I swear a bunch of those, like Migas, Bukavac, and Satori, were on that list, but I guess not. Some of them definitely are, under different names. (Tartaro is Tartalo and Lou Carcolh is just Carcolh.) Trenti and Yanagi Baba I hadn't heard of. And then there's the Bonnacon, which I'm not very fond of. Just seems like a joke creature to me.
Bonnacon is a joke monster but so are some other creatures that got into past bestiaries;)
Gaki and Preta are different to me, especially if you played any of the Shin Megami Tensei games.
I swear a bunch of those, like Migas, Bukavac, and Satori, were on that list, but I guess not. Some of them definitely are, under different names. (Tartaro is Tartalo and Lou Carcolh is just Carcolh.) Trenti and Yanagi Baba I hadn't heard of. And then there's the Bonnacon, which I'm not very fond of. Just seems like a joke creature to me.
Well at least I hope the following creatures aren't a joke to you, these are all pretty obscure and rare in mythology, they have nothing like them, unlike that creature (Ghoul/Invisibility/Wind user) I meantioned on the other page which is just 10 creatures into one. (Pishachas)
A Bao A Qu / Acheri / Albastor / Alicanto / Amhuluk / Asipatra / Bakunawa / Baldanders / Banaspati / Chan / Fiura / Flagae / Hinqumemen or Engulfer / Ittan-Momen / Katsura-Otoko / Knucker (not knocker) / Kumiho / Namazu / Nguruvilu / Nurikabe /
Tera-Tsutsuki / Tiyanak / Wizard's Shackle / Ya-Te-Veo / Zhenniao
BTW: The Aurumvorax isnt from mythology, its from D&D, some people confused it for a real myth, probably because of the similar Alicanto.
The way I see Bonnacon is as a fire bovine creature (water buffalo probably) that could serve Efreeti in pahtfinder like a cow serves a human. The poop-thing is not needed. I like the name Bonnacon more than Cretan Bull or Hadhayosh, which are other fire bovines, Aatxe is more like a undead, spiritual bull creature that happens to be red, but doesn't really have much to do with fire.
On the wikipage the Preta and Gaki are just the same greedy-demons that have different names in Chinese (Preta) and Japanese (Gaki) mythology.
But I don't like the Gaki in bestiary 4, so I don't mind a Preta that looks very different, maybe that of a poltergeist-like creature that posesses it's own treasure, turning it into a serpent made of gems, gold, coins and other treausures. But I guess a Treasure Golem could do for that too.
Pathfinder seems to use the Gaki as a Gluttony creature, I rather see it as a GREED creature with treasures, not food. Gulon, Kaw Kaw and some others are more suiting for Gluttony in my opinion.
Also I failed to introduce the Albastor from Russian folklore properly.
I love everything about this creature, except it's ability to take any animal form it desires, that should be cut, i'm not really fond of almost all creatures that can shapeshift into any form they desire, I don't want Jean Greys and Professor X's running around the Bestiary 5, give me Pyro's , Magneto's and Cyclops anyday (just normal monsters with one or two special powers that aren't chaotic in what they can do and hard to understand.)
Albastor is a giant that kills its victims by lust, it turns them so lustfull that they exhaust themselves from sexual desire or the actual act. For Pathfinder I think it would be better to shrink this down a bit to just lust, and they are minions for the Runelord of Lust.
They appear as pretty giants with long, black flowing (even without wind) hair while their skin is much like perfect, white marble, they are naked but like doppelgangers they don't have any sexual organs in their natural forms.
Like succubi however they can take the form of human(oid) males or/and females so they can have sexual intercorse.
Their coolest feature however is the fact that like the Gaasyendietha Dragon from NA myths the Albastor travels the sky in the form of a small fallen star, with beautiful pink colors.
Hey all,
Hope you all had a good holiday. I am back now and will be giving you an updated sheet at the end of next week. :)
In the meantime, Wayfinder 14 - is going to be monster themed issue, so I though I would ask the regulars here...
Out of all the monsters that have been requested thus far, do you have a best / most desired 2 or 3?
I might as well have a stab at designing the most desired creatures, so let me know which are the ones you are really dying to see the most.
More Asuras
They haven´t gotten much attention until now, and I love the concept of them being the mistakes of the gods
While I understand, that some people think there are too many demons (not me, I´ll gladly buy any book that features new demons), but two demons should get an entry
1.Gharros
Cool demon in D&D, and was already mentioned in Descend into Midnight
2. Alu-Demon
They appeared in RotRL, inhabitade the Midnight Islands in large numbers, one was even the BBEG in Curse of Lady´s Light, and they are still in Tome of Horrors.
