Come to think of it, the Argopelter looks like Demogorgon without the extra head. I love the Argopelter. We just need it, the Cactus Cat, the Glawackus and the Gowrow. Maybe the Hidebehind if it's done interestingly. Then I think we've got all the good Fearsome Critters. I'd like the Drop Bear too, but that's unlikely to happen.
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Cherufe- Lava dwelling lizard-beastie
Tsuchinoko- Cryptid snakelike being
Minhocão- Giant worm-like creature, however may be an amphibian
Olitiau- evil cave dwelling giant bat-thing that has too many teeth
Ahool- Another bat thing
Nachzehrer- undead ghoul/vampire critter that likes to eat its own kin
Ichneumon- a super mongoose that likes to hunt and kill dragons by eating them from the inside out
Ashiarai Yashiki- giant creature with dirty feet, and a habit of making humans clean those feat
Sihuanaba- a beautiful horse headed woman
Shrime- creature with no face on its head, and a single eye in its anus it likes to moon people with
Tofu Kozu- A giant baby that has a block of tofu that it offers to travelers, said tofu is deadly
Encantado- dolphin that turns into a humaniod, goes to parties and gets generally drunk off their ass then knocks up some lady
An undead creature based of of bog bodies. Maybe call it a Bog Mummy or something.
Shrime and Tofu Kozu? Are we really reaching the bottom of the barrel in terms of Yokai already? The rest of those would be cool though.
Somebody has joined the bizarre-cryptid/mytho-beasts club, welcome Mystic_snowfang :-p
Sihuanaba- a beautiful horse headed woman
A paradox creature? how can a women be beautiful with a horse head? lol haha
Cactus Cat: I would kill for that thing, but not a cat, a puma/panther made from cactus-material would be cool, a cactus monster with animal form so it would be a plant not a animal.
Maybe merge in the Splinter Cat and Sliver Cat to create the ultimate lynx/puma/panther horror made from cactus.
And yes I didn't see the thing with Argopelter/Demogorgon before but you are right, giving it the same arms as Demogorgon would be awesome! Thanks for the idea.
I'm not sure I would like the Cherufe to be a lizard-creature... we already have the Magma Dragon so I would rather see the Cherufe as living lava horror thing maybe with some minor lizard-features in the structure. Damn I really hate those Bestiary 2 Elementals they spoil all other creatures...
THe Mud Elemental makes the Mudlord less special
The Lightning Elemental makes the Raiju less special
The Magma Elemental makes the Cherufe less special
The Ice Elemental makes the Ice Golem less special.
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Somebody has joined the bizarre-cryptid/mytho-beasts club, welcome Mystic_snowfang :-p
Cryptids are fun in pathfinder, so are literary beasties
like the Dobhar-chú, it's like a hairy crocodiles that lives in Ireland
a Nandi bear would be cool too
oh and a species of corc that's evolved to live in the sewers
The Nandi Bear is already in pathfinder (in a AP called Chemosit)
I only know the Dobhar-Chu as Otter-Monster with oversized jaws, but maybe it got too many crocodile genes and so gained teh oversized maw.
I would love to see a Afanc variant (beaver/crocodile) as the Sewer Alligator.
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Another fun idea, an original beastie.
Bower Dragon, like a bower bird, but a dragon. Collects a hoard so that it can impress a potential mate. And becomes VERY unhappy when adventurers think "oh free gemstones!"
Also porcelain golem. Often made to look like either those creepy porcelain dolls, or sculptures that one sees when visiting their grannie
I would love some more plant creatures that look like animals such as thorny, cactus cat, timber wolves(made of timber), fish made of kelp, etc.
Anyone remember wich creatures in the B4 were actually Cryptids?
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In b4
Brethedans were atmosphoric beasts
Haniver- based off of manipluated stingray bodies
Ningyo- One of those monkey/fish mummies passed off a mermaids by conemn
Rat Kings- An older one, but also one found with physical proof from when times were nastier
Snallygaster- somewhere between a cryptid and a ferocious beast
Spring Heeled Jack- *just pokes name*
The only things left from the ARG that isn't in a hardcover bestiary are the Gillmen and the Strix.They were added in the Advance Race Guide though, even if they were introduced in the Inner Sea World Guide... and hinted as exclusive content.
there's also some other races in the back, particularly Wyverians. These big armored bug-dudes, and half-plant fae.
And I think Spring-heeled Jack appeared in an AP bestiary. I wanna say Carrion Crown, but I'm not sure.
All those new races that were in the back of ARG were reprinted in the B4.
Extremely cool and new Myth-Monster discovered inside Giants, Monsters & Dragons Book from Carol Rose.
