also swallow lava an spit it at flying creatures.

Umbral Angler Fish - Forever hunting on the plane of shadows and darkness are these Angler Fish that swim in shadow instead of water, luring victims with their pixie and/or nymph shaped lights.

The Thing - Yes from the movie of 1982. Just because its so freaking awesome and disgusting at the same time!

Rat King - A mutant rat from outer space, these terrible creatures look like giant rats with other rat parts (tails, heads, teeth, arms) growing out of them from all sides randomly.

Giant Thorncrown Starfish - Why this would be an aberration and not a vermin? Because unlike their real-world counterparts who destroy entire coral reefs, these gargantuan versions like to eat entire coastal villages, they can travel on land and have limited intelligence even so they know that they eat.

Thraie Abomination More wasp/hornet than bee-girl, these abominations of Thraie kind love to prey on their former species. They are probably corrupted by magic or created by another vile race to destroy the Thraie.

Maneater - My all time favorite mini-boss in Castlevania Games, these resemble three bright red tube-worms that live inside a titan skull.

Yara-Ma-Yha-Who - Much like the Drop Bear, the nasty Australian Yara drops from trees onto its child victims. There are very much strange details about these creatures, so just look them up on Wikipedia.

Akaname - Now joke creatures like Almiraj and Tooth Fairy (yay!) get into the bestiary, there is still hope for this Filth Licker! They have very long acid dripping tongues and they eat filth, much like a humanoid brother to the Otyugh then!

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FEY

Barbegazi - Also known as Frost Gnomes, these avalanche causing, evil Gnome varieties have very big feet! They should have been in the Winter AP, but they probably won't so that's why they need to be in Bestiary 4 or 5.

Batibat - Why all fey women need to be pretty and slim like nymphs and dryads? These are the fat and mean mama versions of the Dryad, if you hurt their trees they gonna sit on your body or head, and you don't want that!

Bauk - A nasty bogeyman that uses shadow to teleport. They are much like the Spot (Spiderman Villian) and use the same ability, creating little black spots in which it can teleport, they appear mostly as black shadow holes in a wall with nasty big yellow cat-like eyes in it.
A good example of the Bauk is the Tailypo.

Bloody Bones - This nasty bogeyman looks like a undead, but it is a bogeyman fey, they look like in blood-covered crawling skeletons that miss their lower body. They are the nightmare of every english child.

Kaw Kaw - Many fat-monsters in my wishlist! I'm kinda tired of perfect people/monsters anyway! This very fat monstrous bogeyman gulps down everything in its humongous maw, they are kinda like the Banderhobb from 4th Edition D&D.

Shellycoat - The sea/beach/water bogeyman. They look like creepy old hermits dressed in very strange and alien shells, they use these shells as weapons and instruments to steal their victims voices, they also live inside giant shells.

Buggane - The mole giant fey, protector of both good and evil fey, they look like straight-walking moles with ogre features. They are just too famous to be left out.

Fossegrim - I know, not much heterosexual males would like a sexy male monster inside their bestiary. But I do want one of these violin playing, blue haired and skinned fey to be in the bestiary! If they get their Nymphs and Succubi, I want my Fossegrim!

Firbolg - I would be suprised if these very-wanted fey giants aren't showing up in Bestiary 4, but you never know...

Jack-in-Irons - Slag Giants pretty much spoiled it for Jack in Irons (my wild guess as they are both about Iron/metal) to be in Bestiary 4, but maybe Bestiary 5?

Kikimora - While some 3rd party product claimed precious Kiki already, I think they more than anything deserve to be in original pathfinder products as well!

Jester Fey - Most likely Puck would be a fun jester fey name as it really suits them. No monster collection is finished without a jester-type fey that feeds on positive emotions and drains away the lust for life and humor.

Harionna - This japanese oni-monster would make Korreds and Rusalka's jealous! Their hair acts much like the Medusa from Marvel (the red haired space-mutant with animated hair). Harionna are beautiful but evil nymphs that can animate their hair into endless forms, they mostly make hooks out of their hair and pierce you with it.

Rarog - These red-haired fire-based fey travel in the form of meteor or fireball. They are already claimed by Fey Folio, but I want them in the original products only.

Swanmay - One good white version and one nasty black version!

The Wild Hunt - There are so much things you can do with this creature! It can also be a variant of Firbolg of course!

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OUTSIDERS

Cupid - And maybe also a version that spreads hate instead of love? I would really like a Cupid Angel!

Alicanto - This would make a great Archon! It appears to be a silver/gold bird that changes everything into gold and silver with its touch if only temperarly. Its song brings luck.

Encantado - The pink river dolphin, would be great as Archon as well.

Cherufe - These famous creatures appear in many series/cartoons. They have one thing in common, they always live inside active volcanoes.
It can also be a living volcano that demands sacrifices from nearby villages and which animates its own lava into servant-like forms to negotiate with the villages.