WHEN WILL THE GET THEIR BESTIARY ARTICLE?
Hey all,
Hope you all had a good holiday. I am back now and will be giving you an updated sheet at the end of next week. :)
In the meantime, Wayfinder 14 - is going to be monster themed issue, so I though I would ask the regulars here...
Out of all the monsters that have been requested thus far, do you have a best / most desired 2 or 3?
I might as well have a stab at designing the most desired creatures, so let me know which are the ones you are really dying to see the most.
What about the winning nightshade, the Nightbloom?
I really hope Wayfinder isn't using any monsters from mythology though, don't want another Kikimora, Jack-in-Irons and Rarog walking around...
Aren't Alu Demons much like Cambions and Tieflings? Can be wrong...
I'm pretty sure that this has already been suggested, but... how about a mob, squadron, megaswarm (Tome of Horrors 4 terms) or whatever-you-call-a-large-group-of-Small-or-larger-creatures template?
You know the idea that 20th-level characters can wipe out entire armies on their own? Yeah... that's a little... problematic...
Throwing at them giant "swarms" of soldiers that chip away of their HPs isn't gonna pleas ethem and MIGHT reconsider going Leeroy Jenkins on them all of a sudden.
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ZlatorogThe Zlatorog or Goldhorn is A Chamois/ibex like creature that lives on high mountains and which has golden horns and its blood will bloom beautiful red flowers which are known for their powerful healing properties.
A cool evil version would of course spawn black flowers which cause poison or death. Maybe Obsidianhorn or Onyxhorn can be the evil variant.
This could even be the same creature, with the horns changing color by season, or due to environment, or by gender, or perhaps even determined by the creature at the time of injury (choosing to 'bleed red' to create healing flowers or 'bleed black' to create poison flowers, depending on the situation).
Variations using other animals could include a magical beast that appears to be a large intelligent cobra with an ankh on its hood, and whose venom can be milked to function as a cure wounds or lesser restoration potion, if it is willing, or functions as a deadly poison that also carries disease, if it doesn't perform this service willingly...
Planar Dragons- Holy(NG), Dark(NE), Chaos(CN), Axiom(LN), and Eternal(N)
Gem Dragons- Diamond, Ruby, Emerald, Sapphire, and Pearl.
Psychic Dragons- Astral, Chakra, Dream, Esper, and Spirit.
Planar dragons based on morality / ethos sound awesome! 'Imma summon a dragon made of elemental good!'
I'm not a fan of pearl being included as a 'gem,' since it's pretty much shiny oyster phlegm. (Then again, organism-derived substances, like Amber, Ivory and Pearl, perhaps even Silk and Venom, could make an interesting basis for a similar grouping...) Perhaps Topaz, instead?
There's also the five elements of Chinese (earth, fire, metal, water, wood) or Japanese (air, earth, fire, water, void) to consider. Instead of dragons that breathe fire or water or wind, one could be actually *made* of fire, water or wind, more elemental in nature than corporeal.
Aren't Alu Demons much like Cambions and Tieflings? Can be wrong...
Alu Demons and Cambions are pretty much Half Fiends (Succubi/Incubi) with Racial Hit Dices.
That's why Alu-Demons won't come to bestiaries, Cambions area already there.
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That's why Alu-Demons won't come to bestiaries, Cambions area already there.
They are as different (if not more) than Succubi and Incubi in the Bestiaries...
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That's why Alu-Demons won't come to bestiaries, Cambions area already there.They are as different (if not more) than Succubi and Incubi in the Bestiaries...
The actual reason is that, for our purposes, the ones that we've used from Tome of Horrors work just fine for the times we need to use them to tell our stories. Until that changes, you likely won't see them in one of our Bestiaries.
The Primal Dragons already have the 5 elements covered, Cloud(air), Brine(water), Crystal(earth), Magma(fire), and Umbral(void).
Though dragons themed on materials like metal, wood, bone, stone, and shell would be interesting.
Am I the only person who thinks adding new dragons each book only cheapens the special-ness of the ones we have?
Am I the only person who thinks adding new dragons each book only cheapens the special-ness of the ones we have?
Not really, I always found the D&D dragons boring, so they don't cheapen for me.
THe bestiary 2 dragons on the other hand are awesome and cool looking and each of them looks very different and I love the elements, they don't cheapen.
The Dragons from Bestiary 3... well I never liked the Chinese Dragons, but the Forest Dragon looks really awesome and the Sky Dragon could be the dragon from the neverending story, so I like that one too, the others, not so much, but they don't really cheapen as they really look different than the others. (While they all kinda look the same with different colors and abilities.)
