Black spot spell overpowered?


Pathfinder First Edition General Discussion


The spell Black Spot is too overpowered i think

"The black spot is a specific and feared pirate curse. An intangible, illusory black spot manifests above the target’s head and remains until the target dies or the curse is lifted. The black spot cannot be covered or hidden by any means, including other illusions. The black spot radiates a cursed aura in a 10-foot radius around its target. Anyone within the aura gains a +2 bonus on weapon attack and damage rolls against the target. In addition, the target has a –4 penalty on saving throws against death effects.

Every day in which a creature bears a black spot, it must make a Fortitude save. On a failed save, the creature takes 1 point of Constitution damage. The damage cannot be healed until the black spot is removed. If the creature’s Constitution reaches 0, it dies. Pirates killed by this spell often return as ghosts, but that is not a direct effect of this spell.

The black spot cannot be dispelled, but it can be removed with break enchantment, limited wish, miracle, remove curse, or wish."

You should just touch a BBEG and then teleport/run away and wait for a few weeks - and he is dead.


In a low magic world it's deadly ... in a normal magic world finding a scroll of remove curse and an adept to cast it shouldn't be that hard.


You also have to (a) punch it through SR; (b) successfully touch the BBEG - often, but not always, easier said than done; and (c) the BBEG has to actually fail the Will saving throw to negate acquiring the curse in the first place.

Scarab Sages

When asking if a spell is overpowered, you have to compare it with other available options.

Another option for a 9th level wizard would be Baleful Polymorph. Which would you rather be hit with?


Tierre wrote:


You should just touch a BBEG and then teleport/run away and wait for a few weeks - and he is dead.

Sometimes, perhaps, but so is the Princess the BBEG kidnapped, and by that time the BBEG will have completed the ritual to grant himself Immortality/Ultimate Power, conquered the Kingdom, resurrected the dreaded Arch-Daemon, and achieved Global Dominance.

A few weeks can often be a very long time to wait to kill a BBEG.

Scarab Sages

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Quantum Steve wrote:
and by that time the BBEG will have completed the ritual to grant himself Immortality/Ultimate Power

One of these days I'm going have a character find a copy of this ritual after killing the BBEG.


Also... as long as the BBEG can take 8 hours of rest per day, the Con damage never has any effect (healed each day).


If anything, it's underpowered. It should be touch OR allow a save; touch range no save would probably better match tales of the black spot.


Majuba wrote:
Also... as long as the BBEG can take 8 hours of rest per day, the Con damage never has any effect (healed each day).

It says in the spell that the damage cannot be healed

Liberty's Edge

Artanthos wrote:
Quantum Steve wrote:
and by that time the BBEG will have completed the ritual to grant himself Immortality/Ultimate Power
One of these days I'm going have a character find a copy of this ritual after killing the BBEG.

AP spoiler:
Play Curse of the crimson throne.

The only problem are the requirements needed to complete the ritual.

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