Amhuluk
In the beliefs and folklore of the Native American People living in the state of Oregon, the Amhuluk are lake monsters known by the name of the enchanted waters in which they live. These supernatural serpents undergo many metamorphoses, each more formidable than the last. The waters of Amhuluk can also transform into monsters any other creatures that fall into them.
I wouldn't like another lake-serpent creature as Abaia becomes less memorable then. But I really like the idea of a monster with corruptive powers, leaking strange magic into the lakes it makes its home, every creature that stays too long in the waters become monsters much like the Skum and slaves to the Amhuluk, very powerful creatures that bath, fall or do anything else in the Amhuluk's lake will become new Amhuluk's themselves, IF the original Amhuluk from the lake doesn't kill it first because it hates competition.
The magical aura/waters the Amhuluk creates are so powerful they even corrupt the creatures own body, turning it more mutant and horrible every year or so, become more powerfull each year, Ancient Amhuluks are extremely powerfull and horrid looking.
Awesome creature, even Dragon78 should see that.
Or did I finally found the roots for the Aboleth from D&D? So lovecraft has nothing to do with the Aboleth, but the Amhuluk does?
Also found a victim of the Amhuluk in the same book:
Antukai
In the beliefs and folklore of the Native American people living in the state of Oregon, in the United States, this is a monstrous creature resembling an otter. It was originally a grizzly bear, but because it roamed by the wells inhabited by the lake serpent Amhuluk, it was lured into the water and transformed into the monstrous otter.
I read an essay a bit back about the origin of the Aboleth. Can't remember the details but it had nothing to do with Native American Mythology.
Well its transforming slime-ability does sound a lot like the waters of the Amhuluk. Only because it has tentacles doesn't say its from lovecraft...
Also found two new Div's in the book.
A Minotaur-Div and a Dragon-Div.
The Minotaur-Div could be just like the D&D demon/minotaur Goristro, it is called Arzshenk, a huge minotaur lord Div.
The other new Div is actually a very cool Dragon Div, a pearl white dragon called the Asdeev, a dragon of clouds, invisibility and the unseen.
Wow, cool. I love Divs, and those sound very interesting.
The Amhuluk is badass.
I do miss the beholder but not the mindflayer. The Denizens of Leng and Psychodaemons are good substitutes for mindflayers. Though I can't think of any good substitutes for beholders in Pathfinder.
We have much better eye creatuers in pathfinder, Azgenzak, Argus, Hyakume, Isitoq and the Graeae.
If the Tenome (Pale Man from Pan's Labyrinth) would be added to this list the eyeball creature list is finished.
I think the Azgenzak could be better tho, it could be like a flaming beholder-like creature.
Two creatures I really want in the bestiary 5, both vampiric.
1: Pelesit - The vampiric Grasshopper monsters much like the Haakapainzi, the size of a small dog and very bloodlusty, they travel in huge swarms and instead of eating all the grain they drain all creatures from their blood.
2: Polong - This animated blood creatures made from the blood of dangerous criminals are evil, they can only be captured inside a small bottle but can never truly die. Polong are the animated-blood creature I crave for, much better than any Blood Golem or Blood Ooze, these can use their own blood as weapons, replace the blood of evil creatures and take over their bodies, controll the blood inside other bodies and drain blood to regain their own hitpoints. When they are sick of the body they took over they can make the entire body explode into a bloody mess, the flesh and bones function as missiles in such a bloody explosion, they appear as Carnage from Spiderman but made 100% from blood but with the same evil face with huge teeth.
We have much better eye creatuers in pathfinder, Azgenzak, Argus, Hyakume, Isitoq and the Graeae.
If the Tenome (Pale Man from Pan's Labyrinth) would be added to this list the eyeball creature list is finished.
I think the Azgenzak could be better tho, it could be like a flaming beholder-like creature.
The Eye of the Deep, a very beholder-like creature with crab claws, is open content.
The Eye of the Deep, a very beholder-like creature with crab claws, is open content.We have much better eye creatuers in pathfinder, Azgenzak, Argus, Hyakume, Isitoq and the Graeae.
If the Tenome (Pale Man from Pan's Labyrinth) would be added to this list the eyeball creature list is finished.
I think the Azgenzak could be better tho, it could be like a flaming beholder-like creature.
But JJ will never use it again, he said so somewhere...
Did anybody know the Behir comes from real legends?
In my new book: Spirits, Fairies, Leprechauns and Goblins also from Carol Rose there is this entry:
Behir, Beithir
The name of one of a group of fearsome spirits known as fuaths in the Highland folklore of Scotland.