The Dragons from bestiary 4, were OK, but I only liked the Solar and Lunar, and I didn't really liked the thing that they all looked the same with different colors.
I hope the dragons in Bestiary 5 (And believe me, they never leave them out) are very different looking from eachother.
I won't have sleepless nights over a Bestiary 5 that doesn't have the 5 dragons in it, but i'm sure they will be there, and when they will be there I hope they are awesome and special!
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Since we have a large size player race, I would like to see one tiny size one, preferable fey.
Am I the only person who thinks adding new dragons each book only cheapens the special-ness of the ones we have?
Sort of. I don't really think we need a new set of 5 true dragons for every bestiary. Would like to see some sort of "set of 5" dragons reflecting New World horned serpent legends, for Arcadia.
So did anyone come up with a build for the Wheelers from Return to Oz? If so, I'd love to know where it ended up.
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It would be nice to get some creatures from the Oz book series.
Did I miss something? What's the large size official player race? I can't think of anything not third party, or just powerful build...
Since we have a large size player race, I would like to see one tiny size one, preferable fey.
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Wish: A small 0hd race that doesn't have a penality to either STR or CHA (or both).
Did I miss something? What's the large size official player race? I can't think of anything not third party, or just powerful build...
That would be the Trox, which is the only canonical large sized playable race from Paizo (I think its playable, its given as an example in the APG, and its the only large sized creature without any racial hit die).
Its in the APG (In the back as a sample race, not really fleshed out), but gets more of an entry in Bestiary 4.
Yeah, the Trox .
Official as 'from Paizo' not as 'PFS friendly'.
Mostly templates? There is an entire book with templates out there...
I would love some ammonites.
I would really love to see some templates such as aberrant, half-elemental/elemental infused, half protean/chaos infused, radiant creature, cursed creature, monstrous, ghost animal, and more.
We could use some more megafauna since we didn't get any last time.
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I hope one of them is Procoptodon, the giant carnivorous kangaroo.
You gonna love those as mount.
Procoptodon is an herbivore. You're thinking of Ekaltadeta, which was significantly smaller. But did have saber teeth.
More Cthulhuesque creatures and old ones!
Yes! I have reached the top of Page 50 of this thread. Catching up again :P
Updated sheet of all requests is here.
Current request count has risen to 2,947!
That should keep the Paizo beastie designers employed for a decade or two! ;)
Jotuns, formatted like devils or dragons, they'd be native outsider kinda like the anti-kami. That or they would be fey with the cold subtype.
Anti-Kami would be Oni;)
I have only seen Jackelweres though maybe one day we will get Wolfweres.
So Adam how many Megafauna would that be?
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I'd like a new race of Celestials. One that looks completely and utterly monstrous, feral and demonic. Good, but not having that reflected in their appearance. You don't have to pretty to be a good guy, right? Maybe, since their not heroic looking, not have them focus on assisting mortals on the material plane, but instead serve as shock troops for battles taking place in the own realms of the fiends, designed to be living, anti-fiend weapons, with battlefield prowess rather than acquiring mortal worshippers as their purpose. Also, we need Agathions based off of non-appealing animals, and a redeemed fiend template.
Megafauna? I listed over 90 myself. Not sure about anyone else's suggestions though.
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I'd like a new race of Celestials. One that looks completely and utterly monstrous, feral and demonic. Good, but not having that reflected in their appearance. You don't have to pretty to be a good guy, right? Maybe, since their not heroic looking, not have them focus on assisting mortals on the material plane, but instead serve as shock troops for battles taking place in the own realms of the fiends, designed to be living, anti-fiend weapons, with battlefield prowess rather than acquiring mortal worshippers as their purpose. Also, we need Agathions based off of non-appealing animals, and a redeemed fiend template.
Considering the ammount of good looking fiends (mainly females), that could be an idea.
Agree with the Agathions thing.
Redeemed Fiend template, Fallen Celestial template, Half-(X) templates for Lawful and Chaotic creatures.
I would like a group of celestials that are alien/strange in appearance, kind of like good versions of Lovecraftian horrors.
Even though they are not megafauna, I would like to get stats for those tiny prehistoric horses.
I'm really hoping we get some mythological/folklore/cryptid monsters in the Giantslayer AP and a full-of-them Bestiary 5... As 6 months without ANY mythological monsters is harsh.
Its time we get Bestiary 5 this year and not some replacer.
People stopped talking, that is a bad sign...