Asag - This would make a very cool surinam-toad like creature, a rock demon that spawns smaller rocklings from its back much like that new demon from D&D called a Pod Demon, but much and MUCH cooler than that.

Mahaha - A frost demon with extremly nasty humor and extremly long nails it uses for tickling you to death, victims of the Mahaha end up with a scary frozen smile, like they enjoyed their death.

Makhai - These war-demons from greek mythology should be just like the versions used in Wrath of the Titans! Multi-bodied and armed creatures dancing into battle with their multiple swords, ripping and dancing through enemy lines.

Tiyanak - These Fillipo unborn baby demons crawed out of their still-living mothers stumic after the mother was fooled by a Incubus.

Mirror Devil (Fetch) - These are a vain persons worst nightmare, these devils hunt from their mirror homes, they appear from mirrors and teleport through mirrors, their drawing/picture should be showing a Fetch which appears from a mirror.

Nekomata - These nasty asian cat demons appear as cute little kitties with two tails, every kid wants such as small cute little kitty! Untill their parents find nothing but bones or blood in the morning as the cute little kitty took another more humanoid form to feast on its child-owner.

Kytons - I really would like a kyton that uses its own bones to create weapons. Much like the Mutant Marrow from x-men.

Empusa - The empusa could be a demon or a lamia, or maybe even an insectoid nymph. The name Empusa is just too cool not to use! My preferance goes out to the Empusa from God of War (the latest part) which is just incredibly awesome and it would even beat Alraune from the throne as my favorite monster of pathfinder, I would hate a Empusa that looks like just-another-succubus tho, do something original with it!

Phane - Not much creatures controll time as cool as these D&D shadow centaurs! Of all creatures left to paizonize from D&D, this one is my favorite!

Protean - I would like to see more bizarre versions of the proteans, one that controlls magetic powers and one that controlls gravity powers, so I can saw bye bye to the D&D Metalmaster and Gravorg.

Ravid - My second favorite D&D creature that isn't paizonized! I wish that paizo changes the appearance tho, and make it a much higer CR creature that can only animate 5 objects at one time.

Cadejo - While they appear to be two seperate and different dog species, these are actually one creature with only one mind. Its the Ying/Yang creature, one black evil dog made from pure shadow and hate and one good white dog made of pure light, for every kill the Shadow Dog body makes the White Light Body heals and saves a soul.

Graeae - These three otherworldy hags are always born as trio, they share bodyparts and eyes among them and are legendary oracles if you pay the right price (which is mostly one of your own bodyparts or your best friend)

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OOZE

Blood Ooze - I'm happy to see that there will be a blood golem, but a blood ooze would be sweet as well! An ooze that becomes bigger if it drains your blood is just freaky and disgusting!

Mercury Creature - Anything made of mercury would be sweet, an ooze, golem or Giant.

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DRAGON

Pyrausta - Half insect, half dragon these could be a new group of drakes. One being half drake half mantis, and one being half moth half drake ect.

Sirrush - These dragon dogs/wolves hunt other dragons for food and sport, this makes them very wanted by dragon-haters.
Sirrush can merge together (with 3 sirrush at maximum) to form the much more powerfull 3 headed version.

Echidna - Now I know James Jacob loves the Echidna there is no doubt she will turn out somewhere in the future! But she's still on my wishlist!

Kampe - Also can be named as Python or Vouvire are looking like Purple/Pinkish eyeless wyvern-like dragons which tail ends in the upper body of a very beautiful pink/purple haired woman/nymph, they use this tail to lure victims closer, both heads have brains.

Gaasyendietha - A destroyer of worlds, in the form of a meteor this space dragon travels from planet to planet with its Rarog armies and rid them of all life untill the entire planet is a lifeless globe.

Aitvaras - A very strange dragon which appears as a dragon outside, but inside houses and temples and even in caves these cursed creatures turn into fiery roosters, they need moonlight or sunlight to become dragon again.

Ladon - What appears to be a giant tree/vine or plant is actually a guardian dragon named Ladon, protecting nature against everything (good and bad) these vengefull dragons are also known as Dryad Dragons.

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CONSTRUCT

Spiderweb Golem - Cool as guardians for Drow, Drider, Ettercap and Jorogumo's.

Treasure Golem - Would be a nasty suprise for any thief!

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HUMANOIDS & MONSTROUS HUMANOIDS

Fomorian - I hope they end up better than the D&D versions.

Kallikantzaros - While goblin-like creatures in greek tradition, their name actually means beautiful centaur, which gave me the idea to turn this creature into a half goblin, half gecko creature, much like a goblin/gecko centaur.

Tikbalang - Nasty horse-versions of the Minotaur with very odd abilities and behavior.