Their name is associated with lightning and snakes, and when these are seen during the long-light summer nights, one may be sure that the behir are close by. Although they are rearely seen, it is known that these spirits, like the snakes, inhabit the corries and caves of the Highlands, which humans avoid as much as possible.
Awesome! Another D&D creature unpowered, another D&D creature not a original D&D creature, I love that!
I would love to have the Eye of the Deep in a pathfinder hardcover bestiary. Even the name sounds cool plus I like that it has crab claws.
There are eye creatures but I haven't seen a monster with multiple eyes that has eye beam abilities with various spell effects.
Get used to it, it will probably never happen as Pathfinder leaves the D&D ultimate classics alone.
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I do miss the beholder but not the mindflayer. The Denizens of Leng and Psychodaemons are good substitutes for mindflayers. Though I can't think of any good substitutes for beholders in Pathfinder.
I have always seen the Denizens of Leng as more of a substitute for the githyanki than the mind flayer.
Please don't insult the Denizens of Leng that much! I've never seen a more horrid creation than the Gith. :-p
Also to make this post more usefull i've found a new monster in Carol Rose work:
Aipalookvik
This is the name of an evil sea spirit in the folk beliefs of the Inuit of North America. Aipalookvik is a particulary terrifying spirit bent on destruction, especially attacking and biting those fishing the sea.
Sounds like a very agressive and evil water elemental. I would like evil versions of all the elementals!
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I'd be for more good creatures, but I don't want all of them to look particularly noble. Most good creatures are really beautiful and heroic looking, but I'd like to see some that are more primal, savage, alien, or even demonic looking. More good Magical Beasts (Less kitties and puppies, more Smilodon and Amphicyon), Monstrous Humanoids (Emphasis on the Monstrous), and Aberrations. Also Agathions based on more "unsavory" animals, i.e. lizards, snakes, bats, pirahnas, spiders, insects, hyenas, etc. And add a race of Celestials that just looks completely and totally monstrous. Including some Empyreal Lords of that race. I'd also like to see a template that allows for good versions of fiends, a Redeemed Fiend template or something. I could create entire campaigns based around a template like that.
First of all the Gith were amazing don't insult them by comparing them to the denizens of leng, secondly evil elementals although they would be cool I want more good creatures in the bestiaries we have too much evil.
There can't be too much evil, with too much good the world would be boring to the extreme. I'm glad bestiary 4 had so little good creatures, and the only good-creatures I really want to see covered in bestiary 5 are the Blue Tiger, Airavana the white elephant, Akselloak the good stone-based creature much like Galeb Duhr, Alan a good-based male Harpy, Anansi a good-spider creature, Blue Caps being good Redcaps that slaughter evil creatures and who lock their souls in their blue caps, Caladrius a bird creature that can cure any disease, Fir Bolg, Encantado, Cat Sidhe a puss-in-boots like creature that steals from the rich to give to the poor, Kuebiko a good-natured scarecrow that protects temples and other such holy places from demons and undead, Laelaps ultimate hunting dogs that hunt evil with perfect accurency, Otso a bear spirit or Agathion, Sirrush noble dragon-hounds that hunt evil dragons, Wulver a good-natured werewolf, a Guardian Angel, and Cupid/Eros/Erotes Angel. The Inuit Agloolik would be also on the good list but I want a evil variant that pretends to be good so that people will eat the food it catches for them so they grow into fat cattle for the Agloolik and easy fat prey.
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I also want to see a Groundhog -hogs ground(can create a pit anywhere within aura)
- earth elemental
I also want a Woodchuck-argopelter's little steroid pumped brother
-hurls tree trunks at enemies
-wields large branches as clubs
I also want the Large Angry Rabbit with Sharp Pointy Teeth from Monty Python
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I also want to see a Groundhog -hogs ground(can create a pit anywhere within aura)
- earth elemental
I also want a Woodchuck-argopelter's little steroid pumped brother
-hurls tree trunks at enemies
-wields large branches as clubs
I also want the Large Angry Rabbit with Sharp Pointy Teeth from Monty Python
yush!
Alien giant mole-like creature that can create a pit like the create pit spell as a supernatural ability. Also it can shot (maybe poisonous)spines from it's body.
I would really like to see the killer(vorpal) rabbit from Monty Python and make it around CR13.
I would also like more good magical beast and other good creatures that are primal or alien looking.
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A good incorporeal undead formed when a child too young to comprehend they're dead dies.
This creature would likely be mischievous, a bit sad, and not really understand that they're not alive anymore. Likely to ask the PCs why they're cold all the time. May to be mistaken for a poltergiest, due to a tendency to throw things, and play pranks. However mostly harmless. I don't think the ghost template would quite cover it.