Antaeus or Earth Troll - One of the more powerful versions of the Troll family, these Earth Trolls are actually based on the greek giant Antaeus, a creature that could not be destroyed as long as it touched the earth (his mother gaia) Earth trolls appear as half earth elemental, half trolls.

Kerkopes - These winged monkies are always born as twins, they love to steal stuff and make a sport out of it, while one of the two twins distracts the victim, the other twin steals its stuff.

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MAGICAL BEASTS

Abaia - A very nasty morayeel-like creature that lives in lakes and which becomes much like a god to weaker creatures there.

Afanc - D&D and Tome of Horrors did some very silly things to this half Beaver half Crocodile monster. I would like this creature to stay true to its original form from Welch mythology. The creativity of the beaver merged with the deadliness and agressivity of the crocodile, these creature could be masterworkers and creative masterminds, sabotaging and creating dams made from other creatures bones and plant-creatures remains to block water and food sources so that foolish heroes would come to them to solve the problem.

Ammit - This chimera-like creature is part crocodile, part lion and part hippopotamus, they eat the souls from the dead and are often pets for powerful undead.

Arrowhawk - Another cool creature left from D&D, really wanna see these in one of the future bestiaries!

Namazu - Giant asian catfish creatures that create earthquakes, they should be large or huge, I wouldn't like a Namazu that is gargantuan or colossal.

Cipactli - Humanoid-like crocodiles monsters from aztek mythology, they have mouths on their arms and legs.

Dobhar-Chu - Feral Otter monsters from Scottish or Irish mythology.

Kumiho - The nine-tailed fox, I really hate Kitsune as it can take humanoid form, so I want a creature that is just Nine-tailed Fox and not able to transform into humanoid kitsune form, the name Kumiho can be used for such a creature.

Teumessian Fox - A fox that can't be caught, well in pathfinder it should be able to get caught but give the creature very powerfull evasive abilities, and great speed.

Chesire Cat - The famous cat-critter from alice in wonderland would complete the Alice-in-Wonderland creature collection!

Ichneumon - Very small but high CR creatures are one of my favorites, I really like Demilich and Aurumvorax for this reason, but there are very little of them, this dragon killer would be a great addition to those small-but-high-CR creatures. They lay their eggs inside dragons so that the dragon is eaten from the inside out, much like the Spider Eater vs Tarantula story.

Lavellan - Forget EVERY poisonous creature you ever faced, nothing is more poisonous than the rat-like Lavellan, it can kill everything it touches and it is adviced to kill it with magic or ranged attacks.

Echeneis - Strange Remora fish creatures that have magnetic powers over wood and steel alike, they stop boats and ships with these powers so that their sahuagin masters can easily rob them.

Sianach - The stag that hunts men. A giant monstrous elk/megaloceros monster that feeds on men, a good ally and mount for hags of all types.

Blue Tiger - While this indigo tigers luck and fortune abilities may sound like its a good and kind creature, the Blue Tiger is very arrogant and just as likely eats humans as it would eat a deer.

Tsemaus - I would like this sharp-dorsail-finned fish to be desert-based, much like a sand shark.

Symplegades - Twin rock monsters (maybe elemental is a better group for them) that crush and smash everything between the two of them, two of these can destroy entire villages in hours.

Ugjuknarpak - Inuit mouse monsters that hide under objects (like turned boats) in the water and pierce curious prey with their tail. I'm sure paizo can produce such an awesome artwork for this creature!

Karkadann - Unlike the white and kind unicorn, the neutral Karkadann or Brown Desert Unicorn is a very agressive creature, it has to be as it faces Behirs and Giant Ant Lions everyday.

Shadhavar - While Karkadanns are neutral unicorns and white unicorns are good unicorns, these black magical unicorns (also known as Eclipse Unicorn) use illusion magic and strange hypnotic sounds to kill their prey, as they are also carnivorous.

Sickle Weasel - My all time favorite missing monster... These asian weasel monsters are also known as Kamaitachi. They are so fast it appears there are multiple of them, they are also small but high CR creatures. Sickle Weasels are twice as fast as Quicklings and are the fastest creatures of all, even Shantak don't stand a chance.

Yale - Strange antilope-based creatures with horns they can control and grow into any form they desire. They feed on plant monsters such as Shambling Mounds and Dryads.

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Yora wrote:
Pendin Fust wrote:
The Oinodaemon.
I would assume that the Oinodaemon is actually a setting specific character like Graz'zt or Zuggtmoy. I don't think there are any ways to publish it outside of a licensed Planescape product.

He's in the Tome of Horrors.

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Earlier I made a request for stoopid numbers of templates...I'm wondering - is Ian of Silverthorne Games still around? One of the first PDFs I ever bought was the Book of Templates...I wonder if that could be updated for Pathfinder? I still use it...


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One thing I'll wuish for though is for them to NEVER imitate the 4th and 5th Monster Manuals for WotC. Here's what they've done:
- Reduced the number of monsters significantly... although if they go from 300 to 250, but have an additional section for new rules and stuff, that could pass.
- Spreaded monster entries to 2, 3 or even 4 pages... for a single monster, not to be confused with the highest-level monster from a specific Outsider type, which takes 2 pages.
- Revisited past monsters, usually playable races, with pre-made stat blocks and lair maps.
- Lack of creativity... especially the Spawn of Tiamat

So yeah, before asdking for more monsters, I just hoep that they won't change the format. The Bestiaries have been compact, well-organised and sorted. I don't see any problems with them. If extra pages would be needed to complete a monster's description, Paizo usually releases a booklet for that.

You wrote 100% what I was thinking... especially with especially the Spawn of Tiamat! Yuck!

I think the decreased monster count in bestiary 4 (from 300 to 250) is up to the demon lords & co which probably take up 3 pages instead of 2?

Just a wild guess tho.


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A big problem with MM4 and MM5 were the large numbers of variant ghouls, variant demon-dogs, variant drakes, and ape-brute demons. It feels like these concept account for two thirds of all the monsters. And many 3rd party monster books are just as bad.

Compared to that, the Divs and Kami offer much more new things to the game that are not just the eighth remakes of something that was bland the first time.


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I would like all the Lovecraftian monsters from APs that didn't make it into the Bestiary 4 would be in this one.

Less mythic stuff besides more Kaiju.

No demon lords

A lot less two page monsters so we can get more monsters per page count.

No need for introductory info on the 5 new dragons.


I don't mind the big monsters getting two pages, I just don't like 3 page monsters, and I think lords and gods can't be described in just 2 pages.


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Evil Midnight Lurker wrote:
atheral wrote:
Snallygaster
Check the bestiary articles in Kingmaker. ^.^

Hmm..don't have a copy of Kingmaker sadly but I can swipe a friend's copy to read this. Thanks for the tip.


Imma dot this early so I can keep up with it.


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I'm gonna throw in a request for the 4 Elemental Lords.

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atheral wrote:
Evil Midnight Lurker wrote:
atheral wrote:
Snallygaster
Check the bestiary articles in Kingmaker. ^.^
Hmm..don't have a copy of Kingmaker sadly but I can swipe a friend's copy to read this. Thanks for the tip.

Actually, the snallygaster was in the bestiary of Pathfinder #61.


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Adam Daigle wrote:
atheral wrote:
Evil Midnight Lurker wrote:
atheral wrote:
Snallygaster
Check the bestiary articles in Kingmaker. ^.^
Hmm..don't have a copy of Kingmaker sadly but I can swipe a friend's copy to read this. Thanks for the tip.
Actually, the snallygaster was in the bestiary of Pathfinder #61.

In that case I can't believe I missed it and the Wolpertinger as well.

How about the Tailypo aka Tailypoo or BoneyTail? Is that little nightmare hidden somewhere obvious that I overlooked?


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Also I'm loving how many things I'm seeing on here that are already in... ;)

Ow I do hope you talk about Nekomata here. It would be a letdown if that is about Colossal Pegasusses... Lol

I guess you are talking about Snallygaster tho, the most obvious choice.


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Sincubus did the board eat a post or did you just edit it? I went to look up what a Bauk was then the post I read it in disappeared.

Regardless, I can see how they could be similar creatures or even Tailypo being a unique Bauk. Having been terrified by the Tailypo story as a kid I hope it does show up in some form.


Instead of an edit I deleted it by accident... sorry.

Yes the Tailypo being a unique variant of Bauk would be sweet!

I said something like: The Tailypo (Being a freaky child bedtime story) suits really well in Bestiary 4 which has creatures like Grendel, Nosferatu and Bodysnatchers in it, all from books and movies!

I was obsessed by the Tailypo a couple of months ago and wished for it multiple times in the Bestiary 4 wish topic so there is a chance it may be in the Bestiary 4! I really hope so as Tailypo would be both scary, nostalgic and in for some awesome scenario's and stories!


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I was going to write a book about5 them but I'm too tired and depressed so I'll suggest them here:

Monstrous versions of the Cambrian biota! There are plenty of bizarre creatures there, and if you giant-size them they can be great monsters. I was writing them as aberrations, but some could be vermin or animals if you want to keep real-life creatures to those categories.

Also, another step above 'dire' for animals! Paragon animals as statted creatures rather than a template (or in addition to), maybe? I dunno. Something powerful that's still in the animal category so that druids don't have to resort to dinosaurs as their favourite animals once they become high level. And so rangers with favoured enemy animal don't feel like sad pandas when animals are no longer found as adversaries.

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