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A good incorporeal undead formed when a child too young to comprehend they're dead dies.
This creature would likely be mischievous, a bit sad, and not really understand that they're not alive anymore. Likely to ask the PCs why they're cold all the time. May to be mistaken for a poltergiest, due to a tendency to throw things, and play pranks. However mostly harmless. I don't think the ghost template would quite cover it.
Yesh!
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Yesh!A good incorporeal undead formed when a child too young to comprehend they're dead dies.
This creature would likely be mischievous, a bit sad, and not really understand that they're not alive anymore. Likely to ask the PCs why they're cold all the time. May to be mistaken for a poltergiest, due to a tendency to throw things, and play pranks. However mostly harmless. I don't think the ghost template would quite cover it.
Really good for GMs who want to make sensitive players bawl their eyes out.
Little ghost kid says "Where is my mother? Have you seen her? I'm cold... why am I cold?" I a little lost forlorn voice that's on the verge of crying.
When can we expect Paizo to put a beholder or mindflayer in one of the bestiarys?Never, it belongs to WoTC, and therefore can never be in anything that isn't WoTC stuff.
However... we do have intellect devourers
Which makes me wonder why the Final Fantasy games were able to get away with using mindflayers in several games. Granted they can NEVER call them illithid. But it appears they are able to get around the legal issues with no problem. I suppose Paizo could do the same if they wished but do not wish to take the risk and also needlessly piss off WOTC/Hasbro.
But on a related note the Tome of Horrors Complete has the Gorbel and the Eye of The Deep. They are both beholder variants. The eye of the deep especially, the gorbel I'm not so sure of.
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When can we expect Paizo to put a beholder or mindflayer in one of the bestiarys?Never, it belongs to WoTC, and therefore can never be in anything that isn't WoTC stuff.
However... we do have intellect devourers
Which makes me wonder why the Final Fantasy games were able to get away with using mindflayers in several games. Granted they can NEVER call them illithid. But it appears they are able to get around the legal issues with no problem. I suppose Paizo could do the same if they wished but do not wish to take the risk and also needlessly piss off WOTC/Hasbro.
But on a related note the Tome of Horrors Complete has the Gorbel and the Eye of The Deep. They are both beholder variants. The eye of the deep especially, the gorbel I'm not so sure of.
Well the FF one looks more like a squidperson and the WoTC looks more like a octopus person.
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When can we expect Paizo to put a beholder or mindflayer in one of the bestiarys?Never, it belongs to WoTC, and therefore can never be in anything that isn't WoTC stuff.
However... we do have intellect devourers
Which makes me wonder why the Final Fantasy games were able to get away with using mindflayers in several games. Granted they can NEVER call them illithid. But it appears they are able to get around the legal issues with no problem. I suppose Paizo could do the same if they wished but do not wish to take the risk and also needlessly piss off WOTC/Hasbro.
They didn't "get around the legal issues". They're possibly infringing the copyright. However, between Square being a Japanese company under Japanese jurisdiction, being active in an industry that doesn't put them in competition with WotC and several other factors, WotC didn't sue them (yet).
Paizo has used Eye of the Deep once (in Legacy of Fire), but James Jacobs commented afterwards that it was way too close to sidestepping Beholder IP problem for his liking and that EotD won't be reappearing in Pathfinder products.
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I'd like to see a Jackalope, as a familiar.
Oh and the Emela-ntouka, it's somewhat like a rhino, single nose horn, but it lives in swamps, and has a long tail like some sort of dinosaur.
Oh and Gorgonopsids. So badass
Small hairy humanoids (like the Almas). We have a bigfoot, but not all hairy humanoid cryptids are big
Maybe an Okampi, with animal companion possibilities.
Sturgeon and Giant Sturgeons
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A creature that is both a monster and a puzzle to solve.
Some more trap based monsters, both living and construct versions.
More creatures that look like or take the shape of objects and natural or man made environments.
A monster whose weakness is it's own vanity, so if you show it a mirror it will be compelled to look at itself.
More monsters with strange weaknesses such as water, salt, flowers, mithril, obsidian, wood, crystal, pepper, sleep effects, luck based charms, etc.
Some harry humanoids(or monstrous humanoids) that are small or tiny size would be cool.
A small size creature that is CR20+ that doesn't have class levels or is a swarm.
Some more child like monsters that are not fey or evil outsiders.
A very physically strong monster that really looks like a old man.
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Why would one need a Jackalope when you already have Wolpertinger, Skvader and Almiraj?
There qre the Hekatonkheires Titans in Bestiary 3.
Some people want every monster to be playable, so you get a Medusa, Minotaur, Hekatoncheires and Thriae of CR 1 and lower.